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Topic 20 of 92: Introductions and Suggestions

Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (15:57) | Marcia (MarciaH)
This conference needs input as to new topic and fields of interest and how to make it more poster-friendly. Please comment!
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 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 1 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (16:00) * 2 lines
This Conference is full of goodies for all sorts of interests. Why is it not attracting more posters? There are plenty of graphics and great maps which update automatically, and photographs for each category when I can find them.
I need your suggestions concerning how to make this place more attractive.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 2 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (19:23) * 1 lines
i like this conference! and the marble background is marbleous!

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 Response 3 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (19:32) * 4 lines
Thank you SO much! I love the background...it sneaked up on me in the dawn of the creation of this Conference - from the hand of the god of the cfadm. I had asked if there were a nice granite...but while he hunted he slipped this one in. I was delighted and told him to rest. He had found a far better background than I could have imagined. And, as a final blesssing, he put the clever title on the conference and the cutest graphic...! Sometimes I just leave it on as my wallpaper and smile remembering t
e 10 hours it took me to get this up and running - with the most patient and benevolent help of the god of the cfadm.

I worked on goodies for this all morning - 2 new topics and lots of graphics posted. I hope they are well received. Perhaps I should gave away samples???

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 4 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (19:38) * 1 lines
dunno what kind of samples you could hand out! if you do too much, folks will avoid you and this isn't a safe conference to throw pieces of granite at passersby!! i noted the new graphics and they're great!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 5 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (19:43) * 1 lines
...I was thinking of coprolites, actually *lol*... Thanks for enjoying the graphics. It is really neat to find just the ones I have been searching for...and by people I actually know (and with whom David worked!)

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 Response 6 of 777: Gi  (patas) * Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (14:22) * 1 lines
Coprolites! LOL! You are in a foul mood!;-)

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 Response 7 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:07) * 1 lines
i'm here but i can't look at the rc file. instead i'm reading the source (from view source)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 8 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:14) * 1 lines
Right - I can send you a photo of rc but do not know how to get you in there in reality...! You have lots to do - it can wait...! Truly!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 9 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:17) * 1 lines
gotta wait on the laundry anyway, marcia!

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 Response 10 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:24) * 1 lines
Diddit - but it is the same - like something was blocking acccess to access. I note that he does not have the url for the geoback listed but it works when I take my define gifs off. Curious!

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 Response 11 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:26) * 1 lines
Changing back by removing my command line...

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 Response 12 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:27) * 1 lines
i ran into the same problem when changing the background in collections. i couldn't mix image sources when i defined the gifs. very weird! TERRY!! HELP!!!

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 Response 13 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 17, 1999 (17:27) * 1 lines
Changing back by removing my command line...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 14 of 777: Gi  (patas) * Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (13:13) * 1 lines
Marcia, don't forget your Forget button...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 15 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (13:26) * 1 lines
Wolfie has to make one when she gets time. Soon, she says. How could I forget? It is like losing a tooth in the front of the mouth when I look at the button bar and see that missing...I shall not forget my forget button.

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 Response 16 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (14:36) * 1 lines
I'm having fun finding my way around the conference. Looks like I can spend some time here browising. Well done!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 17 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (14:57) * 1 lines
Thank you, My Dear. Enjoy and return often. We are a good bunch, and you will certainly recognize more than a few Droolians from time to time. *smile*

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 Response 18 of 777: Gi  (patas) * Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (15:03) * 1 lines
Well, I guess you might recognize me then, Maggie, but I wish I could say the same... Pleased to meet you for the first time then :-)

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 Response 19 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (15:31) * 1 lines
Maggie is playing Hookey from school - she is supposedly on her computer finishing her thesis for an advanced degree at University...but I find her in the most unusual places - like in Travel where she has regaled us with her adventures in Gambia...so far. It makes for exciting reading!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 20 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (15:33) * 1 lines
I guess I misspoke when I mentioned Maggie having come from Drool - she came in through PHinisheD conference. She is a great addition, wherever she arose as is the distinguished Medica from Lisboa. *smile*

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 Response 21 of 777: Gi  (patas) * Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (03:43) * 2 lines
Hey, you don't need to flatter me! ;-)
I read Maggie's posts around Geo and am pleased to meet her :-)

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 Response 22 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (09:26) * 1 lines
Thank you. I feel very welcome.

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 Response 23 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (13:37) * 3 lines
*sigh* I do not flatter you, my dear Gi...I brag about you a bit because you have been an extraordinarily good friend, and I appreciate that more than mere flattery can ever hope to express...*hugs*

Ok, Back to rocky stuff...Dave sent specimen photos which are knockouts. Have to find a good place to put them...*smile*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 24 of 777: Gi  (patas) * Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (14:01) * 1 lines
I see your Forget button is up. Good for you! :-)Not that I intend to use it ;-)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 25 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (19:11) * 1 lines
I have mo idea what happens when one uses it, and I have enough short term memory loss to dare to push it...but does it not look lovely with the complete set up there?! *beaming*

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 Response 26 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Nov  3, 1999 (19:12) * 2 lines
Even more amazing is the fact that I managed to get it up there all by myself!
Bit by bit I am learning...!

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 Response 27 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Fri, Nov  5, 1999 (14:12) * 1 lines
pat pat smile

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 Response 28 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Nov  5, 1999 (15:18) * 1 lines
Purrrrrrr...Purrrrrrrrrr *smile* With a head full of rocks, I need all the help I can muster.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 29 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Nov  8, 1999 (20:17) * 1 lines
so where are those rock specimens? do any look like the one i posted? *grin*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 30 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Nov  8, 1999 (21:07) * 1 lines
um...they are sitting in files in my computer waiting to be made smaller and ftp's to Spring. That is a fun thing I can do this evening...but his favorite specimen shot is labelled "iforgetite"...! Some geologist! Though I am the mineralogist in the family (identity of the stuff) and he is the physical geologist...we make a great pair! None look like the ones you posted. Not even your "mysteryite" boot.

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 Response 31 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 11, 1999 (20:38) * 1 lines
Ok, gang of followers of things Geological and Earthly, I managed to make the frames around my Geo Buttons from Wolfie mostly invisible...but not really like Cfadm managed to do for the Help button. I have spent several hours working at this with zero input, so hurl your invectives if you'd like...I am too tired to fend them off...

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 Response 32 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Dec 11, 1999 (20:42) * 1 lines
are you able to select a transparent color using the photo suite program?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 33 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 11, 1999 (20:51) * 1 lines
No...just just something which matches the background of the program (which also matches here unless you look very closely. That is, if I have that choice, I have not yet found it. Still looking and poking and checking the convoluted Help files. When / if I do find the transparency option, you will the the first to know!

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 Response 34 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 11, 1999 (20:59) * 2 lines
When you do not choose a color and just do cut, you get a black frame which I thought at first meant no frame...until I ftp'd it here and looked at the black frame sitting amidst the white ones... Oddest of all is when I click on the Help button I saved from here (done by Cfadm) with the zero frames, it looks like it has blue frames on my MGI Photo Suite program. So, I tried that, thinking it might be a color-blind deal with the software. Wrong! I ended up with royal blue frames. Oh well, I guess it
ooks ok the way it is until I have some magic help or learn the secret...

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 Response 35 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Dec 11, 1999 (21:00) * 1 lines
hmmm...do let us know.

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 Response 36 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 11, 1999 (21:03) * 1 lines
Indeed! You first. *grin*

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 Response 37 of 777: MarkG  (MarkG) * Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (03:16) * 1 lines
Unless my eyes deceive me, half of the buttons are now perfect, and the other half 99.9% perfect?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 38 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (13:17) * 1 lines
In the top row of this page they are 50% correct; second row none of the red ones are correct. On the public pages most are correct. Thanks for noticing, Mark! I would have been happy with the background-matching frames, but when look at my lovely little conference, I know I have to make it the best I can as soon as this flu I caught clears out. 

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 Response 39 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (16:13) * 1 lines
marcia! take some soup and go to bed. don't worry about the conf buttons until you are well!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 40 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (16:48) * 1 lines
I think I shall. I proofed what I posted to you on 41 concerning your time off and still a mistype got through. Brain on mush and watery eyes is not my best thing... but, before I hit the horiontal again, don't your buttons look great? They are just perfect for here!!! (I'da said cool, but lava that color ain't cool)

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 Response 41 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Dec 18, 1999 (21:55) * 1 lines
i think they're pretty hot myself *grin* hope you're feeling better sweetie!

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 Response 42 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 18, 1999 (22:06) * 3 lines
I am because I am listening to Penn State Lady Lions play Stanford for the NCAA Volleyball Chhampionship from Honolulu. I am listening to the station in State College, Pa, WMAJ which has been there since my Dad was at Penn State! We are up 2 games to none....!

Actually, I feel very dizzy so I think it is settling into my ears sinuses and chest - gonna make me pay for those 3 years of no colds/flu...!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 43 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Dec 19, 1999 (13:21) * 1 lines
eat something spicy and avoid milk. milk actually causes the sinuses to swell and you know what happens when you eat spicy stuff when you don't have a cold so have a huge box of tissue handy!

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 Response 44 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 19, 1999 (13:56) * 1 lines
Thank you for the suggestions. I will try that spicy stuff, but if my nose runs any more than it is at the moment, I will just stuff something absorbant up each side and give up!

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 Response 45 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Dec 19, 1999 (15:56) * 1 lines
*lol*

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 Response 46 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (13:22) * 2 lines

MELE KALIKIMAKA




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 Response 47 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (16:25) * 3 lines
do you realize that only one my 100th viewing of christmas vacation, i finally figured out that that's what they were singing during the pool dream? hahaha! thanks marcia and the tree is just lovely.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!

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 Response 48 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (17:23) * 1 lines
Wolfie, as I was whisking through the channels on TV I went past one of those TV shopping channels and rhey had your ring with 9 (I think) interchangeable spheres (in that red box you scanned for us) in SS for knock-down price of $18.99. Then it was gone. At least I know now where to look for one!

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 Response 49 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (17:26) * 1 lines
Thanks for appreciating the tree. I made sure all the lights worked before I posted it *grin* As to that song containing Mele Kalikimaka...I have heard it ad nauseum this year and every year since I got here. Very popular!!!

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 Response 50 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (21:31) * 1 lines
i'll bet! and i'm glad you got to see that ring in person (well, better pics than what's here)....

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 Response 51 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (21:52) * 1 lines
Next timem O'O said, Buy it!!! So I will =)

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 Response 52 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (12:52) * 1 lines
really????? *woohoo*

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 Response 53 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (13:07) * 1 lines
Yeah...He knows my credit card is healthy! I hop they have it in gold so it does not tarnish quite so easily from the volcano fumes...but I'll take whatever I can get.

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 Response 54 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (13:36) * 1 lines
just don't go into sticker shock with the gold (which is what i'd prefer), silver for $19 is amazing!

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 Response 55 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (13:45) * 1 lines
That was the close-out price in the middle of the night (for the rest of you) on one of those home-tv-shopping channels. I am sure after the new year they will be much more expensive. I'll go for Silver and save for that Alexandrite like you are =)

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 Response 56 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (16:01) * 1 lines
don't blame you.

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 Response 57 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 25, 1999 (16:04) * 1 lines
'course, most of the silver rings they sell now are rhodium plated so food and hand cream do not discolor or tarnish the silver quiet so easily.

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 Response 58 of 777: lidya maccarthy  (livamago) * Sat, Jan 15, 2000 (18:36) * 1 lines
Marcia, I would love to see a photo tour of different archeological sites on the archeology topic, and a little information on them. What say you?

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 Response 59 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jan 16, 2000 (18:19) * 2 lines
Excellent thought, and if you have some send them to me and as soon as I can ftp them to the hard drive at spring I will post them. Otherwise I can post them from their web pages. Might you suggest some or shall you post them yourself?
I love that you are interested in Archaeology and are just what I needed to spur me on to post more in there!

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 Response 60 of 777: lidya maccarthy  (livamago) * Sun, Jan 16, 2000 (20:37) * 1 lines
As you know, my brother has an anthropology degree, and I have always been interested in ancient civilizations, especially Egyptian and Greek, not to mention the Maya and Inca. I will move to the Arch. topic and discuss the possibilities there!

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 Response 61 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 17, 2000 (00:47) * 1 lines
Lidya, you and I need to get lost in the British Museum for an indefinite time. What a luxury to be in there with another willing and interested soul!

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 Response 62 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (19:00) * 1 lines
i was watching a national geographic discovery program the other night about landslides and thought that would be an appropriate topic for this conference. i don't know if it belongs in an existing topic or what!

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 Response 63 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (19:16) * 1 lines
Landslides...Yeah! We have them all the time over here. Landslips they are called in the UK and remnants of Empire, and if they are big enough they are called mass wasting by geoloists. Do you think it would fit in Gaia which covers geological ecology? We did wildfires in there but we need a topic like orogony and disatrophism but on a much smaller scale. Name suggestions? How about Natural Disasters?

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 Response 64 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (19:52) * 1 lines
yeah, that would work!

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 Response 65 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (19:53) * 1 lines
on that show, they mentioned a volcano in hawaii where half of it was missing. amazing how they knew that! i would have thought it blew itself out or something.

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 Response 66 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan 25, 2000 (20:04) * 2 lines
Yup...cinder cones fracture along the line of the fault zone which caused the cone in the first place. A whole lotta shaking going on will make coastal ones plunge into the sea entirely or just the seaward half. Leaves behind a most interesting cross-section of how the cone was built of layers of cinder and spatter which held the cinders together. Some do blow themselves apart. Not much left to see of those. They are usually Phreatic ones which experience steam explosions and it just leaves the jagged
rim of the base of the cone there. Unfortunately, Volcano is a big structure often used interchangeably with volcanic cone. One is a mountain and one is a small-to-large hill. Of course, when a new volcano is building, it begins small...so that is also a possibility!

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 Response 67 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Sat, Feb 12, 2000 (23:26) * 1 lines
OK, if I cannot be designated (don't know how) World Builder where host link is, I shall make do with this...if I can stand it! Not that big on bragging on my own bahalf, actually.

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 Response 68 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Sat, Feb 12, 2000 (23:28) * 1 lines
Better go to bed. My typing is worse than usual.

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 Response 69 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Feb 13, 2000 (17:33) * 1 lines
what do you mean "world builder"?

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 Response 70 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 13, 2000 (17:41) * 1 lines
You did not notice? When the programmer helped me create Geo, instead of host (that hyperlink which gets you into cfconfig and rc), it read You are world builder in this conference.

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 Response 71 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 13, 2000 (17:42) * 1 lines
It still says that in my rc file but apparently what is in there is not available yet, eventhough I have changed the address for some of it to where it is on my new space. Wish I understood more of what I know about this stuff...

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 Response 72 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (11:25) * 1 lines
oh! in paraspring, i'm the (g)host isn't that clever?

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 Response 73 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (13:24) * 1 lines
Indeed. Are you still? And, if you are, did you do it? If so, please tell me how to restore mine. (Mine is still the way it is supposed to be, I think!)

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 Response 74 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (20:24) * 1 lines
no, i can't figure it out :(

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 Response 75 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 14, 2000 (20:46) * 1 lines
Didja notice that I got my big graphic on the title page of Geo again?! But, where it says I am world builder (where you are the clever (g)host - love that!) it is in the block which is now over-ridden by the default settings and I do not think we can change it. I tried, but it comes up the way you see it now anyway. =( ... me too

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 Response 76 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 17, 2000 (13:45) * 1 lines
That little thingy called a "tab" is back between the conference title and the Main Menu on the bottom left of the topic. Merlin is back at it, and everything is getting to be so beautiful again. Happy me! Thank you...*hugs*

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 Response 77 of 777: Ginny  (vibrown) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (11:16) * 9 lines
I guess it's about time I actually introduce myself...

I am a software engineer in the Boston area, and I found this conference when Marcia emailed the conference pointer.

I met Marcia and David a few years back when I was visiting a friend who was living in Hawaii (and dating David) at the time. David and Marcia gave me a wonderful tour of the big island and the volcanos. (I took about 24 rolls of pictures on that trip.) Anything I've learned about geology is from them!

My interests include astronomy/cosmology, archealogy, mythology (especially Greek myths and Arthurian legends), photography and music, as you can probably tell by my other posts around here.

I'm still finding my way around Spring, so I'll probably venture into other conferences, as time permits.

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 Response 78 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (11:34) * 2 lines
See? This lady was a Gods-end to me. How could we possibly have so many interests in common? We irritated more than a few people while she was here, but we loved it! ...and I should have emailed you sooner. Arthurian discussion is http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/read/books/23/new
We need you there. it has been quiet, of late.

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 Response 79 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (11:35) * 1 lines
Oh, E komo mai, Ginny! Where are my manners?!

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 Response 80 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (11:36) * 1 lines
Eeeeek! She was a God-send ....*sigh* Better go eat some breakfast to neutralize all this coffee...!

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 Response 81 of 777: Ginny  (vibrown) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (11:48) * 6 lines
Quite all right...I contribute my share of typo's, as well.

Yes, I think we managed to irritate both Polly and David...but I certainly loved our discussions! :-)

I will check out the Arthurian topic, soon. I must finish my lunch (while you have your breakfast) and get back to work (sigh). Catch you later! 


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 Response 82 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (13:02) * 1 lines
Later! (Happy me *grin*)

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 Response 83 of 777: Gi  (patas) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (17:17) * 1 lines
Marcia, how lovely, an Arthurian topic! Will I ever find the time to go there? 

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 Response 84 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (17:50) * 1 lines
Not with the company you are expecting (she told me she would be seeing you almost immediatley!)...and I am so jealous. I found some interesting Portuguese Petroglyphs. Would you be interested in seeing them in Archaeology(Geo 17)?

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 Response 85 of 777: Gi  (patas) * Wed, Feb 23, 2000 (06:29) * 1 lines
Will visit presently. Wonder if they are the Foz Coa glyphs :-)

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 Response 86 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Feb 26, 2000 (22:27) * 1 lines
Aloha Mike! Please feel free to create a topic when the spirit moves you. I would be delighted to have someone other than me doing so.

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 Response 87 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (15:57) * 1 lines
oh wow, i feel positively inferior in this conference but i love it anyway, esp. geomagnetism!

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 Response 88 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (16:42) * 1 lines
YOU feel inferior??? Move over and make room for me! You go places to learn and to trade information and to share what you know...and ask questions which keeps the converstions going. If no one does that...I am back to posting to myself from books and the internet...Don't feel like that...You are VERY important to Geo's survival! *hugs*

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 Response 89 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 28, 2000 (16:43) * 1 lines
We gotta get some more on ley lines and stone alignments and the otherworld interface going. It fascinates me, as well *grin* I was hoping you wold enjoy it!

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 Response 90 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (00:05) * 1 lines
If you are reading this tonight...just know I miss you... and many other things.

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 Response 91 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:27) * 1 lines
oh, marcia *hugs* sorry i left out of here so abruptly....we got another krewe parade to watch and have been making gumbo all morning. (we all miss you very much)

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 Response 92 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:35) * 3 lines
Let's see...You get all the okra you can find and a mess of shrimp and...or is that another sort of Lousianna edible?! Sounds incredible, though. Keep your T-shirt down because I'm gonna be watching! I'll trade you some mardi gras beads for shell leis!

Feeling better this morning...I just tried and tried to communicate with our friend and could not (that I know of). Sometimes it is very difficult. So I left him online and went to bed feeling very sad. (Yup! We all do - Very Much)

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 Response 93 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:41) * 1 lines
i don't think he put okra in it this time, but chicken and sausage....no t-shirts being lifted for me, too cold, plus i decorated a shirt for the occasion though it didn't work last week. we'll be towards the end of their route this time so hopefully they'll be more generous and want to download their wears! (all this for cheap beads *laugh*) if we were gonna trade, i'd go out and get nicer beads than what they throw!

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 Response 94 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:46) * 3 lines
Hey, we have all sorts of free shell leis here, and like your "glass" (plastic?!) beads, some are lots nicer than others. I'm game if you are!!!

How do you thicken gumbo without okra? (Bummer - no double exposures for Wolfie this year...*grin*)

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 Response 95 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (12:50) * 3 lines
(trust me, any double exposure from me would make them canx the parade!)

plastic beads. this year they were throwing huge (mm) beads and my son got two. tried to get one from him but he was not game! shipping leis from your part of the country would be awfully expensive, wouldn't it, marcia? i've got to see what we get today and let you know!

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 Response 96 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (14:16) * 1 lines
My part of the world is serverd by the United States Postal Service just as yours is. Same rate. I can put them in a proprity envelope and ship the entire mess for under $4 which is a small price for me to pay to get you a little Hawaii. What I need (via email) is your snail-mail address!

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 Response 97 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:02) * 3 lines
marcia, i got six beads (three of which i gave to the little boy standing next to me). a couple of teenie boppers were wearing tight t-shirts and had their stuff out and the one kept fluffing her hair. they weren't even in mardi gras wear, which is what the floaters usually look for, spirit. perhaps not tonight. i will find some good beads and then we'll talk (i'll send you my snail mail but i'll need yours too!)

in a word, BORING! we go out there for the kids and the bigger kids push them out of the way and can jump higher. oh, and i'm standing there minding my own business and some girl runs headlong into me at full speed. hit me on the left side and i had just turned sideways so i know i hurt her more than she me....

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 Response 98 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:09) * 2 lines
So much for party time. Sounds a little too scary for me. It is getting to be like that for the Christmas Parade. Why, when my kid was little...*grin*
Take care out there and I will send you the shells anyway - give the stuff to the kiddies!!!

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 Response 99 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:17) * 1 lines
oh it's nothing compared to new orleans. it's butt to butt there (but they throw better stuff)....a couple of years ago, two kids got in trouble because they mooned the floats. that's the worse i've heard. drunk and disorderly is about as bad as it gets, thank goodness. the kids have a good time and that's the reason we do it year after year (even when we vow not to do it again!)

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 Response 100 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:18) * 1 lines
it was really cold today though and i was covered in blankets while waiting. kids weren't cold at all and were so mad at us for making them wear their jackets! what happens when we get older? suddenly it's too cold for anything, or too hot. kids just go out there and do it!

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 Response 101 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:42) * 1 lines
Yup! That's what happens, I hear *grin* How else can you wear a t-shirt 5 sizes too small and attract enough beads to weight down a burial at sea?! Not by wearing a jacket - for sure! Enjoy and let the good times rollez

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 Response 102 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:50) * 1 lines
yeah, well that was me, keeping warm, and the teens (with mom right behind them) without coats but getting all the beads. they'd go right up to floats despite the "float guards" who, for safety, tried to keep people back.

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 Response 103 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (22:56) * 1 lines
What fun is it to be a float guard if you don't have all those shrunken t-shirt rubbing up against you?! (Now, go to bed, Wolfie!)

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 Response 104 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (23:00) * 1 lines
yes ma'am *smart salute* actually, i gotta go to sleep.....see ya tomorrow!

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 Response 105 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  4, 2000 (23:16) * 1 lines
G'night Wolfie!! It was fun...sleep well and talk to you tomorrow!

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 Response 106 of 777: Karen  (KarenR) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (13:23) * 2 lines
(Marcia) How do you thicken gumbo without okra?
Filé powder, which is from sassafras. Gumbos use okra or filé; never both.

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 Response 107 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (13:49) * 1 lines
we always use file'.....but i've had gumbo with okra and it's good too. cooked okra isn't really slimy at all....

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 Response 108 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:10) * 1 lines
See, I learned something. Thank you, ladies!

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 Response 109 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (14:12) * 1 lines
Can you taste the sassafrass in the filé?

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 Response 110 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:40) * 1 lines
couldn't tell you, never had sassafrass by itself but you can definitely tell when the file' is added!

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 Response 111 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (15:43) * 1 lines
You mean you never walked through the woods in the spring and your Dad cut you a shoot of sassafrass to chew on. Gets really slippery and tastes really neat. Sort of like rootbeer without the sweetness.

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 Response 112 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:04) * 3 lines
I have a fun botanical fact, okra is a member of the hibiscus family. I must have had improperly cooked okra, as it was slimy, worse yet it was slimy and furry. Not a great textural sensation. 



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 Response 113 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:24) * 1 lines
It is downright nasty cooked improperly. My mom managed to do that each time she put it in the home-made veggie soup. Indeed, it is a hibiscus...just as Spanish moss is a bromeliad and a relative of the pineapple!

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 Response 114 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (16:36) * 1 lines
Thats right, the pineapple is an edible bromeliad. It is also an immigrant to Hawaii, being native to either the Caribbean or Central America. The pineapple was introduced to Hawaii by Europeans.

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 Response 115 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (17:12) * 1 lines
Indeed and now it is grown in Southeast Asia and the Philippines at much lower prices...*sigh* We priced ourselves out of the sugar market and soon will do so for pineapple. Very sad!

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 Response 116 of 777: Karen  (KarenR) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (17:44) * 1 lines
It's your real estate. It's worth too much to be used for farming said items.

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 Response 117 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (17:46) * 3 lines
Well you still have the Kona coffee. The last time I had it was in a blend; it was blended with Columbian coffee.

In Florida Big Sugar are dirty words to many people.

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 Response 118 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:17) * 1 lines
Karen, the sad truth is that even in Paradise the people need a way to earn a living. Granted that tourism is our main strength along with the military, but in the past 10 years base closures and depressed economic situations have made it very difficult to keep our state supported University campuses afloat. We need other sources of income if they are going to price themselves out of the market! Sugar workers chose to go on welfare rather than take a cut in pay - they were the highest paid agricultural workers in the world when they made this choice. Who is supposed to pay for this welfare if we all take that way out?!

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 Response 119 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:48) * 1 lines
we have pineapple growing in my house (until real spring hits)! i've got a couple of okra seedlings growing, first time this year, they seem viney....

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 120 of 777: Karen  (KarenR) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:50) * 1 lines
It's not just tourism but real estate development. Remember, the San Fernando Valley used to be full of citrus trees.

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 Response 121 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:57) * 1 lines
Yes, I know, but they commute to their jobs in Los Angeles by car. Where are the people going to go to get jobs to commute? That is part of the problem. The Kona side is pricey and touristy. This side is the working part of the Island and it is not as healthy financially as is the other side.

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 Response 122 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:58) * 1 lines
Wolfie, is that pineapple doing ok? I remember discussing what to do with it last fall - then I forgot all about it. Say Aloha to it =)

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 Response 123 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (18:59) * 1 lines
Was there once cattle ranching on the island of Hawaii? And do Maui onions really come from Maui?

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 Response 124 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (19:00) * 1 lines
Oh yes, Okra that I've seen grows on tough prickly vines. Sounds right!!!

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 Response 125 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (19:02) * 1 lines
Still is cattle ranching though the Parker Ranch is no longer larger than the King Ranch of Texas. We have great range-fed beef here. Maui onions really come from Maui and they can be pretty hot if the weather is too dry and hot over there. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 126 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (19:08) * 1 lines
So if you're in the mood, you can enjoy a nice steak with some grilled onions. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 127 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (19:15) * 1 lines
Oh yes ma'am! And the best Prime Rib you can sink your teeth into on earth! Washed down with Menehune Beer (local micro-brewery) and a side of Manoa Lettuce salad...*sigh* getting hungry!

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 Response 128 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (21:32) * 3 lines
there's room to farm cattle? *grin*

the pineapple is doing well in the house. not a shoot yet though. perhaps this summer when i'm away *frown*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 129 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (22:04) * 1 lines
Our island is about the size of Connecticut. 200 square miles, I think - but to verify that I just fired off an email to John to check. It takes 18 months from cutting to cutting. You harvested that top only a few months ago...is that right??!

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 Response 130 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (22:13) * 1 lines
i harvested it last year before summer. so, maybe december i'll have a shoot or something! it had to be summer because i started it outside and it wasn't cold at all.

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 Response 131 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (22:28) * 3 lines
The crown should grow to about 2 feet in diameter then in the center it will take on a deep rosy color. Then a tiny bunch of little thingies will be down in the deep well made by the leaves...then the stalk under it will grow...then the pineapple will swell and increase in size. Happy thoughts of harvesting come into your mind but remember, pineapples do not ripen off the plant. Make sure it is perfect when you harvest it.

When you put it outside in good soil, water it well and feed it. It will respond!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 132 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  6, 2000 (22:35) * 6 lines
Just heard from John:

The BIG island is officially 4,038 sq. mi. and increasing all the time where the lava meets the ocean in Puna. It is the largest island under the U.S. flag. 




 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 133 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (09:22) * 1 lines
kinda like a bromeliad, then, marcia, only no water in the well! it's fairly large compared to when i planted the pineapple top. no reddish tinge though. do you think if i put an apple on the soil, it'll force the fruit? (this is what you do to get a bromeliad to bloom if it hasn't in awhile)

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 Response 134 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (11:34) * 1 lines
The Pineapple IS a bromelaid. Funny thing about the thought of no water in the well. They grow in open fields here and it rains a lot! Needless to say, they get a lot of water in the well and just about all of the time! It does evaporate quickly, so if you are gonna plant them where they will get wet but not dry out again, you might just kill it with crown rot. If you get water in the well, no biggie, but be sure it dries out again. I have not heard of the apple forcing a plant to flower. I know it ripen already formed fruit. Not sure, either, that Pineapples are forceable. I think their 18 months routine is cast in concrete! But, experiment! We all may learn something *gtin*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 135 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (15:16) * 1 lines
see, i was afraid to give it crown rot by watering from the top, but in the summer, the water evaporates fairly quickly and does go down the well!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 136 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar  7, 2000 (16:17) * 1 lines
It'll be just fine! I know we are damper over here than you are even deep in the bayous.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 137 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (17:17) * 1 lines
Wolf did you and the junvenile members of your pack (i.e., your offspring) have a good time on Fat Tuesday. Now here it is the beginning of Lent. If you look at it philosophically without Lent, Carnival has no meaning. I know the pups (cubs?) were well looked after. Wolves are exempliary parents. Are young wolves called pups or cubs? Of course, your young ones, Wolf, are properly called children, but they probably hate that, especially if any of them are teenagers.

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 Response 138 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (19:45) * 3 lines
my pups are still young enough to love their mama! offices in new orleans and some select places in town close shop for tuesday and wednesday (fat tuesday and ash wednesday)....my first day of lent was alright as i was so busy i didn't miss the hershey kisses or the caffiene from sodas. (yup two things this year cuz i skipped last year). i'm not catholic, but we practiced lent in my homw growing up. had the AM doing it too (and he is catholic!)

the pups were busy raking leaves in the front yard yesterday (they got paid, too)...yard looks great and the kids learned a lesson on teamwork (that's what i tell myself anyway)!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 139 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (20:58) * 1 lines
Excellent practice for wolfhood in the big bad world. I got paid for raking leavesm, mowing the lawn and shovelling snow - but only if my father did not have to remind me. Then, I HAD to do it and got nothing for it. I remembered!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 140 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (21:02) * 1 lines
this is good. we do that too. boy do the kids get ticked when they're asked why they didn't do their chores. my son actually came out and told his father that the reason he didn't do his chores all week was because he didn't want to. no allowance. (of course, i'm home with him evenings and he tries to pull stunts)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 141 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Mar  8, 2000 (21:22) * 1 lines
Oh yeah! I guess they would not be normal kids if they did not try their boundaries...butcha have to live long enough to see THEIR kids doing the same things to their parents...Then you can say, "See!" It reaches them responsibility and mine learned that way, as well. I was a sorta push-over Mom, though. Way softer than necessary, but he turned out to be Very Responsible. I guess he was listening all those times!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 142 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (13:49) * 1 lines
well, i'm the fit thrower (ok, well, that's how i feel) but those ying-yangs would rather be with me than their father (!!) kids, gotta luv em....

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 143 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar  9, 2000 (14:29) * 1 lines
Got that right!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 144 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (15:57) * 3 lines
Wolf, your pups will still love their mama when they're grown.

Speaking of giving up things for Lent, my mom gave up smoking for Lent when year. That's how she stopped smoking, it worked for her. I did have a Catholic upbringing, (I'm what is known as "lapsed" now). Anyway -- I remember when I was little telling my mother that I wanted to give up broccoli for Lent. She said I had to give up something I liked, to which I replied, "I do like broccoli." In fact, I very much did and still do.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 145 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (17:32) * 3 lines
i like broccoli too! my son is trying to give up nintendo but just today he asked to play!! i told him he had to try to avoid it the best he could.

cheryl, thanks for that, i do hope they are close to me as we get older....

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 146 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:29) * 3 lines
It would be easy for me to give up broccoli if I did not have dips and salads in which to put it, and my mother to boil it till it ws gray...Yuck!

Wolfie, mine is close to me - so close that when I send him what I consider a funny story about a mother he writes all worried asking about hidden meanings and what was I really trying to say...! The acorns doe not fall far from the tree. Take my word for it - love will bond you like nothing else. On levels you never imagined!

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 Response 147 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (18:36) * 1 lines
good. (obviously something was missing in my childhood relationships *frown*)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 148 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 10, 2000 (19:01) * 1 lines
Yup! Mine too. Think that's why we are so affectionate and cuddly.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 149 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (09:00) * 1 lines
well, then good things do come out of bad at times.....*HUGS*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 150 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (12:10) * 1 lines
Indeed!!! Hugs, Wolfie. Was your weather terrible last night? Wish Austin would check in but I know at least one is online. That is good new, indeed!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 151 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (12:27) * 1 lines
we had lots of lightening and it's rather cool today. supposed to have a light frost tonight. better go put backs on all those goodies i planted!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 152 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (12:35) * 1 lines
Cover'um with burlap and leaves if you have any - they'll be ok! Bummer!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 153 of 777: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Mar 11, 2000 (12:37) * 1 lines
yup!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 154 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 14, 2000 (16:59) * 8 lines
In case this did not get to the eyes for which it was intended in Today's quotes, I repost it here:

For the creator of Geo:
"Real programmers don't work from 9 to 5. If any real programmers are
around at 9am it's because they were up all night."
-- Anon. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 155 of 777: Ginny  (vibrown) * Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (12:36) * 2 lines
I have no idea who that might be referring to... ;-) 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 156 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (14:04) * 1 lines
The creator of Geo will see it and know =)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 157 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr  3, 2000 (17:15) * 62 lines
Because it is important to read this following information I post it here as well as in News...

Because everything you read on the internet is true . . .

I was on my way to the post office to pick up my case of free M&M's, (sent
to me because I forwarded their e-mail to five other people, celebrating the

fact that the year 2000 is "MM" in Roman numerals), when I ran into a friend

whose neighbor, a young man, was home recovering from having been served a
rat in his bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken - which is predictable, since as

everyone knows, there's no actual chicken in Kentucky Fried Chicken, which
is why the government made them change their name to KFC.

Anyway, one day this guy went to sleep and when he awoke he was in his
bathtub and it was full of ice and he was sore all over and when he got out
of the tub he realized that HIS KIDNEYS HAD BEEN STOLEN. He saw a note on
his mirror that said "Call 911!" but he was afraid to use his phone because
it was connected to his computer, and there was a virus on his computer that

would destroy his hard drive if he opened e-mail entitled "Join the crew!"

He knew it wasn't a hoax because he himself was a computer programmer who
was working on software to prevent a global disaster in which all the
computers get together and distribute the $250.00 Neiman-Marcus cookie
recipe under the leadership of Bill Gates. (It's true - I read it all last
week in a mass e-mail from BILL GATES HIMSELF, who was also promising me a
free Disney World vacation and $5,000 if I would forward the e-mail to
everyone I know.) The poor man then tried to call 911 from a pay phone to
report his missing kidneys, but a voice on the line first asked him to press

#90, which unwittingly gave the bandit full access to the phone line at the
guy's expense. Then reaching into the coin-return slot he got jabbed with
an HIV-infected needle around which was wrapped around a note that said,
"Welcome to the world of AIDS."

Luckily he was only a few blocks from the hospital - the one where that
little boy who is dying of cancer is, the one whose last wish is for
everyone in the world to send him an e-mail and the American Cancer Society
has agreed to pay him a nickel for every e-mail he receives. I sent him two
e-mails and one of them was a bunch of X's and O's in the shape of an angel
(if you get it and forward it to more than 10 people, you will have good
luck but for 10 people you will only have OK luck and if you send it to
fewer than 10 people you will have BAD LUCK FOR SEVEN YEARS).

So anyway, the poor guy tried to drive himself to the hospital, but on the
way he noticed another car driving without its lights on. To be helpful, he
flashed his lights at him and was promptly shot as part of a gang
initiation.

Send THIS to all the friends who send you their junk mail and you will
receive 4 green M&Ms, but if you don't, the owner of Proctor and Gamble will

report you to his Satanist friends and you will have more bad luck: you will

get cancer from the Sodium Laureth Sulfate in your shampoo, your wife will
develop breast cancer from using the anti-perspirant which clogs the pores
under your arms, and the government will put a tax on your e-mails forever.
I know this is all true 'cause I read it on the Internet. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 158 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr  4, 2000 (19:58) * 4 lines
Sorry this is off conference but I have to put it somewhere:
http://promotions.go.com/espn/mascots/challenge.html
the Nittany Lion won the mascot battle! It was so close.. 50.0 to 49.9. Could anything be closer? But, it's great that your mascot won and I'm very happy for Penn State! 56,763 people actually voted on this important issue (including me, but we won't tell anyone!)
Thanks, Barbara!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 159 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr  8, 2000 (00:24) * 4 lines
Spent most of the day sruffing envelopes for the scholarship fund drive at UHHilo. I am too tired to write any more with no one to talk to. More tomorrow.
Good night...*hugs*

U



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 160 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Apr 10, 2000 (16:58) * 1 lines
Marcia, you must have been tired. You typed that you were "sruffing" envelopes.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 161 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 10, 2000 (19:19) * 2 lines
LOL *S I G H* I guess I was more tired than I knew. Actually, after stuffing the envelopes, much to everyone's horror, we were told to put them in zipcode order.
So, with as much dignity as I had left, I plopped onto the floor and spread the states out around me and did them all while the rest of the gang gossiped.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 162 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (02:20) * 1 lines
I am on the W 3.1 laptop onto which I downloaded *gasp* IE. I can see the pictures on Main - finally. Looks like the Magicians are busy at work on it even at this hour. Let's see if this can be posted. Lots of people have said that IE does not post very well. If you can see this, I succeeded.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 163 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 24, 2000 (02:21) * 1 lines
It's there! I guess it does work. Now I can post the real reason I came in to Spring tonight (tomorrow for everyone else!) More about that on Geo 17.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 164 of 777: Saskia Burch  (Saskia) * Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (18:01) * 1 lines
Hello to one and all. As you can note my name is Saskia Burch. I don't have any Dutch lineage despite my first name. My mother has a degree in art history and she really admires the work of Rembrandt. That's the story of how I got my name. A bit about me, in brief. I was born in Hong Kong. My father is of English/Chinese descent and my mother is American of German and American Indian (Crow) ancestry. I don't remember much about Hong Kong. We moved when I was four. We went to live in England, at Cambridge, where Dad was working toward his doctorate in mathematics. After that, I lived in Montreal and New York City. I'm 22 and am currently studying theater arts. No, I do not want to be an actress. I want to direct plays, opera, theater!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 165 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (18:05) * 1 lines
Let us know when you need some encouragement in those noble pursuits. We are good for that as well as other stuff. I am SO delighted to have you posting here!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 166 of 777: geospring (sprin5) * Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:24) * 1 lines
Have you had a chance to direct anything yet? What a fascinating lineage, Saskia. And you've lived in the worlds cultural meccas, very interesting. I look forward to talking to you more.

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 Response 167 of 777: World Builder  (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 25, 2000 (21:34) * 1 lines
I do, as well *smile*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 168 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May  2, 2000 (21:39) * 1 lines
How do I get the buttons back onto Geo - please check my rc file, Magician of the Spring!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 169 of 777: geospring (sprin5) * Wed, May  3, 2000 (04:23) * 1 lines
Looks like cfadm put them back.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 170 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, May  3, 2000 (11:50) * 3 lines
One or the other of us did - we were both working at the same time on it. I am sure he was the one who did as he is much better at it than I will ever be.
I wish I knew how it happened so I could prevent its reoccurrance. Thanks and
plaudits to the magician who restored my conference! *hugs* too.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 171 of 777: geospring (sprin5) * Wed, May  3, 2000 (14:21) * 1 lines
If you ever need answers to real specific Yapp questions you can post on the bulletin board at http://www.armidalesoftware.com

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 172 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, May  3, 2000 (14:25) * 3 lines
Thanks for that! I am installing new marble which is so lovely...I hope cfadm does not mind. I think it would be much better for dancing and does not resemble the pastry marble that he thought it other did...*grin* Now, to get the last of the frames transparent....

Comments (other than it is slow loading the first time) on the new wallpaper???

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 173 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (16:43) * 1 lines
As you can see, I changed it back almost exactly as Cfadm and I created it almost a year ago! It is now much easier to read. The other marble was lovely, but not a good background on which to read, and it clashed with my buttons. I could not find any bars which looked right but these at least do not clutter the place. Opinions, please? I have these same bars in a charcoal and a light green as well...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 174 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (17:17) * 1 lines
it's ok, but at first, i thought i was looking at chewed up straws! *GRIN* looks good!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 175 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (17:37) * 1 lines
I think it is supposed to be wrought iron. I can try the darker version

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 176 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (17:46) * 2 lines
*grin* 


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 Response 177 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (19:08) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 178 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (19:18) * 1 lines
The light green might be interesting, as it is a naturally occuring color in marble. Yes, I know charcoal gray also occurs naturally in marble. Consider how gray to you want your page to be. The background is pale gray, with black body copy, the light green might offer a certain visual interest. The darker gray would work as well, it would be very tasteful. Sort of an antique book look, if you will.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 179 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (19:38) * 1 lines
Don't like the coprolite bar? actually, look at the title page and imagine the clutter with colorful bars. I tried rust, other gold ones but I think these have the necessary dimentional qualities without being too obtrusive - and they ARE stone!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 180 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (19:39) * 1 lines
It works!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 181 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 30, 2000 (19:43) * 1 lines
Mahalo! I think I shall leave well enough alone!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 182 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (23:41) * 1 lines
Comments, Please! New look???

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 183 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (23:55) * 1 lines
These bars I also have in the same quality of pale blue with dark just like the green ones on now......which just might look better with the front page of Geo's clipart globe. Thoughts?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 184 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (04:03) * 1 lines
personally I lke the old grey ones! But that's just me ...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 185 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (12:05) * 2 lines
Have plenty of options. One I tried laast nght was a very dark green and bold square-ended one which dominated the entire place. I'll be playing with it so check back. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 186 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (17:11) * 1 lines
it's taking ages to load!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 187 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (18:03) * 1 lines
Yes...I was working on it when you were trying to load. Back to the minimalist. I think they work best and the other are in storage for some other time. Downloaded an awesome one which I have no idea where to use.....but it was too stunning to resist.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 188 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (18:13) * 1 lines
I like the green hyper-links. Sorry I missed seeing the green bars, but if they were taking forever to load..It's just as well you brought back an oldie, but a goodie.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 189 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (18:22) * 1 lines
The green ones were splendid with the dark green links, but miserable with the front page of Geo with the bright red Visto Banner and buttons. It was just wrong in every way... I tried a dark green long bar without texturing but was far to dominant. I think this one works best...there is enough going on in here as it is, I think.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 190 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (18:28) * 1 lines
Red and green, must've looked like Christmas. Red and green, I remember them from color theory class. Mixed together they give you brown, but used to together, for anything other than Christmas, the effect isn't pleasing.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 191 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (18:33) * 14 lines
I know.....here are the others:


Overwhelming bar


boring bar


The one I like best but clashes with the cover page


Awesome bar: 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 192 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (18:36) * 14 lines
Hmmmm: retrying the first two

Overwhelming Green bar


Boring in Brown 









 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 193 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (19:10) * 1 lines
The awesome bar has a really nice graphic quality. The one you like best has a very nice classical aesthetic, but not with the title page. The boring brown bar does have a attractive pattern. As for your current choice, I think it was Mies van der Rohe who said, "Less is more." I know for certain he said, "God dwells in the details."

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 194 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (19:43) * 4 lines
Those two quotes puzzle me...hmmm. They seem to the flip side of each other. If I wish God to be with the conference I must have lots of detail? I though the devil was in the detail?! Guess it is all in how you look at it.
I decided it was best for all concerned if I kept it as classic and uncluttered as possible. I thought the pink marble and gold bars was exquisit, but better for a Victoria's Secret webpage. I did not want to alienate the men in here by making it look like a boudoir.

The brown boring and my fav green are two of four identical bars with different coloring. I also have it in blue and charcoal. I seriously considered the blue but liked the green links....! That awesome one I saw on shown on a dark grey back ground of such color that the horizontal lines seemed to disappear and it seemed to hover on the page. Amazing!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 195 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (01:39) * 1 lines
I'm still a minimalist at heart!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 196 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (13:27) * 1 lines
I agree and this shall be the look for Geo... Any more elaborate bars clutter the main page with all of the graphics at the top! I agree, Maggie!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 197 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 18, 2000 (01:29) * 7 lines
For all the men who check to see what I am doing in here and occasionally post, this is for you: *Hugs* 







 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 198 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Sun, Jun 18, 2000 (12:53) * 1 lines
Happy Fathers' Day, indeed, to all you guys.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 199 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (19:35) * 3 lines


HAPPY SOLSTICE DAY



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 200 of 777:  (sprin5) * Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (07:40) * 1 lines
Happy Solstice!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 201 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (12:55) * 1 lines
Ok, next time I download it......was a beautiful image... 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 202 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun 27, 2000 (00:01) * 6 lines

HAUOLI NA HANAU, UILAMA,
The creator of Geo



white ginger, the most exquisite lei ever made. Me Ke Aloha 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 203 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun 27, 2000 (00:02) * 1 lines
when I goof, I do it as large as possible!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 204 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (04:22) * 1 lines

HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEO



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 205 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (12:48) * 2 lines
Thank you, Maggie!! When you use the big stuff, you remember to close the tags.
I had forgotten where I had posted the other Birthday wishes...Mahalo again

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 206 of 777: Americ Azevedo  (americ) * Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (22:49) * 1 lines
Just arrived! Thanks for the invite, Marcia.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 207 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (23:48) * 1 lines
No one you can imagine how delighted I am to have you here. We cover all sorts of stuff here - I know you'd find something interesting. Are you into Ley lines?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 208 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct  1, 2000 (16:51) * 1 lines
Hauoli Na Hanau, Lance!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 209 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (01:55) * 3 lines
Anouncing the betrothal of the hostess of this conference to a scholar and gentleman - and a gentle man.

More to come...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 210 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (02:03) * 3 lines
I hasten to add that my husband-to-be is a man who understands long term friendships, and he insists that I continue to do just what I have been doing since I and William created it long ago. He would not hear of my abandoning Geo. If anything, we have gotten someone who will aid and abet my posting here immeasurably. More to come...

My special friends remain just that to me - special cherished and part of my life.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 211 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (02:05) * 1 lines
(and that should have read "created by William and I". Without him, Geo would not exist, my eternal gratidue to one of the kindest men I have ever known.)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 212 of 777: MarkG  (MarkG) * Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (03:30) * 4 lines

Congratulations, Marcia!

What happy news. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 213 of 777: MarkG  (MarkG) * Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (03:32) * 4 lines
Desperately trying to decentralise (which doesn't always work for some reason).


Sorry...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 214 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Oct 26, 2000 (14:01) * 5 lines
Thanks, Mark... I thought I'd slip it in unobtrusively...where no one would ever find it. *smiling happily*

You did it the first time...it ijust quirk of Yapp software. To check that you did it right just hit the reload button and it will affirm your correction wad done properly.

Btw, that book... It is now residing next to Bulwer-Lytton's "Last Days of Pompeii" ... somehow, seems appropriate!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 215 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Sat, Oct 28, 2000 (12:44) * 1 lines
Best Wishes, Marcia and the Gentle Man.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 216 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 29, 2000 (00:12) * 1 lines
...who at the moment has been missing for two days. Stay tuned. There may be a homicide in my future and I am not gonna be the victim...! (Can you tell I am alternating between despair and anger and anxiety?) Thanks dear! I need all the hugs I can manage tonight!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 217 of 777: Neil Hodgins  (ThinkingManNeil) * Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (19:59) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 218 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (20:02) * 1 lines
hi marcia!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 219 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (20:04) * 2 lines
oops - was teaching Neil how to post image 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 220 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (20:04) * 1 lines
didn't mean to leave you out, hi neil!! (thanks for the card!!!)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 221 of 777: Neil Hodgins  (ThinkingManNeil) * Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (20:05) * 1 lines
your welcome, wolfie!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 222 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (20:07) * 1 lines
marcia, log onto msn!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 223 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 18, 2000 (23:52) * 1 lines
Wolfie check that I am on your list. I can see you when you are online...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 224 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 31, 2001 (17:26) * 49 lines
Lisa, this is for you - and thanks for sending it to me to post in perpetuity:

The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington
chemistry mid-term. The answer by one student was so "profound" that the
professor shared it with colleagues,via the internet, which is, of
course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well.

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic
(absorbs heat)?

Most students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools
off when it expands and heats up when it is compressed), or some
variant. One student, however, wrote the following:

"First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we
need to know the rate that souls are moving into Hell and the rate they
are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to
Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.

As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different
religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state
that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell.
Since there are more than one of these religions and since people do not
belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to
Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number
of souls in Hell to increase exponentially.

Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's
Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to
stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls
are added. This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls
enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase
until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in
Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes
over.

So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during
my Freshman year, that 'it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep
with you,' and take into account the fact that I still have not
succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then #2 cannot be true,
adn thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and will not freeze."

The student received the only "A" given. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 225 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, May 14, 2001 (20:52) * 15 lines
This is important enough that I post it not only in Books Conference, but also here. This book should be read by anyone under 50, and by those over 50 as well.
Don't be put off by the title. Check it out! Below is my review of the book for Amazon.com. More on the book can be found at http://www.herobooks.com/

"Bastards, Bitches, and Heroes"

By Herman I. Neuman

ISBN 0-595-12537-9




"Bastards, Bitches, and Heroes" touched me on so many profound levels that I am in the process of sending copies to friends. It is not a wallow for sympathy but rather, a bemused sardonic narration of survival. It is told in the most palatable way possible to enable those who will to see and understand. It enables us to handle the pain. Those who cannot or will not identify with the times in which the author lived still have an great read to look forward to. Mr. Neuman's book is told form a prospective we seldom see, but need desperately to remember. I am grateful for his sharing this harrowing and eventually triumphant memoir with us. That he has, has brought a new dimension and appreciation to my life. This book belongs in every school and in every home. Too many generations have forgotten the horrific price war exacts from the innocent. In every way, this is an important book through the eyes of a survivor. My grateful thanks to Mr Herman I Neuman for taking the incredibly difficult task in han
; to remember and share this book with us. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 226 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, May 15, 2001 (19:25) * 1 lines
Thanks for the recommended read, Marcia.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 227 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 15, 2001 (20:46) * 1 lines
This is a most remarkable book - reading it for the second time and have sent copies to people who need to know. Think it should be required reading for this new generation about to emerge onto the world stage. They have no clue about war and manipulation, deprivation and deception. Find a copy if you can. The author is a most amazing man with a lively sense of humor - his salvation!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 228 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Thu, May 17, 2001 (03:20) * 13 lines
Hi

A book to read for all interested in why I live on such an unstable strip of land in the South Pacific is:

Rocked and Ruptured, Jefley J. Aitken, 1999 - New Zealand faultlines and earthquakes

To order: go to http://www.gns.cri.nz - products - latest publications -
Rocked and Ruptured (NZ$ 2.47 to US$1)

Best before one of the faults rupture..................

Rob 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 229 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, May 20, 2001 (23:13) * 1 lines
Thanks, Rob, and if you haven't been properly welcomed, consider yourself *HUGGED*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 230 of 777: _cosmo_  (aa9il) * Mon, May 21, 2001 (22:48) * 12 lines
Howdy all

Picked this place to re-enter Spring life after a way
too long radio silence. Been kinda goofy for the past
few weeks/month but now sorted as the Brits would say.
Looked up at the night sky tonite when I got back home
which is always a good sign.

73 de Mike
AA9IL
radio cosmo international 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 231 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, May 22, 2001 (04:56) * 6 lines
Hi

NOW THAT IS SOMETHING I DON'T GET EVERYDAY. Not many people offer me hugs this frequently. THANK YOU!! If there was more loving and less killing half the worlds problems would be solved. I have seen too much hate and contempt displayed by people towards others. I wonder why teens are more lawless these days and why drugs/alcohol are now such a deadly mix?? Mum is a nurse so I know not to get on drugs, besides any good parent will have taught their children that. Some will say more money should be spent on health and education - I can see where they are coming from, but it is also HOW it is spent. The New Zealand government is under-funding somethings but supplying ample money for others and then putting so much red tape in the way, that the money is useless. Take Universities. My University is having a half day strike protest on Friday at 1PM to demand improved funding for tertiary educations. The other option is my fees and those of my mates go up by $1000. NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We simply do not have th
income to fund it and even if we did we also need to LIVE!!!!! That costs money as well. While the income per head in nations like Irelands soars to the heavens, New Zealand plods along like an old dinosaur just days before that meteorite hit.............................................

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 232 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 22, 2001 (14:37) * 3 lines
Oh Rob!!! More Hugs of hope and compassion. I raised a son I cherished enough to keep him from harm of any sort I could. Being a parent seems to be a disappearing skill but one I took very seriously - he had to learn one way or the other. But, like your parents had with you, I had good stuff to work with. We were both lucky in that.

I also hear you about the problems of fees for University. Hawaii has two University of Hawaii campuses, and ours gets less than 10% of the amount allotted for the University system. We spend a lot of time doing Scholarship Fund raising. Hang in there - if any one ever deserved a good University education and who would use it well, it is you, Rob! Please keep is up on the progress. Yup, you're gonna get another hug! I'm delighted you did not back away and say "Sheesh!" *;)

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 Response 233 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 22, 2001 (14:41) * 1 lines
Aloha Mike! Welcome back from feeding the mosquitoes on the edge of the Great White North and all that water. I assume you got tons of QSL cards and have logged in several thousand contacts including those monks in Greece on Mt Athos (?). Suddenly the sun got very quiet so the QRM should be at a minimum. How's the propagation? I haven't checked in a few weeks due to plugged ears from a cold / allergy / plague - or all three.

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 Response 234 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Tue, May 22, 2001 (16:12) * 1 lines
Marcia...how can you think of propagation while you are so ill.I will send you some peach wine to make you better

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 Response 235 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, May 22, 2001 (17:49) * 1 lines
horrible horace doesn't sound so horrible to me! hi cosmo, hh, and rob, and hugs to all of you!

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 Response 236 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 22, 2001 (19:20) * 3 lines
Hi Wolfie and 'orrible (as we who know and love him call him)! Taking you up on that peach wine. I have seen your brew and it is magnificent. Thirsting mightly here and coughing impressively too. Thanks for posting!

'ugs 'orrible, you're the best!

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 Response 237 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Wed, May 23, 2001 (16:08) * 1 lines
Peach wine made the Horrible head hurt..now mixing it with 7up. Sent you a piece from The Irish Times Marcia..our lot want to destroy another pieceof our history in Limerick

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 Response 238 of 777: _cosmo_  (aa9il) * Wed, May 23, 2001 (19:44) * 16 lines
Hi Marcia, Wolfie, 'orrible, and the rest of the Geoites

Marcia, I always feel welcome to this site even after I wierd
out and wander off for weeks at a time only to come back to
nice greets. -smile-
Wish I could say I was on a Dxpedition to some volcanic rock
in the middle of the ocean but in reality have been pharting
around with grad school (only one more class - woo hoo!) then
its summer break. I have been doing some work in the lab
while listening to the boat anchor radios which has kept me
slightly sane and that is a good thing. Soon, should have
some interesting posts regarding said experiments.

73 de Mike
radio cosmo international 


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 Response 239 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 24, 2001 (00:03) * 5 lines
Cosmic, Mike!

'ugs again, 'orrible. Archaeology is topic 17 here and there is where I will post your article. Mahalo for sending it on to me!
Sacred soil being dececrated again?! Unthinkable!
http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/read/geo/17/new

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 Response 240 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Thu, May 24, 2001 (04:42) * 8 lines
Hi

Today I was on national television with others at Canterbury University when One News (our biggest news programme)arrived to gauge reaction to the Government
Fiscal Budget. I was pessimistic because we got black mailed in the budget to not raise fees, in return for a deal that has not answered our quest for aid.
The problem is staff are struggling to deliver the education and have only kept half a promise made to solve the fees problem. Where is the other half and when will we see it? Although education got a funding increase it is not hitting the intended targets and leaves questions open. We get a Tertiary Commission to oversee funding for the Universities which has not solved the nuts and bolts problem of improving funding to match current inflation. All in all one wonders if we are actually any better off? The funding came through but when inflation is taken into account, nobody in so far as I know is a clear winner.
HUGS TO YOU MY LOVELY FRIEND. If you were to come to New Zealand I would die of delight.

Rob

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 Response 241 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 24, 2001 (19:02) * 7 lines
My sympathies on your university funding problems. We have the same difficulties here though government always seems to grow larger and consume more and more of the fiscal income. Unfortunately, wach time they form a commission to do good things for you, they get paid first and you get what is left. More bureaucrats to fund. *sigh*

Cannot have you dying of anything, but New Zealand is most assuredly on MY wish list to visit and I NEED to see the geothermal goodies. I seem to have a topic concerning just that somewhere in this conference languishing. Must hunt about for goodies on Wairaki or wherever you keep yours. I have a real passion for geysers and none here! They did drill into a magma chamber drilling for a new geothermal well, here. Surprise!!!

I just looked up Wairaki on Google.com and got the sheep-shearing results. Now, THAT is New Zealand at its finest! Poem and pictures and all about how to do it is included http://www.shearingworld.com/poems4.htm

I shall not see Aotearoa without seeing you, Rob, and I shall deliver my hugs personally! (The man is not only a university student in geologym, he founded several clubs on Yahoo for World Volcanology and World Seismicity from whence I stole him to share some of his precious time with us. Aloha, My Dear Kiwi Rob!

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 Response 242 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Fri, May 25, 2001 (05:03) * 16 lines
Hi

Today at 1300hrs local time the doors of the University of Canterbury were shut in protest at the Government which delivered it's budget yesterday. Although we have to acknowledge one wish of the students has come true in the last year - to freeze the debt on all new loans - the tag is appalling. In the years when National was in power there were huge debts run up by some that will never be repaid and it is a sad but true thing when I say, "a brain drain exists in New Zealand as a result of University underfunding and Government deafness on some issues."
$4 billion has been run up in debt and now Universities are being forced to accept black mail in the form of: "if Universities do not up the fees they are eligible for the funding we make available when the Tertiary Education Commission is set up." But hang on a minute, that funding is not taking into account inflation and the actual 5.1% offer on the table is a well disguised DECREASE IN FUNDING. WE ARE BEING BLACKMAILED!!!!!!!!!!! A knowledge economy comprises a better balanced economy which IDEALLY will have more than 0.57% of GDP going into the research and technology stakes. This comes at a time when Australia Ireland and the United States for example are on cruise mode (I think America is on cruise mode), and rapidly increasing their solid capital. It is NOT that I have a problem with health funding, but ideally if the government stopped fiddling around with the governing bodies of the health system then we would probably have one of the finest modern health systems in the world and be the envy of mos
nations. If it would give the registered nurses like my mum a payrise of 7-12%, more might stay and it would be possible, because we would actually have money usually tied up in health boards, to spend.
Oh and another thing, Canterbury University students are well known as leaders in their field for more than one reason. In 1999 there was a student occupation of the registry led by the same President Jarrod Gilbert of the University Students Association who lent Vice Chancellor Darryl Le Grew the support of the Association for todays shutdown. The 1999 event was all about fighting the staff and the Vice Chancellor over fee increases. Now on May 25 2001 the staff, VC and the 12000 students of the Students Association stand as one and resolve to force the government back to the drawing board. This IS NOT the end of the campaign, but the beginning of the campaign.


On to other things. First, Wairakei is how you spell it - the same name of a road very close to my place. The song "Amazing Grace" is less graceful than you and it is one of the loveliest songs I know, which says a lot for you. You did not steal me, I came here quite by choice being drawn by the warm beacon that I am convinced is perched on the southeastern flank of Kilauea (or is that Mauna Loa), about 500ft above sea level in a town called Hilo. The song was sung at the wedding of two of my University friends which went really beautifully and in a lovely spot in the Ashley river gorge, about 60km from Christchurch.
Speaking of music, what in Hawaii takes your fancy. I am more into classical music (I AM NOT your average young person in any way), and John Denver. The man may be dead but his music lives on and is evidently popular in of all places....... China and Russia (even during the Cold War).

Have to go now.

Haere ra,

Rob 

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 Response 243 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Fri, May 25, 2001 (05:10) * 5 lines
Hi again

Forgot to mention. For updates on the Canterbury university strike and the budget blackmail, go to http://www.stuff.co.nz for Canterbury news. And to read comments I made to a reporter from a local paper (I think our main daily) about the strike and funding.

Rob

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 Response 244 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, May 25, 2001 (14:56) * 6 lines
Hugs Rob! You and I share much in common I see. We are dead certain Chris Cairns has to be on the dream cricket team from New Zealand. I find no fault with the rest of your choices, either. Poor 12th man - Roger Twose is a very good sort - and he mostly gets to serve the drinks during the break. Oh well. Incidentally, there is a cricket topic which has langusihed a bit lately on Sports Conference. And, yes, it was by and for my further edification by the far flung colonials who must battle the Paks year after year. What is it I hear lately about the call for ridding the game of corruption? This, the MOST civilized of all games is rife with graft and game fixing? Tell me it is not so! Oddly enough, living out here on a rock (you know the feeling, I am sure,) we feel far closer to the island nations to our west than to the mainland who mostly forget that we became a state in 1959. I have learned how to pounounce Tonga properly (swallow the "g") and know that the Farthest outpost of my grandsire's
homeland is as much or more like England as England, itself.

I am off to look at your link to hunt down your comments. You are a most remarkable man - I cannot believe you also like classical music best of all. I have been that was since childhood. I could share many happy hours talking and listening with you, I am positive!

In 1992 you were here and I was not there to greet you with lei and gentle hug and kiss on your cheek? I would have made it for you from my own flowers! You noticed the driveways to nowhere and the streets ending in a grassy soccer pitch. That was the former site of Waiakea town, and when I first moved here my neighbors, who had been resettled in the area, told me horrific tales of that tsunami. That area has the lovely park and tsunami museum and art center, now plus a live-sized statue of Kamehameha the Great. Was that there when you were here? It adds a great dignity and beauty to the place. Our bayfront is rimmed by a black sand beach, and outrigger canoes race on the bay now much as I crewed on sail boats some years ago. Oh, and the world's highest and largest mountains form its backdrop. It IS lovely here! I am delighted you enjoyed your visit.

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 Response 245 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, May 27, 2001 (05:53) * 16 lines
Hi

Here is the hard truth about me. I am a doctors nightmare by accident. I was born severely handicapped. I cannot do some things that you or any normal person can do and have hearing loss in both ears with a hearing aid for my right ear. I have high blood pressure and was not expected to live to be 13.
Have I told you that? If not I will tell the fill story.

On to other things. Although liking many classical composers, most recently I have come to like Gustav Holst and Franz Liszt. Liszt wrote a great piece of music called Les Preludes with an 1812 Overture style ending - complete with fireworks it is almost as good as well. I love Tchaikovskys works, notably the fantasy overture from Romeo and Juliet, the 1812 Overture, Capriccio Italien and Marche Slave, as well as excerpts from various symphonies and the Nutcracker Suite. But the real attention is Holst. A British composer of German or Austrian descent, he wrote the brilliant Planets Suite. An absolute must hear. I have had fun with this suite.
I remember going to a concert where it was being played and the people next to me had young children. After the first half the boy and the girl (9 or 10)looked ready to sleep because the first half had not been very interesting. Anyway they came back for the second half looking decidely bored and were settling in for what they must have thought would be a relatively boring second half. It was NOT to be. In Roman mythology Mars is the god of war, so in musical terms you would expect something militaristic in sound. The children obviously did not know this and nor did their parents because their mum and dad looked a bit sleepy as well. Then Mars - Bringer of War began, its distinct attention grabbing beat catching all by surprise. All of a sudden they were all wide awake and attentive. The growling brass, and cold menacing drum beat quickly whipped itself into an assault on the ear drums before subsiding. But all is not well - just listening to the tension in the mid section should alert you to the fact that
something big is coming. I have never heard such an evil sound as the unrelenting violence of the last half of Mars.
That is just the first Planet. Venus - Bringer of Peace is the exact opposite of Mars and justifiably gentle with a real soothing edge to it. Mercury is interesting but I cannot describe it at any length. If you listen to Jupiter and then to the hymm "I vow to thee my country", you will notice you can put the hymm words to Jupiter. Saturn has a stern mid section and peaceful after tone, while Uranus is bold and enthusiastic. Uranus is intended to be vibrant and jolly. A female choir is the highlight of the last one - Neptune and they give it a haunting ending repeating the same chorus over and over again in ever softer tones until the sound gradually vanishes. So you see it has a broad range
and is Holsts defining work. BRILLIANT!!
Ravels Bolero is outstanding, and I used to hate it because it got so loud and the climax was too powerful but now I play it with fair frequency. Little wonder Torvill and Dean used it at Sarajevo in 1984 because it is great.

An earthquake hit Taumarunui on Friday and was 6.2 on the Moment Magnitude scale. It did no damage bit a lot of people right across the North Island felt it strongly. Sandi was triumphant when it hit because she had something to point at after prematurely posting the "Heads up New Zealand" article at World Seismicity.

Rob 


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 Response 246 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May 27, 2001 (08:28) * 1 lines
Sure Rob, tell us the full story. I guess Taumarunui is a town near you? Did you feel this?

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 Response 247 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, May 27, 2001 (23:57) * 5 lines
Please Rob, tell us! You are one of the most remarkable men I have ever had the privilege of knowing. We share Aloha, and that is very special to me. I am so delighted you are here and sharing your thoughts with us. I am especially delighted! If it is more personal than you wish to share, you know my email is always happy to hear from you!

Cheers to Sandi, first. She was right! I had suggested she err on the side of caution and to keep warning us of precursors which attracted her attention!

Ok, you got me in a really vulnerable area. Yup, I love "War Horse" music and love to have my liver rattled by loud stirring music. I can mist up over triumphal and moving music as much as I can over "chicken skin" scenerey. In fact, I did reading your Holst description. It is precisely how it is and I felt every note with you. Bravo for the parents who expose their children to great music early on and how to behave when you are not thrilled with what you are hearing. It was done for me as a tiny child, and I have been grateful ever since. So much so that my son is a devout Mozart fan but goes for anything "typically" classical. Many Hugs, Rob. You touched me on many levels with your post. It is my honor to know you and call you a very special friend!

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 Response 248 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, May 29, 2001 (04:40) * 11 lines
Hi

For 4 days in September 1989 I was very sick, the details I will skip but I am told by mum Friday September 17 was a day she would rather forget and truth be told so would I.
I was admitted to hospital on September 17 1989 with VERY high blood pressure that was of the scale of collapsing in the hallway outside my room at home. The highest recording at which we could get it reliably was at 260/180 and the doctors were too frightened to do much for a bit while they tried to get a handle on what was happening. For about four days I drifted in and out of consciousness, and on at least 3 occasions came within minutes of a graveyard. I cannot remember anything between probably the 17th and at least October 1st probably later, but it was a very trying time because my brother Craig had either the measles or mumps and was kept at Grandma's place while I was kept in isolation at hospital. For months after Black Friday I was living on borrowed time, because long term drugs had to be found for me and at the moment I am on 10 1/2 pills a day. I made a wish to go see Mount St Helens shortly after being discharged and was granted the wish in 1992 when we went to America. It was and always will
be a highlight of my life to date. The drugs I was on changed several times and had a bad reaction with my skin which has generated a rash ( I used to say I am fighting three world wars at once - bloodpressure, rash, hearing loss - I am losing the latter, stalemated the other two). The bloodpressure problems have caused all manner of other problems along the way. I cannot work fulltime and my GP probably would not let me anyway because of it.
I cannot do much physical activity without tiring (shunting trolleys for 6 hours a Saturday and Sunday at the supermarket is not bad but can be tiring).
The real me was born in 1989 on a crap day in September, going horrible places I hope no one follows me to. John Denver has this cool song called Some Days are Diamonds, some days are Stones. It sums up my life story. NO ONE expected me to live to be 13. I have exceeded every expectation the doctors and my parents had, I have exceeded my own fondest expectations and am the only person in my age group in New Zealand with 3 renal arteries. In 1998 I had a bad setback when a guidance who should have been sacked for it, suggested that I would do no one any good by spending a second year in year 13 and that I have reached the end of my ability to learn. BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!! ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway I could not convince him as he was too arrogant to listen but the truth was I passed all five university bursary subjects in 1999, and two of my three subjects last year at University. DON'T EVER TELL ME I CANNOT DO SOMETHING. I have had it hard with only a few friends at high school, but they are absolutely w
nderful people to know and combined with the new friends I am making on the net (like you - HUGS)and at varsity, I am going somewhere and life has never looked so good as it does now.
"The planets suite" tells a story I think. Mars might represent the turbulence of teenage life, Venus the maturing afterwards as a young adult, Mercury and Jupiter your prime time, Saturn and Uranus the coming of your senior years, and Neptune your passing. Mars just ended for me, though not with the violence implied by the crashing cymbals at the end.

Rob 

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 Response 249 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 29, 2001 (18:23) * 2 lines
Oh Rob!!! So many hugs to you and gratitude to your angels for not dropping you when you were so close to being one of them! I love your Scots determination and independence of mind. It has served you well. I love that term BOLLOCKS!!! and yes, I know what it means. This gentle soul (Rob) is hard to rile, but do not sell him short!!! EVER!!! Your success academically delights me and you are wise beyond your years. I just hope you remain amongst us for as long as I plan to be around... I am hanging around Mercury and Jupiter and making up for a very bad Mars and a forgettable Venus. I do lapse back into Venus now and again as the spirit moves me and I am inspired to do so. One cannot get too much of a really good thing. Big Warm Tropical Hugs from your delighted volcano lady on Kilauea. Now, to find those New Zeal;and singers you mentioned elsewhere...
(I had my memory removed at age 32 and left on my own devices to get back what I could. Geo is what I got back!)

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 Response 250 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (13:28) * 1 lines
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARCIA!!!!


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 Response 251 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (14:53) * 1 lines
Marcias birthday???????????? you never said ..LOADS of hugs and kisses form the Horrible one

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 Response 252 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (15:49) * 2 lines
I will do a sacrifice on the sacred hill at the Dolmen and if it works Marcia will be a 16 year old virgin by sunrise 


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 Response 253 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (15:50) * 1 lines
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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 Response 254 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (15:56) * 1 lines
Thank you! Wolfie always manages to remember. *Big Hugs* to your both for your kind wishes!

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 Response 255 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (16:02) * 1 lines
Watch out world, Horrible, do your thing. I would imagine you would be along for the education of such young ladies. I expect the full treatment. What a gift... I can hardly wait!

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 Response 256 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (16:12) * 1 lines
If the spell fails ........then i will be one

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 Response 257 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (17:08) * 1 lines
However it works, it would not be the same without you! Meet you on the hill in the moonlight at mighnight in my veils of gossamer... 

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 Response 258 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (17:25) * 5 lines
Leis of Aloha for all of you who come here. I truly appreciate it! *Hugs*


Triple White Ginger Lei 


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 Response 259 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Thu, May 31, 2001 (21:17) * 13 lines
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARCIA!!!!!

It is always really sweet to celebrate such an important day in the life of such a beautiful as you!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARCIA.

HUGS AND A KISS

ROB (sitting on the Waimakariri floodplain)

I always thought Hawaiians are nice people to know. Certainly their politeness when you are pedestrian or when you need help can teach some of today youth a few manners. Having a friend in Hawaii means next time I go there I do not have to worry about accommodation. Likewise if you come to New Zealand, give me a bit of warning and you might be surprised how hospitable Kiwi's can be.

Rob 



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 Response 260 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  1, 2001 (15:42) * 9 lines
Thank you, Rob! How very dear you are. And, since hugs and kisses are always best when shared, cosider that you have also been hugged and kissed *;)

I have no doubt whatsoever of the warmth of your Kiwi hospitality. (I never "drop in" unexpectedly...) You have accommodation wherever I dwell, as well. What a happy thought that is! I can feel your the warmth of your hopitality all the way from your Waimakariri floodplain (that last word concerns me a bit concerning your safety... seems we have ranted about that elsewhere...*sigh*)

The Aloha Spirit is alive and well in Hilo. We do stop for pedestrians if they step off the curb! I would not try it in Honolulu, but here, we still take time to admire the mountains, gaze at the cobalt sea, and smell the flowers (or volcano fumes depending on the way the wind is blowing,) and to stop for pedestrians crossing streets.

Again thanks - what a lovely feeling knowing you has given to my life! 



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 Response 261 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Fri, Jun  1, 2001 (15:48) * 3 lines
Marcia, Happy Belated Birthday!!!

Wolfie, your birthday is around this time of year, too? Isn't it? If so, Happy Birthday, Curious Wolfie!!!

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 Response 262 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  1, 2001 (15:52) * 1 lines
Curious Wolfie's is June 8th.. hehehe...!

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 Response 263 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Fri, Jun  1, 2001 (15:59) * 1 lines
Thanks Marcia.

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 Response 264 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Fri, Jun  1, 2001 (17:03) * 1 lines
Hy men..did my spell work Marcia? Must have for you as I am pretty much the same,How are the rest of the nice people in this conf.? I'm trying to configure a presentation of the features of my pet Dolmen and I hope to get more photos soon.I hope to drag a ladder to the site,maybe get some high shots. Can't afford a helicopter! Lord I had a hangover from celebrating your birthday

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 Response 265 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun  3, 2001 (00:57) * 3 lines
(Very naughty!!!) You will have to judge for yourself, HH... not giving away my trade secrets that easily! I want to see your dolmen. Looked for red lines on photos and could see none. Happy that you enjoyed the party and hangover. Is that a national passtime there, or is that merely myth?

Waiting for those sky-hook photos ...

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 Response 266 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun  3, 2001 (01:01) * 1 lines
(How did I miss Horace for two days??? Oh dear, I am slipping. Perhaps it is my newly created self doing this to me. Horrible, what do I do next? Me being all restored and all that good stuff... Back to warming your little duckies. I trust they are doing well?!

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 Response 267 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Sun, Jun  3, 2001 (03:41) * 1 lines
I have not yet had time to post the Dolmen pics yet Marcia,will mail you when I do.Ihave a whole bundle to edit.As for the spell.I forgot to check on the after effects ,Hope I have not turned you into a Brittany Spears look alike.Liam

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 Response 268 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun  3, 2001 (14:47) * 3 lines
No, I am a chestnut-haired lady with a very interesting look about me - classical rather than Barbie-doll cute. I wonder how Brittany will age. Probably not all that gracefully. Ah well, there is virtue in being a late-bloomer, after all!

Good luck on programming, Horace. It is tedious and time consuming and totally unforgiving if you make the slightest mistake. Go for it! I await your email to announce your accomplishment of the same with eagerness.

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 Response 269 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Sun, Jun  3, 2001 (18:52) * 1 lines
Marcia, never mind the look,anyone with an ounce of wit should see the lovely lady that you are.I have posted in the Archaeo section on the Dolmen ,and at the risk of becoming tedious or Dar I say it boring,you will find the pics of the stones around my pet Dolmen at http://www.geocities.com/bree_house go to the photofile and click the third from top button(empty) the pics are there I hope. Now back to cute bet you are cuter than any little Lopez or Spears..I know I am ...................Liam

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 Response 270 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Sun, Jun  3, 2001 (19:10) * 1 lines
Hell did I say cute for me ..I meant to say horrible in spades....Liam

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 Response 271 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun  4, 2001 (00:07) * 3 lines
Horace, I have seen you - remember? Your kind words about me are most appreciated. However, I think you look charming in rubber books. Yes, even Cute! Now tell me I am mistaken and I will not listen!

His dolmen pictures are where he says they are but they are listed in full. No blank buttons. (Dar is a loaner. I poked at him the other day. I wonder how he took it. Very little sense of humor in that man, I fear.)

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 Response 272 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun  4, 2001 (14:38) * 1 lines
Rubber BOOTS!!! Now I have caught the horribles from you! Still say you are cute in rubber boots!

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 Response 273 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Jun  4, 2001 (21:23) * 1 lines
what's a dolmen? i went to the link and saw pictures of a house structure, is this what i was supposed to be seeing?

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 Response 274 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Tue, Jun  5, 2001 (04:51) * 2 lines
Hi Wolfie,go back to that link ,click on the "archaeolgy" button,down will drop a menu with the list,dolmen is the first .This is a 5000 years old buriel place 


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 Response 275 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun  5, 2001 (13:55) * 1 lines
Horace dear, may I post your dolmen picture here with the url from which it came? Or I can post one of the several on the net which are not nearly as wonderful as are yours pictures. Pretty please?!

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 Response 276 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Tue, Jun  5, 2001 (15:41) * 1 lines
Please use my pics Marcia,and any of the people in this conference are also welcome to use any pics on my site.Some of these have been reduced in size and quality to suit downloading(people just cant wait on the net,if your page takes longer than 8 secs to download ..why.. off they go to someplace else)So if anyone would like better pics for school-work or projects,just ask

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 Response 277 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun  5, 2001 (16:47) * 1 lines
My usual limit is about 50KB or lower or it makes the Topics too time-consuming to download for new readers. Linking your pictures is probably the best idea instead of downloading them unless you are going to change them. Look in Geo 17 for Dolmen pictures as nature claims and adorns same!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 278 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Jun  5, 2001 (19:15) * 1 lines
thanks! i understand now!! and i can't believe you went inside--did you find anything?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 279 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun  5, 2001 (21:37) * 1 lines
He went inside that dolmen because he has pictures looking out from inside. That, or his handly helper did. Will poast sortly - am still workingout a few programming kinks.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 280 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (15:43) * 1 lines
Sure I went inside Wolf,there is seldom anything to find as these ancient structures have all been looted long ago.The beauty of being in something so old is a big thing though,and as this is home territory and not ,say Egypt,its even better.This Dolmen is just one of many features of the area around our home and they will all be on my web-site in the future,lots are there already.There are Standing Stones,Springs sacred to the celts and older and all sorts of ancient goodies.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 281 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (16:18) * 1 lines
Aching yearning sighs - sacred springs! Standing stones!!! Have you found any of those little bronze or iron votive figurines in those springs? The British Museum was as close to them as I ever got to any, but how modern and beautiful they are. Some very like the Uffington White Horse.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 282 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (16:58) * 1 lines
Inside the Dolmen


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 283 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (16:59) * 1 lines
Inside the Dolmen


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 284 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (20:31) * 1 lines
having those things on your property is waaaay cool. and who is this cutey inside the dolmen?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 285 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (20:49) * 3 lines
Tell me it is waaaaaaay cool... *great sighs of longing*

a Leprechaun?! 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 286 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (22:20) * 1 lines
hmmmm, i wonder! *grin*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 287 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (22:22) * 5 lines
I had no idea that some dolomens are that big inside. Think that is my buddy and favorite little Leprechaun-in-training. Wow!!! It is enormous inside and a lot older than the smaller ones in Cornwall and Wales that I saw. Curled into a ball I would just about have fit in there and I am 5'6" and weigh about 125 pounds soaking wet. I refuse to believe that midden heaps had anything whatsoever to do with building burial mounds, despite the latest theories. This stuff belongs on Geo 17. Oh well.

Rob, how's school and work going? Sounds rather a big load for one guy no matter how brilliant you are! Please take care and take time to smell the roses for me (Oops, wrong time of year! Never mind, Here is one for you from me!) 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 288 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (22:23) * 4 lines
Oh, the rest of your rose... 




 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 289 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (22:24) * 2 lines
Wolfie, it says if you look very carefully that the Leprechaun has a name. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 290 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun  6, 2001 (23:08) * 3 lines
Wolfie!!! The M's are back!!! OOOH I gotta email you right NOW!!!

Thank you for that... I should have known. *Great big smiles* and loads of love to a very special programmer. Who else could have done it?!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 291 of 777: KJArt  (KJArt) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (15:49) * 19 lines


Wolfie!!
Pardon my trespass, but I thought I 'd just slip on in

... and wish you many happy returns of the day! ...


Here's a Spring-time floral offering ...

Iris in Bud


... for the Natal Day our favorite lupine being...

This is my night to HOWWWL!!


And sincere wishes for a ...

Happy Birthday Wolfie, and many more...
Best wishes, KJ 






 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 292 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (15:58) * 1 lines
Happy Birthday Curious Wolfie!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 293 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (16:09) * 11 lines

Hauoli Na hanau Wolfie Dear!
*HUGS*



Sweetheart Orchid Lei

This is the latest in lei designs, made from over 1000
individual Dendrobium petals. Light purple edges, dark purple
in the middle.

Very rare and hardy. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 294 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (16:17) * 1 lines
Happy birthday Wolfie from the Emerald Isle

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 295 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (16:19) * 5 lines
I'd give you what you REALLY want for your birthday, but I'm not certain where you'd put "it" on weekends... or even have a picture of "it" to post.

Have a good one, Dear. I wish I were there to take you to dinner and howl at the full moon 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 296 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (16:58) * 2 lines
If Wolfie was a real wolf..you would be the dinner Marcia 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 297 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (17:10) * 1 lines
*sigh* May I come along with Wolfie? I was hoping not to be the main course, actually. (She is far from fierce, but that is perhaps because she is very dear to me.)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 298 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (22:13) * 3 lines
this wolfie is omnivorous (but people aren't on my list).

thanks, guys, for the wonderful birthday surprise!! it brightened my day!! if i could ftp, i'd post something for you all as well!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 299 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (22:43) * 6 lines
*sigh...* We will work on it!


Wolfie the T is missing from my confifty. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 300 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (22:51) * 2 lines
KJArt is always welcome in Geo. (Whaddya mean "trespass"???)
What a lovely Wolf you found. Now Horrible is gonna tell me just the reverse and I will be sorry for his duckies again.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 301 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  8, 2001 (23:27) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 302 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Jun  9, 2001 (00:27) * 5 lines
Rob, is Christchurch really this beautiful? *packing suitcase for eventuality*

http://www.crosswinds.net/~jonathancarr/gallery/chch/chch1.html

(I tried to post the image but they would not let me.)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 303 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (05:18) * 13 lines
Hi all

I am going to embarrass Wolfie by singing Happy Birthday over the net:

Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday dear WOLFIE
Happy Birthday to you

HIP HIP HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 304 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (05:22) * 5 lines
Hi all

Christchurch is all that and some more. We live in a lovely with a crappy Cathedral Square. It is a nice place or will be a nice place WHEN AND ONLY WHEN THEY GET RID OF THE REVOLTING GRANITE SLABS. It is an English style city (sometimes said to be more English than England), but it has a Eastern-Bloc style square in the centre and it is hard on the eyes because of the glare in summer.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 305 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (06:01) * 10 lines
Hi all

"Cold nights in Kiwi land and icy blue winds"
It hailed today, and hailed some more. And you know what?? It has hailed again.
None of it was at all heavy, quite gentle at times but enough has fallen that the grass is white (you might mistake it for snow). VERY COLD at the moment - not more than 1.C and it never got more than 6.C today contrary to what the news said tonight. Hail in winter here usually comes with cold southerlies blasting straight of the Antarctic but once it came from the west when a thunderstorm that had come of the foothills rolled over Christchurch.
I was thinking that IF you did come to Christchurch, we could go to West Coast for a few days and I could show you the Kiwi back country. It is just that the Glaciers are neat to look at, the Alpine Fault is close enough to some places that you can go for short walk to have a look, and did I mention Lake Brunner??
Absolutely lovely place with rainforest right down to the lake - stunning.

Rob 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 306 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (15:53) * 1 lines
thanks rob, not embarrassed at all, nice singing voice too! *hugs*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 307 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (15:54) * 8 lines
Ooouuu! My only glaciers have been from 7 miles straight up flying over Greenland and Iceland. I would dearly love to see on up close. Don't count me out. When I come to visit, I will not burden you with my existance, but I would like to share all of the experiences with you.

London has been scarred by those optical offences known as tower blocks there and dwarf the Tower of London and St Paul's Cathedral. It offends the eye and the esthetics in your soul.

Please stay warm! Safe and well! It sounds like sleet weather up north.
I listen to RNZI as I write this (15.160 MHz currently). I love likstening to the weather reports because they do it by district and it all is so familiar from long nights and of cricket-listening and general programming. Now, there is someone there I know and it ihas brought new meaning to this More-England-than-England land way down there but straight in line with us, as the arrow and heart flies.

Warm Hugs to protect you from the wintry blast... /\```

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 308 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (15:55) * 1 lines
Wolfie, you should hear how dignified their accent down there. New Zealand speaks the Queen's English better than the Queen and not at all like the Aussies so nearby!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 309 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (15:57) * 2 lines
Lake Brunner? No. I am full of curiousity and am off to see what I can find.
(Now Radio New Zealand is playing Hawaiian music, Rob! Sop close yet so far!)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 310 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (20:20) * 7 lines
Hi

It just occurred to me when I read the last line of MSG 307 that physical body contact in the cold can speed the return of warmth to the person needing it.
Severe hypothermia can be nasty to deal with and produces all manner of unexpected reactions like crankiness and mood swings. It is important that the blood flow not slow down and cut of the oxygen supply.
No shortage of avalable warmth with you around!!!!!

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 311 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 10, 2001 (22:29) * 4 lines
You are assured of an unending supply of warmth and aloha as long as you wish it...*;)

Now go watch Mt Etna erutping for really hot stuff.
http://web.poseidon.nti.it/Sorvis/vulcano.asp?Vulcano=Etna&Refresh=30

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 312 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 17, 2001 (21:21) * 3 lines
8888888888888888888888888888888
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY *HUGS*
8888888888888888888888888888888 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 313 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun 20, 2001 (01:13) * 5 lines
Rob, this one's for you:

Travel Conference / New Zealand

http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/read/travel/47/new

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 314 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun 20, 2001 (01:15) * 1 lines
Liam, might I interest you in Travel / Eire or Ireland?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 315 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Jun 30, 2001 (20:18) * 6 lines
Rob, for you I listened to the New Zealand All Blacks beat the French in Rugby
via short wave radio with my under-the-pillow speaker (I kept falling asleep be cause the signal was not very strong and it was in the middle of my night.)

All Blacks - 37

French - 12 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 316 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (16:53) * 6 lines
For Neil and the rest of you in the Great White North *Hugs*

Happy Canada Day






 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 317 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (16:58) * 1 lines
Have a butchers at the Horrible ones new finds http://homepage.eircom.net/~bree and look at the new Stone Circle and (fallen)Standing Stones on the stones page 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 318 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (17:07) * 6 lines
For Neil and the rest of you in the Great White North *Hugs*

Happy Canada Day






 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 319 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (17:12) * 1 lines
Oooh Ahhh! Stone circles!! How great thou art! Next, to find your flora pictures, and what does that have to do with the butcher? Ah well, Perhaps Hawaiian and Irish versions of "English" have left me wandering about blindfolded?!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 320 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (17:13) * 1 lines
Is Canada finished yet?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 321 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (17:21) * 2 lines
Liam, your exquisite tiny wild flowers are very special. Probably not a lot of places you can see the flowers from which our modern garden flowers evolved. At least, I am guessing that from your wild garlic and field pansy, among others.
Thanks for sharing them - they are truly lovely!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 322 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jul  1, 2001 (17:29) * 1 lines
Canada is still there as far as I know but no one from there has been to geo for a long time. At least, as far as I know. Are Irish tistles more prickly than Scots ones? These look like they bite! How lovely your nature-seeded garden is! Please leave the wild places wild so this nymph can find a home when the dolmen is occupied!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 323 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Jul  2, 2001 (18:41) * 1 lines
Marcia, I thought of you today when I'd heard that the BBC was cutting back on their shortwave service.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 324 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Wed, Jul  4, 2001 (01:41) * 7 lines
Hi

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY MARCIA, ET AL IN AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!

HUGS FOR ALL

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 325 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul  4, 2001 (15:30) * 1 lines
Happy 4th Everyone!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 326 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Wed, Jul  4, 2001 (15:50) * 2 lines
The joke about Canada is an old one from Brendan Behan a once famous Irish playwrite.He was fed up with stupid newsmen asking stupid questions so when one asked what he thought of Canada ( he'd only been there for about 10 minutes)he replied "I'm sure it wil be nice when its finished".
HAPPY 4 TH to all you Gringos :^)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 327 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul  4, 2001 (17:34) * 8 lines
lol - sounds like something Brendan Behan might have said. Actualy what make Canada so lovely is the fact that is ISN'T finished - they have left it lovely and wild in some parts just for Nature and creatures.


Happy Independence Day, America. If we don't work at it we are going to lose it. "Freedom isn't Free" 





 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 328 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul  4, 2001 (17:39) * 4 lines
We are Gringos from south of the border and Yanks to the rest. Ah you are from Sourthern Ireland. Now I understand...*grin*
I guess some places what we are called is unprintable....*sigh*

My gratitude and *HUGS* to all those who have fought and sacrificed and made careers out of being part of our freedom-keeping armed forces. (You know who you are...*grin*)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 329 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jul  6, 2001 (17:55) * 26 lines
From Liam who know all and sees all: This fascinated me because I have a relative to whom Kiwi fruit are toxic - they clean him out in short order just like a dose of food poisoning. He is the only case like that of which I have heard. Anything Kiwi has to be beneficial (my own *unbiased* view.)

First UK study into rise of kiwi fruit allergy

Volunteers from throughout the country are being asked to take part in the first major scientific study into the prevalence of kiwi fruit allergy in the UK.

University of Southampton researchers are looking for children and adults who know, or believe, they are among the growing number of people allergic to the egg-sized brown fruit.

Allergy specialists at Southampton General Hospital have become increasingly concerned at the rise in cases, which mirrors the increasing popularity of Actinidia chinensis - also known as the Chinese gooseberry.

Babies as young as three and four months are suffering allergic reactions as the exotic fruit becomes a more common weaning food. Symptoms can range from just a tingling sensation around the mouth to a life-threatening anaphylactic shock.

Dr Jane Lucas, Paediatric Senior Registrar, who is leading the 18-month study said: "This is a relatively new allergy first described in the early 1980s. In our clinics we have seen increasing numbers of patients over the last few years but at present no-one knows how common it is in the UK.

"This is the first, large-scale study of its kind. We hope it will be a springboard to further and more detailed research looking at which parts of the kiwi fruit are responsible for causing an allergic reaction.

"In the longer term this would then help in the development of therapeutic strategies to help sufferers."

Those taking part in the study will be asked to complete a detailed questionnaire and have skin-prick and blood tests. The reliability of these traditional diagnostic tools will also be investigated through controlled oral challenges where potential allergics will be given a small amount of kiwi fruit to taste.

There is some research evidence suggesting that people allergic to kiwi fruit are also likely to be sensitive to latex and birch pollen. Dr Lucas added: "We are trying to work out what percentage of people have associated allergies.

"We will be testing participants to see if they also react to latex, birch pollen, avocado, banana and apple. Although there is evidence that kiwi fruit is one of a cluster of related allergies our experience in Southampton has been that this is also a mono-allergy."

So far over 70 adults and children have been recruited to the study including one woman in her nineties. Anyone wanting more information or who would like to take part in the trial should telephone Snita Bansal on 023 8079 6867 or email her on sb11@soton.ac.uk. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 330 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Fri, Jul  6, 2001 (20:13) * 1 lines
oh, i love kiwi fruit!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 331 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul  7, 2001 (13:34) * 1 lines
I'm afraid to try them from the experience of my ex, but I am not genetically related to him (obviously) and they ARE from New Zealand... I guess I will simply have to have some. I think there is nothing on earth that someone is not allergic to - it is part of the human condition!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 332 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 10, 2001 (15:07) * 58 lines
To the man who made it all possible, my fondest aloha and thanks. You didn't know what you were getting into, or, did you?! A Maile Lei for you and requisite hug and kiss:

Maile Lei

QUALITIES: Pleasant,
unique fragrance. Rich green
color. Different uses.
Long-lasting. Worn in an
open-ended fashion. Often
saved as a memento in dried
form, after it's worn.

DESCRIPTION: The fragrant
Maile is made from a lush
green vine and is part of the
periwinkle family. To make
them into leis, maile leaves
and bark are stripped in
strands from a woody stem,
then knotted together into a
single, open-ended garland.
Maile is sometimes
intertwined with other varieties
of flowers. People have
described its fragrance as
woody-- even vanilla-like.

Maile may be worn at any
occasion. It's also a beautiful
and unique replacement for
ribbons when used at opening
ceremonies or dedications for
office buildings or homes.
When used for this purpose,
it's recommended that two
maile leis be tied loosely
together at one end and strung
across a doorway or a portion
of an entry area. Instead of
cutting a ribbon, the maile is
untied.

Maile holds a legendary place
in Hawaiian culture. Hula
dancers wore the Maile as a
way of presenting it to Laka--
the goddess of the Hawaiian
hula, or dance. Polynesian
warriors used it as peace
offerings. And that's why we
like to refer to it as "The
Legend" because of its place
in Polynesian culture.



HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEO 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 333 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Wed, Jul 11, 2001 (04:53) * 5 lines
Hi

Kiwi fruit are nice when they are obviously ripe, and.... yes, they certainly go down well with pavlova (Kiwi dessert with a Russian name to celebrate the ballet dancer Anna Pavlova). Pavlova visited here and Australia on tour in the early 1900s, and someone created a great dessert to celebrate. Some say it originated in Aussie (Australians and traitorous Kiwi's and vice versa say it originated here). Cut in half with knife and use a spoon to scope out the interior - DON'T EAT THE SKIN.

Rob 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 334 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Wed, Jul 11, 2001 (15:21) * 1 lines
Makes nice wine too,its actually from China and is also known as Cape Gooseberry

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 335 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Jul 11, 2001 (18:00) * 3 lines
and if you wanna grow it in your backyard, you'll need two seedlings!

rob, i heard that kiwi skin was ok to eat. i've eaten it before, anyway.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 336 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 11, 2001 (19:02) * 1 lines
That furry brown skin is edible? I must get me some Kiwi fruit since it is a close to new Zealand as I can get at the moment. It sounds divine. Oz and its claims! Rob, what did you expect from a bunch of rowdies?! I thought they had invented Peach Melba for Dame Nellie Melba, of toast fame, as well!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 337 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 11, 2001 (19:04) * 1 lines
Horrible could brew something tasty out of just plain crab grass, I think! Do you lads on Eire's sacred soil do clotted cream, too? That is my ultimate decadence!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 338 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 11, 2001 (19:48) * 7 lines
Rob this one is for you. My son took it and you know that it is a parody shot of the truck fleeing Unzen.


Truck Fleeing Mt Hood, Oregon
Photo by David Little
© 2001 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 339 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Jul 11, 2001 (21:08) * 1 lines
ok, the kiwi peel isn't all that tasty! what on earth is clotted cream? (exactly what it sounds like, i figure, so it sounds really gross!)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 340 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 11, 2001 (22:20) * 1 lines
John Burnett, my Hilo buddy, is certain nothing British is consumable. He said just the name was enough to repel him. I shall get the recipe but it is essentially just from very special cows fed on chalk-soil grass which give such reich milk that when left to stand it separates into the top thick layer of clotted cream (like whipped butter in consistancy), regular cream and milk. This stuff is not greasy like our whipped cream - and so delicate in flavor... 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 341 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Jul 12, 2001 (20:05) * 7 lines
For Cheryl, a francophile archaeolgoist I used know, and all the other French fans:

Happy Bastille Day 





 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 342 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, Jul 12, 2001 (20:13) * 1 lines
still sounds gross, luck buttermilk!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 343 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Jul 12, 2001 (22:59) * 1 lines
nonono Help! Where are all the UK folks when I need them?!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 344 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, Jul 15, 2001 (21:33) * 4 lines
this is late but:

Happy Birthday Geo!! 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 345 of 777: _cosmo_  (aa9il) * Sun, Jul 15, 2001 (22:28) * 12 lines
Howdy Howdy

Never too late...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEO!

a most tres cool place to hang out!

73 de aa9il
Mike
r c i 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 346 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Mon, Jul 16, 2001 (02:21) * 7 lines
Hi

HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEO!!!!

Long live one of the coolest conference's around.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 347 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 16, 2001 (15:58) * 1 lines
Big Hugs to you all for celebrating a conference which still amazes me. YOU are the ones who make it what it is - very special, indeed. Each of you gets your own special kind of hug from me because each of you provides a different facet to the gem Geo has become. Some even get sandy beaches for their hugs!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 348 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 16, 2001 (18:38) * 6 lines
Oh, I also need to say something. Lest it be misinterpreted as an ego trip of the most blatant sort, I did not choose the title of this conference. The man who had so much more faith in me than I did in myself and convinced me to do this, did. I assumed there would be only three letters on the cover page of this conference. No graphics. Just G E O

However, he was a most kind man of great wit and wisdom. I am certain he wanted to make it sound a lot less forbidding than just plain GEO implied. I wonder if he is pleased with the mix I have tried to achieve of both scholarly and personal posts. I discovered early on that too many lectures in a row can be deadly dull.

Thus, he surprised me with The Title you see now and he supplied the little world graphic to accompany it. He knew I would never have done anything like that! I hope you do, too. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 349 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 16, 2001 (22:31) * 4 lines
A long way back in the posts, Rob mentioned "I Vow to Thee My Country"
http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/i/i039.html

I am having difficulties finding my Holst recording but the Thaxted music is also lovely as are the words. He does want to see my tears, I think.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 350 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 16, 2001 (22:36) * 1 lines
Let me make this clearer if possible. The music for the poem, "I vow to thee my country" is by Gustav Holst and was called "Thaxted" This is what Hawaiians would call "Chicken Skin Music"

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 351 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 16, 2001 (22:38) * 1 lines
Why do they call it that?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 352 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 17, 2001 (15:34) * 5 lines
Why which? "Thaxted" is the name of the music to which the poem was set, Just as "Old Hundred" is the tune to which the doxology is set.

Why chicken skin? ever seen a chicken just after it is plucked? All the little follicles are sticking up like when we get goose pimples or whatever else you lke to call it. I guess Hawaiians had many more chickens than geese to eat. I rather favorite it if you have to bring a plucked bird into the equation.

I have "Jupiter" blasting my ears off with my teeny digital speakers. It is my favorite, but then, I always go for the pomp and circumstance sort of music at which the British are unexcelled.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 353 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Tue, Jul 17, 2001 (15:48) * 1 lines
What?????????????????/ did you ever listen to the Chieftains or Planxty play some of the old Irish war tunes or tunes by O'Carrolan the blind harpist? Pomp and circumstance AND hair on the back of your neck standing up AND Goose Pimples,and all on simple intruments.Jubiter ,Mars lovely but the Irish War Pipes are something else,even on little digi speakers .Put the earphones on Marcia and turn UP the sound full.oh .I'm listening to Joe Cocker just now.........might as well, my bandwidth is down to 14K so I cant surf or send you nice bits from the web

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 354 of 777: horrible horace  (horrible) * Tue, Jul 17, 2001 (15:49) * 1 lines
sorry that p went upsidedown and became a b

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 355 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 17, 2001 (16:06) * 1 lines
Ah, you hit a most vulnerable part of me. Primal energy from the music which you cite gets me in an entirely different way. Pipes, be they Scots or Irish are like the Sirens' songs and I follow the piper to my doom if necessary. The Chieftans can do no wrong and they can keep me up for the night with fresh blood pounding through my veins. O'Carrolan is new to me but not for long. I also wish I had the name of the long ago gentleman who did his singing of haunting ancient songs of Ireland on National Public Radio last Saturday night. I was bouncing off the walls between him and the rest of the tin whistle, tabor, pipes and singing that went on. Off I go to be edified - I cannot leave your nymph's homework undone.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 356 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 17, 2001 (18:59) * 15 lines
the house troll downloaded this virus and I am about to reformat the hard drive on his laptop as a result. This is a very nasty virus. Beware!
http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/hybris.shtml


Randomly select Subject, Message text and Attach name while sending worm copies
with email messages:

From:
Hahaha

Subjects:
Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
Branca de Neve pornô!
Enanito si, pero con que pedazo!
Les 7 coquir nains

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 357 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Jul 17, 2001 (20:33) * 1 lines
this is real!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 358 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 17, 2001 (21:17) * 10 lines
I've heard this is a vicious one.

http://cai.com has a real good anti-virus program.


http://ca.com/virusinfo/

is their virus information center.



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 359 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 17, 2001 (21:17) * 1 lines
slippage!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 360 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Jul 19, 2001 (16:10) * 1 lines
Rob, you will be happy to know I went to sleep listening to classical music on National Public Radio. During the night they sneaked Holst in on me, and I awoke during my favorite part and murmered "Jupiter" and as I upped the volume I thought of you. Do you plan these little middle of the night reminders? It could not have been better timed!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 361 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 25, 2001 (23:09) * 2 lines
Like spectacular volcano pictures? Please check the ones I posted
http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/2.516

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 362 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Sun, Jul 29, 2001 (14:35) * 1 lines
This is really late: Happy Birthday, Geo!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 363 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jul 29, 2001 (17:47) * 1 lines
Thanks, Cheryl, and *Hugs* You have been an important part of its success. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 364 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Jul 30, 2001 (17:58) * 1 lines
Thank you.*Blush*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 365 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 31, 2001 (15:41) * 1 lines
I think we scared off all the guys. *sigh* Surely we haven't turned over every single rock...!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 366 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 19, 2001 (23:46) * 1 lines
Has anyone else gotten the return mail undeliverable email virus? Don't open those attachments. I haven't and they are premutating before my very eyes. I must have destroyed 50 of them in the last hour.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 367 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Aug 20, 2001 (08:50) * 1 lines
Yep, I get lots of 'em which I nuke off my mail server before they go anywhere like to my Windows mail program. That's why I like reading my mail on a UNIX box first.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 368 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 20, 2001 (17:54) * 1 lines
ahhhh...thanks! I upped my fire wall to the maximum protection and nuked them from my download files and recycle container. They are gone and I assume they are no longer a worry. Have you any idea what is causing them? I heard from a gal in Missouri that she gets them in batches, too. They also nuke them! I can telnet Hawaii on line and get them offine from there. Thanks, Terry. One guy accused me of sending him a virus. I did nothing of the sort, but somehow I seem to have been connected with one of the fake emails.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 369 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Aug 21, 2001 (05:55) * 7 lines
Hi all

Marcia, where can I go to see a picture of the loveliest lady I know on the net??

Hugs from me to you in the spirit of friendship

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 370 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Aug 21, 2001 (05:57) * 5 lines
Hi all

Anyone seen Tora Tora Tora (the older of the two Pearl Harbour movies)as I was wondering what other people think of it and I remembered Marcia saying she would wait until other people saw it and compare notes?

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 371 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 21, 2001 (15:36) * 8 lines
Probably the better of the two movies was Tora Tora Tora, but I had no difficulties with Pearl Harbor other than the somewhat improbable ending. I can remember when both movies were made. The CGI were far superior in Pearl Harbor, but that was because of the quantum leaps in the equipment they had available to recreate the aerial scenes. I am partial to Pearl Harbor only in that in the scenes from above showing the horizon you can see an orange haze band. That is not auto emissions you see, that is downwind of Kilauea, and you are seeing our volcano fumes from 200+ miles (322Km) away! I seem to remember your preferring Tora Tora Tora. Perhaps I need to see it again now that the more recent movie is relatively fresh in my mind. Too bad we cannot sue for reparations. The seem to want to do that every time we turn around!





Here Be I - I thought you had this url... unless you meant some other lady, perhaps? http://tvnight.org/marcia/public%20/Portraits/marcia.jpg
Just don't tell anyone. And, no I don't live like that. I am volunteering for the local university.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 372 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 28, 2001 (22:19) * 60 lines
I had no idea where this belonged, but where I wanted to put this in the Food conference I was told the topic was frozen. So here it goes:

Erupting Volcano Cake

6 ea 8" baked round cakes
Brown & green Frosting
1 Fresh egg w/shell scrubbed
1 sm Juice glass or 1 1/2 Inch cookie cutter
2 - 3 drops red food color
1 1/2 ts Sugar
1/4 lb Dry ice
Aluminum foil
1 - 2 oz hot tap water

Make six 8" round cakes using your favorite mix or buy cakes from a bakery.

Buy two or three dollars worth of dry ice from an ice cream store the day you will need it. Keep the
dry ice in freezer. Be sure to handle the dry ice with gloves or tongs just to be safe. If your ice
cream store doesn't have dry ice just look in your local Yellow Pages telephone directory under
"Dry Ice".

Now use your juice glass or cookie cutter and cut out a hole in the center or the top two layers of
cake. This hole will form a well in the center of the cake and hide the special effect.

Now construct the Volcano cake, round pyramid style, on a cake platter or large dish. Trim each
layer into seccessively smaller rounds and stack and frost them into mountain shape using the last
two layers with the holes as its top.

With a small piece of aluminum foil, line the well in the center of the volcano cake. Use the juice
glass as a mold and form foil around the glass.

Now frost the cake, smoothing out the small step-like ledges. Use chocolate frosting for the whole
cake first. Then use green frosting as highlights around the mountain to resemble vegetation.

When you are ready to serve the cake, make the "lava". Separate the cleaned egg and discard the
yolk. Put the egg white in a small mixing bowl with 1 1/2 teaspoons sugar and 2-3 drops red food
coloring. Beat until the egg white starts to thicken. You don't want stiff peaks to form, just a thick,
foamy texture.

Now place two or three small chunks of the dry ice into the foil-lined well of the cake and pour in
the red egg mixture. Nothing much will happen yet. Now fill your juice glass with hot tap water and
take the Volcano Cake and water to the table where yyour guests are. When you are ready to
produce the Special Effect, simply pour one or two ounces of the hot water into the egg and dry ice
mixture and your realistic Volcano Cake will erupt large quantities or orange, foamy "lava" and
white "smoke" for several minutes while you serve your delighted guests pieces of genuine
Erupting Volcano Cake.

Alternate Foam Generating Technique: If you can't find dry ice in your area, you can still produce
the foaming "Lava" effect. There will be no smoke, but you will have plenty of foamy lava. You will
need a small, short juice glass or a shot glass that will fit snugly in the center of the Volcano Cake
(a glass 3" tall and 1 1/2" in diameter would be perfect). You will also need one small box of Jell-o,
one small bottle lemon juice and 1 tablespoon of bicarbonate of soda. Make Jell-o according to
package directions. Let cool 15 minutes. When jello is still (not hot), fill juice glass 1/2 full with the
warm jello. Pour in enough lemon juice so that the glass is almost full, or about 1/2" from the top.
Place glass down into hole in the cake so lip of glass is flush with top of cake. You are now ready
to produce the effect. When ready, put 1 tablespoon of bicarbonate of soda into the glass and
briefly stir (1-2 seconds). Jello foam will immediately pour out the top of the glass and flow down
the sides of the cake.

from http://www.runet.edu/~cpf-clb/evc.html

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 373 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Fri, Sep  7, 2001 (20:37) * 1 lines
i saw an older pearl harbor movie too (on tv) and i liked it. but i don't remember the name of it.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 374 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Sep  7, 2001 (23:10) * 1 lines
Hmmmm I'll check. I'll bet the waterfront looked different in the "old days." Honolulu has changed a huge amount. I imagine they avoided live over-head shots as they did for the recent Pearl Harbor. Nothing like sinking the USS Arizona and seeing her memorial in the next sequence. People who live here look for things like that!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 375 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, Sep  9, 2001 (11:34) * 1 lines
this picture was in color and it seemed to be focused on a forbidden love between a caucasian soldier and an asian lady.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 376 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Sep  9, 2001 (19:00) * 1 lines
Forbidden?! Perhaps back then, but it is commonplace now, and I know their resulting children my age. Handsome and elegant, they are most attractive as adults and adorable as children. That is what most visitors mistake as Hawaiian (me included when I first moved here!)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 377 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, Sep  9, 2001 (20:47) * 1 lines
well, it did appear, in the film, that the parents of the girl were dead set against her being in love with this man.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 378 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Sep  9, 2001 (21:23) * 1 lines
Yup! Oddly enough it is not the Caucasians who protest as much as the still very insular Oriental population whose ancestors have been in America longer than mine have been. At least, in Hawaii this is the case. Remember the guy I know from Califoria with the neat car? He is "hapa Japa" as we say here (and he does, too) which means hapa (half in Hawaiian) + Japa (rhyming shorthand for Japanese) They make very handsome men - tall and exotic!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 379 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Sep 10, 2001 (19:14) * 1 lines
yes, i know the one *wink*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 380 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 10, 2001 (20:23) * 1 lines
*smile* thought you might...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 381 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (05:46) * 12 lines
Hi

I cordially invite Wolfie and anyone else who has not yet joined my Yahoo Clubs
to do so:

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/worldseismicity
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/worldvolcanism (Marcia is co-founder)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/World_Volcanism (Marcia is co-moderator)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/World_Seismicity

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 382 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Sep 11, 2001 (13:24) * 1 lines
Yes, Please do join - just to read Rob's magnificent prose. He has posted several outstanding articles and I refuse to post them here since it would take away from the visits to his club and group. Please join us! You won't be sorry!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 383 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (01:53) * 5 lines
Hi

Yesterday, September 11, 2001, a day that will live in infamy, the United States was SUDDENLY and DELIBRATELY attacked by faceless terrorists. These cowards have attacked one of the founding principles of democracy - FREEDOM - and in doing so have demonstrated mans inhumanity to man. The events in Washington and New York speak for themselves. Just after the business day began a 767 jet was slammed into one of the twin towers of the World Trade Centre, and it was followed suit shortly after by a 757 jet. These outrageous and cowardly acts of wanton violence must not go unpunished but when the time comes for justice, the cool head of a professional and not a hot-headed maniac must prevail.

Rob 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 384 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Sep 12, 2001 (18:21) * 1 lines
Calm and steely determination shall prevail. We are angered, but to a man (or woman) we are determined to see this through and the threat of these maniacs removed from the world. If earthquakes and volcanoes and hurricanes were not enough, the fanatics need headline-grabbing destruction to make their points. That they are sick or reading their holy books backward is no longer acceptable. If you watched closely yesterday, there was no political grandstanding. To a person, we were united as Americans and we WILL see this through to completion. Thanks, Rob. *Hugs* for caring!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 385 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (03:50) * 5 lines
Hi

Why then do so many Americans want war??? Most people in the clubs that I have spoken to would not hear of my plea for a level headed response, and just wanted to bomb someone.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 386 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (15:07) * 5 lines
We have done much level-headed stuff, like only half job of Libya in Desert Storm. Do you not think they gained comfort and solace from the fact that we are so peace-loving? We will not kill the innocent, but, this time, WE THE PEOPLE insist that the entire group of world menacing Holy War fanatics be removed. If we do not do it, how about sacrificing 20,000 of Christchurch's finest? I think that is as abhorrent to you as is this act of war we are living through. You get mail daily, fresh food, you can leave your island. I cannot get any of these things. Odd how MY civil rights have been taken away for the greater public good, yet you worry about evil men with an agenda to kill every last "infidel" on the planet. I think you are included. Are you willing to be a sacrifice to the supposed God of Islam? I rather thought we all had the same God!!!

Rob, No one wants war who is in his right mind. NO ONE wants to give up the lives of his children to fight these people who do not value life. What do you suggest? How many more than 20,000 have to die in sneak attacks before you get angry? Not hysterical, just plain cold clear-eyed determined angry.

*Hugs* Pray for us all. This is not going to be just a war with America.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 387 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (15:09) * 43 lines
Our innocence is over.

The official word from the FAA about the new airport security procedures is
as follows:


Increased passenger and baggage security screenings at all airports.
Passengers should plan to arrive at the
airport a MINIMUM OF TWO HOURS prior to departure.

Passengers must check their luggage at the ticket counter, no curbside
check-in allowed.

Only passengers holding an electronic ticket receipt, travel agency
itinerary, airline ticket card, boarding document, internet printout or
paper ticket will be allowed past the security check point. Passengers
without
receipts of any sort will need to stand in line at the airport
ticket counters to obtain a receipt. (You may also
contact TI and they will mail, fax or email a receipt to you prior
to departing to the airport)

Aircraft and airport security sweeps similar to those conducted during
the Persian Gulf war. Vehicles will be inspected at terminal parking
entrances.

Unattended vehicles are banned near the terminals and will be towed.

No knives of any size, or made from any material, are permitted on
flights. The sale of knifelike items has
been banned at all airports.

Heightened vigilance for unattended bags.

Searches of aircraft cargo and passenger compartments.

An increase in number of uniformed law enforcement and military
personnel.

Random searches of service personal, flight crews and equipment.

Reduces access points to secure areas at airports. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 388 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (20:11) * 3 lines
Rob, thank you for your invititation to the yahoo clubs. i will try to visit them as soon as i can!

*HUGS*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 389 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (21:19) * 3 lines
Hi Wolfie, be safe! and take care. I worry about you!

Rob, too... =) *Hugs en masse*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 390 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (22:25) * 7 lines
Hi all

My comments have been badly misinterpreted.

I honestly don't care a hang about the faceless cowards, except that they lose their faces for this. Marcia, I have utterly NO problem with justice or retribution, I just don't want innocent bystanders hit. Some people did not seem to care who got hit, they just wanted to flatten someone for the world to see. Get justice by all means but just make sure that the people or organisations that you punish, are in the two parties that Bush said no distinction will be made between: The planners, and those who harboured the cowards.

Rob 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 391 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Sep 13, 2001 (22:59) * 2 lines
Rob, I'm sorry for reacting with unusual passion and unthinking reflex to your statement. I realize you are a just man and are the most gentle man I have ever met. The last thing the Americans want to a person is to harm innocent people. That would put us in the same category as our enemy. Beneath contempt. Governments fight governments. I pity the military which gets mixed in to this coming storm. You're right. Without exception the most vile retributions I have read are on Yahoo. Check Geo 55. Terry created it even before I was awake and aware of the tragedy. It has been, without exception, a class and even-handed discussion. Happily, the wild-eyed radicals do not have their fingers on the power buttons in the United States. The President is just one man, as was stated so well on Geo 55. He has advisors, consults then lets the leaders and specialist do their job and gets out of their way. I trust our leaders. Colin Powell knows all too well what is at risk! So do The President's advisors. I th
nk with all my heart we will do the right thing. It is not going to be easy, and innocent people always get hurt in any war, but there already have been innocent victime. We do not honor their memory by killing other mothers and daughters, fathers and sons. *Hugs* Rob I appreciate your compassion and concern. Am I forgiven?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 392 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Sep 22, 2001 (17:48) * 6 lines
For Maria and Thanasis who were married today in a lovely little chapel on a mountain in Greece, and to the Father of the Bride, my warmest affections for a long and happy life.


Aloha and a World of Love 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 393 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sun, Sep 23, 2001 (23:01) * 4 lines
Thank you Marcia,
This is great moment for parents and for new pair. I am happy and touched. It was an inimitable marriage. It wills was unforgettable to all of the guests. Now, Maria and Thanasis they left with a yacht ship, medium size, for the marriage travel in Aegean Sea.
David and Iris will continue. My best compliments you and for your son.
John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 394 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 24, 2001 (14:10) * 1 lines
My delight that all went as planned, and that your weather was good is happy news, indeed. Fathers of daughters are the ones I hold in my heart. My dad had three of us - I was the youngest and last to marry. I think, by that time he was happy to have some peace and quiet in his home. *Hugs* For your new status as Father-in-law. You will be a hard act to follow, as we say! 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 395 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Oct  8, 2001 (14:05) * 8 lines
HAPPY DISCOVERER'S DAY - COLUMBUS DAY, AMERICA



HAPPY THANKSGIVING, CANADA 




 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 396 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Oct 15, 2001 (18:20) * 7 lines


For David and Iris

Best wishes for a Long and Happy Marriage

From Geo's Hostess With Love 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 397 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (02:07) * 6 lines
Hi all

Best wishes for a long and prosperous marriage, David and Iris.
From Geo's Kiwi connection, with great respect,

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 398 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (14:13) * 1 lines
Thanks Rob... I'll forward the happy couple your best wishes. Fellow geologists and all that... and I get to stuff my pockets with rocks again! Wheee!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 399 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (18:01) * 3 lines
My very best wishes to Iris and David. May they have a long and happy marriage. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 400 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 16, 2001 (20:45) * 1 lines
*smile* He is getting better response that he is in real life! I told him to check in to see his and his bride's best wishes from the best people on earth - the people who really make Geo special! Hugs, Cheryl... thanks!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 401 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Wed, Oct 17, 2001 (00:48) * 7 lines
Hi all

Marcia, when you eventually get round to coming here I will show you something unusual. On the West Coast just in a paddock near Springs Junction there is a low concrete wall. Does not sound like anything much and you are probably rightly wondering why in heck I want to show you a concrete wall less than a metre high, but to seismologists it is VERY VERY IMPORTANT. It crosses the Alpine Fault and is supposed to be used as a marker to indicate how much that strike-slip component is moved when that segment of faultline next ruptures. Other strange things to show you might include the water storage dams at Karori in Wellington. The reservoirs behind them are actually classic sag ponds that formed on the Wellington Fault. If David inquires about New Zealand and NZ seismic/volcanic features, give him my e-mail.

I have my Geog202 (Human Geography)exam (all 3 hours of it)on the day you return, so nothing is likely to be sent that day, but I will hopefully have contact with you the following day. I have two exams on November 3 and they both last 3 hours. Don't ICQ me that night because I probably will not want to talk (just thinking about it makes me yawn). The following day is the first day of FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob

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 Response 402 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Fri, Oct 19, 2001 (13:05) * 3 lines 
 




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 Response 403 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Oct 19, 2001 (15:28) * 2 lines
Thank you, John! Your incredibly beautiful wishes for David and Iris are appreciated from the depths of my heart. Your thoughts echo mine, as always...
*Hugs* for being so thoughtful.

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 Response 404 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sat, Oct 20, 2001 (06:35) * 7 lines
My heartfelt wishes to the very capable mother of David for his marriage. Marcia, in Greece we say:
ÍÁ ĹÉÓÔĹ ĘÁËÁ ĘÁÉ ÍÁ ÔĎŐÓ ×ÁÉŃĹÓÔĹ!

That means:
BE YOU WELL AND REJOICE THEM! 




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 Response 405 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Oct 20, 2001 (21:50) * 3 lines
*Beaming Smiles* Thank you, John! My happiness is in my son's good fortune. My soon-to-be-daughter emailed me her assurance that if it were in her power, she would spend her life sharing her love and happiness with him. I know she will. They are very good, together. They also love geology and astronomy. How can they miss?! Oh, and they like to share their adventures with me and take me with them when they explore. I am the happiest of mothers on this occasion. I could not have found a better match.

May all your thoughtful and kind wishes for David and Iris also be true for Maria and Thanasis, your echanting daughter and her new husband. I wish them an eternity of love and happiness and security in a peaceful world.

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 Response 406 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, Oct 21, 2001 (18:19) * 17 lines
Hi all

Marriage celebrant: You may kiss the bride

THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE

Marriage celebrant: I now pronounce you Mr and Mrs Little

THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE

At the time of writing this Marcia and the newlyweds plus the guests will be basking in the glory of the occasion having witnessed something of great beauty and great enjoyment. On a glorious day Mother Nature comes to the party with sunshine and blessings.

I propose a toast to Marcia, David and Iris on what is hopefully gloriously beautiful day in California, on David and Iris's successful marriage and Marcia witnessing the proceedings.

Rainbows and sunshine

Rob

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 Response 407 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 21, 2001 (21:28) * 5 lines
The Mother of the Groom proposes a toast to all friends of Geo both with us in person and to those who live in our hearts, Cheers, Health and Happiness to all.

Mr and Mrs Little have embarked safely on their honeymoon. The Mother of the Groom is ecstatic! The Bride was stunning and her husband was stunned. Joy abounds. They are off to discover one another and the geology of the SouthWestern United States. Tonight there are Meteor showers and aurora to be observed. Some how I suspect they won't notice.

Many thanks Rob and John and all who wish them a long and happy marriage.

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 Response 408 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 21, 2001 (22:37) * 3 lines
All's well. I've heard from The Happy Couple. They have arrived at their destination for the night.

Sweet Dreams, everyone!

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 Response 409 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Oct 22, 2001 (09:37) * 1 lines
Great news, marci, glad it's going well and best wishes to the newlyweds.

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 Response 410 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 23, 2001 (14:46) * 1 lines
*Smile* May thanks, Terry! I had a digital camera image in my hot little hands within a hour of the occasion. My joy runneth over.

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 Response 411 of 777: Moon Dreams  (Moon) * Tue, Oct 23, 2001 (15:33) * 1 lines
Marcia, so glad the wedding went well. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Are you back in Hawaii?

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 Response 412 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 23, 2001 (18:37) * 1 lines
I am in Hawaii, fighting various germs. To protect the innocent, check your email! 

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 Response 413 of 777: Moon Dreams  (Moon) * Wed, Oct 24, 2001 (07:37) * 1 lines
I just emailed you. :-( I hope you will get better soon.

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 Response 414 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Oct 24, 2001 (16:03) * 3 lines
*Sigh* I am much improved, Thank you! I managed to aggravate my latent Carpal Tunnel problems so I will spend more time out flat on a board or the floor till it heals a bit more. I wonder what gods I offended. They have my attention!!!

Thanks Moon, and *HUGS* for your concern. I can read whilst I lie down =)

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 Response 415 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 30, 2001 (18:27) * 31 lines
Happy Pride of OXI Day

I missed posting this because I could not find my way to do it, but thanks to Terry, and in honor of my restored ftp abilities, I post John's borrowed Greek Flag:





THE PRIDE OF OXI DAY
October 28th

By Gary Van Haas

The magnificent Greek holiday Oxi Day is celebrated every year in
Greece on October 28th and mostly remembered for general Ioannis
Metaxas' strong reply of 'oxi' (no) to Mussolini's request to allow
Italian troops to come into Greece at the beginning of WW II. The
result of this stern message was powerful, and in the end, helped to
maintain Greece’s course of neutrality for generations to come.
Nevertheless, the Italians did invade Greece, but were subsequently
driven back into Albania.

The story begins in 1935, when King George II was restored to the
Greek throne by a rigged plebiscite, where he made the right-wing
general Ioannis Metaxas prime minister. Nine months later, Metaxas
assumed dictatorial powers with the king’s consent under the
pretext of preventing a communist-inspired republican coup. The
October 28 national holiday also marks the date in 1940 when
Greece entered WWII.

more... http://www.gogreece.com/learn/oxi.htm

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 Response 416 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Wed, Oct 31, 2001 (00:21) * 5 lines
Hi all

It has been a shaky month for New Zealand with at least 9 magnitude 4 earthquakes, 4 mag. 5's and at least 1 mag. 6. A bit on the up side would not you say?? I am grateful however because the faultlines that generated them are not up to anything more sinister.

Rob 

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 Response 417 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Oct 31, 2001 (21:58) * 3 lines
Rob, I am hoping your faults are "ooching" along easing the strain and possibility of a greater quake. Perhaps the 7.0 in PNG has also eased some of the strain in your general area of the world. Indonesia is very active lately.

Be safe! No jumping up and down on Taupo! (Btw, no joy using ICQ)

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 Response 418 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Nov  5, 2001 (19:59) * 3 lines
now how did i miss this celebration?

may God bless your marriage, Iris and David! be happy and tolerant to one another!!! *HUGS AND LOVE*

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 Response 419 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Nov  5, 2001 (20:17) * 1 lines
Thanks!!! The celebration was extended to his mother by the happy groom on his commute home last week. We talked for an hour as he rounded one end of San Francisco Bay. I felt much better when he got over bridges and, coastal range of mountains and parked his car in the garage next to his condo. You've all been splendid. I'll post the url for their best picture shortly.

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 Response 420 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Nov  5, 2001 (20:18) * 1 lines
Thanks, Wolfie! I'll be deligted to deliver your hugs and best wishes as soon as I see them. Happy me! *HUGS* back, I am sure of that!

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 Response 421 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Nov  5, 2001 (20:21) * 1 lines
Wolfie, you missed it because you were moving from mansion overlooking the alligators and Cajuns to the view of the Pacific and the Altered State of SoCal. We toasted you as well as others dear and far from us but close to our hearts!

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 Response 422 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Nov  5, 2001 (21:31) * 1 lines
thanks!

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 Response 423 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, Nov  6, 2001 (05:35) * 7 lines
Hi,
Rob, You had an order of EQ’s with increasing magnitude last month. This, does not mean anything more from a process of Nature. It should we have tools and the knowledge in order to translate Nature’s intentions. My opinion is that statistics are very bad translator of natural phenomena but very good assistant in this attempt.
Thank you for your invitation to the yahoo World Seismicity club. I can’t to accept this invitation now because I am very busy with my work this period, and my inquiry is running 24 hours per day. I am sorry. Surely you have seen the result of our inquiry for Skyros EQ in Greece last July. If not, I have posted them in GEO 9 too. What is your opinion?

Regards to all from Greece.
John 


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 Response 424 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, Nov  6, 2001 (16:37) * 3 lines
Marcia, glad to hear that the wedding was beautiful. The mother of the groom was equally as radiant, no doubt. Best wishes to Iris and David, may they have a long and happy life together.

I hope that you're feeling better and that the weather gets a little less soggy there near Hilo. At least, the orchids are thriving. Hopefully very soon you'll be fully thriving yourself.

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 Response 425 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Nov  6, 2001 (19:24) * 4 lines
Thanks, Dear! I am thriving once again and so are my plants. The sun is brilliant today and I am searching for satellites to watch tonight on Heavens Above or various other services such as http://www.satobs.org/
Happy hunting.

The mother of the Groom blooms best when she visits singularly and treks off into the Sierra to see the great Sequoia and, now, their new telescope. *sigh* The Pacific seems terribly wide at times such as this...

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 Response 426 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Nov 10, 2001 (16:20) * 6 lines
Rob!!! YOU WON!!! Canterbury (Dark red and black) beat Otago in Canterbury and I got to watch! Whoopee!!! Congratulations on the Rugby Championship! One hopes they might show a bit of Cricket in season.

Btw, Rugby resembles a tarantula moving on the ground...then one finds a oviod that runs off with it. The tarantula breaks apart and chases the runner... No one can stand up long playing rugby. They keep falling down in longs strings. It looks rather like they have not learned to run. Like a little child who falls down a lot. There was a lot of kicking and tackling too.

Happy celebrations!! 


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 Response 427 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, Dec  4, 2001 (02:34) * 4 lines
I wonder in which topic we can discuss about the umbilical cord of life. One end is our life but the other end is the ACTIVE SUN. Have you become conscious about of how many things we make every day, which is crunching this umbilical cord step by step?

Where can appertain this issue? (It contains life, Earth’s procedures, Sun’s procedures, near space weather and our foolishness).
John

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 Response 428 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec  4, 2001 (13:24) * 3 lines
For a while we were discussing it in Mike's topic, Geo 35. I get many things I post in topic 35 along with much other space news. I suggest that be one of your first topics to create when you have time. Surely the sun which allows our life to exist deserves its own topic! And, NO, we don't have too many copics! I can always kill a few created by "drive-by" creators.

Speaking of which, anything new happening on that Alcoa problem dumping waste water into your water supply, Terry?

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 Response 429 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec  4, 2001 (17:53) * 29 lines
Thanks to Bob Shannon for this
pinpoint@yahoogroups.com

ISSAQUAH, Wash. - An 8-year-old is credited with using the Heimlich maneuver to save his teacher when she choked on a cough drop - and the boy says he was ready to perform an emergency tracheotomy with a pen knife if the Heimlich didn't work.


It's not that Austin Rosedale has had any special training.

The third-grader at Sunny Hills Elementary in this east Seattle suburb learned the techniques, along with the basics of cardiopulmonary resuscitation, from diagrams on his mother's day-planner calendar.

He was prepared when his computer science teacher, Charisse Precht, choked on a cough drop Friday.

"She tried to do the Heimlich to herself, but it didn't work," Austin said told the Eastside Journal on Monday. "So I did it for her. I learned it from a Day-Timer. I didn't see anybody do it. I just read it."

Precht had just finished writing a computer code on a white board in the computer lab when she took a cough drop and it got stuck in her throat.

She says all she could do was mouth the word "help" and point to her throat. She tried pounding on her diaphragm with her fists, but the cough drop wouldn't budge.

Dizzy, she dropped to her knees.

"When you can't breathe, it's very terrifying," Precht said. "Someone yelled I was having a heart attack; someone else said it was a stroke. But Austin knew exactly what to do."

As other children ran for help, Austin stepped behind his teacher, wrapped his arms around her chest and squeezed.

On his second try, he cleared Precht's air passage.

Austin, who weighs barely 60 pounds, said he must've had a rush of adrenaline to give him the strength to dislodge the cough drop.

Precht said she's grateful the maneuver worked - and that Austin didn't have to try penknife surgery. 

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 Response 430 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Dec  4, 2001 (21:08) * 3 lines
this needs to go in our good news topic in news!!! way to go Austin!!!!!

(and, btw, to perform the heimlich on yourself, you need a chair at stomach height-the edge of a counter would work too)

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 Response 431 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec  4, 2001 (22:47) * 1 lines
Any firm stomach-height surface for Heimlich will do - thrust up under ribcage. it may take twice. So, go to it right away. Austin is my hero! I'll definitely post this in good news!!! Thanks for the suggestion, Wolfie!

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 Response 432 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec  6, 2001 (19:51) * 5 lines
In Memory of Those Who Died, 7 December 1941 





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 Response 433 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Fri, Dec  7, 2001 (18:49) * 1 lines
where did you find that half-mast flag?

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 Response 434 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec  7, 2001 (19:17) * 4 lines
In searched for it. It also had a black background or white. I chose the transparent one.
http://www.animfactory.com/af_holiday_events_memorial_day_variant_page_US_flag_half_mast.html 



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 Response 435 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sat, Dec  8, 2001 (16:07) * 1 lines
thanks!

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 Response 436 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, Dec  9, 2001 (03:42) * 8 lines
Hi all

On Friday December 7, New Zealand woke to some SHOCKING news. Our finest sailor, environmentalist and role model, a man of great standing and integrity, Sir Peter Blake was gunned down by pirates in the Amazon River catchment near Macapa. Sir Peter Blake was the architect of two NZ America's Cup victories and sailed in five Whitbread, and he taught New Zealanders to love their marine environment. He was the instigator of the red socks campaign and a wave of patriotism swept the country. Rule New Zealand, New Zealand rule the waves.

A true conservationist, sailor, sportsman, role model and a great Kiwi.

Rob 


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 Response 437 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec  9, 2001 (14:30) * 2 lines
My sympathies on the loss of Sir Peter Blake. I was looking for you on IM to express condolences before I put it here. He will be greatly missed! *Hugs*
(Even if he did take away our Auld Mug)

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 Response 438 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec  9, 2001 (15:55) * 3 lines
Wolfie, Need any little adorable angels on one of your websites? I tired putting them on springark but I was not able to do so. I think I like the big ones best! *Hugs* of thanks to John for decorating my geobars with such lovely things. I guess music would make things too difficult... 



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 Response 439 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec  9, 2001 (16:00) * 1 lines
We seem to have a problem. Too many things going on. When I installed the new bars the globe disappeared on both netscape and on internet explorer. I'll return to the plain bars. John, can you remove the bells?? When I tried, I lost color on the bar. Thank you, though. I love these little angel-spirits !

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 Response 440 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec  9, 2001 (16:08) * 2 lines
I changed the location of the wire globe and did not adjust the programming. All is well again! Thank you for the lovely bars, John. You have decorated Geo most splendidly this holiday Season. My thanks could never be sufficient, but if you have several lifetimes, I'd be happy to try to show my gratitude! 


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 Response 441 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec  9, 2001 (16:12) * 1 lines
ROB!!! You said nothing of your earthquakes. Anything happening that we should know about?

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 Response 442 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, Dec  9, 2001 (22:34) * 3 lines
marcia, are these the bars you sent me via email? i couldn't make them out at all. the files came up black on my screen. (i'll answer all your emails soon, sorry for taking so long!!)

and yes, the little fairies are so cute!

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 Response 443 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Mon, Dec 10, 2001 (06:30) * 1 lines
Yup, clever and cute.

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 Response 444 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Mon, Dec 10, 2001 (09:28) * 3 lines
Very festive, the angels and the animated bells!

Down periscope.

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 Response 445 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 10, 2001 (14:59) * 5 lines
Hi Terry! Hello Maggie!

Thank John for adding the bells and angels to my horizontal bars. Geo will be very plain without them. Now I think I will need festivity for every time of the year. Actually, these bells remind me of my collection of bronze bells ( little ones) which I get out each Christmas. This year the termites got to the box I had them stored in and... well, they looked like that when I shook them out and listened to each one! Another joy of living in Paradise...

Wolfie, I know you are busy and stressed. No need to answer my email.

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 Response 446 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Mon, Dec 10, 2001 (15:25) * 1 lines
Marcia can you try yahoo again .. or AOL

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 Response 447 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 10, 2001 (17:42) * 1 lines
I'll try Yahoo. Did not know you were on AOL. Email me your login name, please!

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 Response 448 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (01:26) * 10 lines
Hi all

Marcia: This year the termites got to the box I had them stored in and... well, they looked like that when I shook them out and listened to each one!

Rob: Beats having a White-tailed spider running around in there. Nasty things with a growing reputation as being hard to kill and having a painful post bite infection.


I ignored the earthquakes because there was not much to report and the earthquake whilst being a good size was miles from anywhere of significance.

Rob

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 Response 449 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (13:31) * 15 lines
Small earthquakes are a GOOD thing generally. Here they are, in any case. Many little adjustments to the earth are far more desirable than one big jolt and the resulting aftershocks.

White-tailed spiders? *Shudder* How big is this hunting spider? We have huge ones here but they are non-toxic and only give people like me heart attacks when I happen on one in my house

White tailed spiders are found in most areas of Australia, and are common in
urban dwellings. They are readily identifiable by their cylindrical body shape and
the presence of a white or grey spot on the end on their abdomen. They are
active hunters, preying upon other types of spiders, and may be found roaming
inside houses, especially in warmer weather. White tailed spiders have been
implicated in some cases of Necrotising Arachnidism (skin breakdown or
ulceration following spider bites). The incidence of ulceration or necrosis
following white tailed spider bite is not known. The majority of cases appear not
to develop ongoing ulceration, although blisters and redness are common.

http://www.pharmacology.unimelb.edu.au/pharmwww/avruweb/wtspage.htm

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 Response 450 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (17:30) * 5 lines
Hi all

White-tails are the size of a New Zealand 50 cent piece. They hunt so they don't need webs and can run fairly fast. They also swim, so make sure any White-tail you flush down the toilet is D E A D. The reputation may be exaggerated but certainly the stories I have heard are not. A woman puts her bra on and gets bitten. She goes to the doctor after the infected area begins swelling and is told that the bite was not the problem but a post bite infection. If a White-tail can be called a rattle snake, any discussion of animal rights tends to die when one is found.

Rob

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 Response 451 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (18:06) * 4 lines
This reminds me of Arizona and scorpions (and recluse spiders). Dump your boots or shoes before putting them on. Shake your clothes! Be aware of your surroundings. They are innocent of intent. YOU built your house on THEIR property. What else did you expect? Allergies to insect and arachnid toxins are always a worry.

A good site I found on the White-tailed spider:
http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/facts/1999/pets/whitetailedsp_24.html

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 Response 452 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (18:23) * 2 lines
Yuk ... dont like spiedrs ... EEEK!
Giggle

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 Response 453 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (19:16) * 1 lines
Me either. Far more legs than necessary. I was once told by a biologist to think of them as 8-legged gekkos (we have gekkos and they are so cute!) Didn't work. Apparently, neither did it for him. I found him chasing one not long after and rebounding in horror when it pounced on him. Our cane spiders are large wolf spiders which hunt for their food. The can be 4-5 inches across with fur on them enough to make a coat! No amount of imagination works for them. happily they do not come inside the house any longer.

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 Response 454 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (19:19) * 1 lines
Ever get closed into a glass-doored shower with a 3 inch flying cockroach? That was unnerving enough to make me look very carefully before entering any constricing space. Eeeeeek!!!

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 Response 455 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (19:20) * 1 lines
.....when it hit me, it is the only time I can remember hearing myself scream. No one else did, unfortunately...

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 Response 456 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (21:01) * 5 lines
yikes!!

the letters are yellow again!! (and my r's are sticking)

marcia, did you attach the stars to the email you sent me?

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 Response 457 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (21:11) * 9 lines
No...don't worry about looking at the stars. I just sent you the url for you to save for anything you might wish to decorate.

Yes, I put the yellow text back to match the bells and the angels.
Yikes?? Which do you like better?

Hmmm... what did you do to your R's that it is sticking?! =) 




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 Response 458 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (17:26) * 8 lines
Hi all

Julie may visit Geo later, for she tells me she book marked Marcia's page. I told her that there is volcanology, seismology, geophysics, archaeology, petrology, mineralology etc are all here, and she said "Cool!" Julie's main interests are volcanoes and earthquakes, but she also has a keen interest in weather phenomena and astronomy. She understands the earthquake risk as well as
Sandi Harrington (World Seismicity's resident seismologist).

Wolfie, Julie lives close by in Santa Ana.

Rob 

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 Response 459 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (17:33) * 4 lines
Thanks Rob!! Julie is most welcome and we can always used another volcanophile to keep us company. Julie's interests sound as eclectic as mine. I'll be delighted if she posts!


We're celebrating the season's festivities on Geo 50. Tell us your traditions, there. I've put up a bunch already.

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 Response 460 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (19:51) * 3 lines
hi julie! maybe you can decrease any anxiety i have about earthquakes in this area!

marcia, my email was empty--no words, no hyperlinks, just what was in the subject line! (i don't know how to unstick my keyboard)

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 Response 461 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (22:13) * 1 lines
Oops!!! I'll check with cyber-geniuses John and David if this problem persists. How inconvenient!!!

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 Response 462 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, Dec 13, 2001 (19:57) * 1 lines
i love that star! were the trees there before? (the r's aren't sticking too bad today)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 463 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 13, 2001 (20:38) * 1 lines
Thank you about the star. I had a bunch to choose from and if you were very quick you saw some of them as I tried it out and then discarded them for one reason or another. Do you think it is too big??? I can make it slightly smaller or even a whole lot smaller. *Testing*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 464 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (17:53) * 1 lines
i like it and now the world is back and santa is gone with a blinking garland. i like the garland!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 465 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (19:16) * 1 lines
I put the more icy background up which we had before so it looked frosty. The parchment is pretty too. I love that garland. Much better! I also like the globe again. I thought it would be too clutteredm, but John convinced me to try. I like it!!! I'll miss the decorations when I have to take them down - just as in the real world. *Hugs* Wolfie! Happy Holidays!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 466 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, Dec 18, 2001 (09:43) * 6 lines
Hi all,
A wave of bad weather has hit the entire Greece. Especially Magnesia and Volos are absolutely white. The snow is more than 20 centimeters deep outside of my house, and the temperature is –2 degrees. I notice that my house is near the sea. The snow is more than 3 meters deep on Mt. Pelion. Schools cannot work today in the most of the Greek areas. Last time when we had so much snow was in the year 1987.

Warm greetings from the icy Greece
John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 467 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 18, 2001 (09:57) * 1 lines
See travel hawaii topic for buoy temperatures at various beaches.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 468 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 19, 2001 (22:30) * 3 lines
Buoy temps? They use them for predicting tsunami and high surf. I did not realize they also had temperature gauges. Right now I would love to share some of this warmth with a cold snowy white place. Somehow, I cannot imagine snow on the marble monuments of Greece.

Be safe John! I need you...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 469 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 19, 2001 (22:37) * 1 lines
Snowflake is found!!! Going to check Hawaii...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 470 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (15:57) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 471 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (02:33) * 5 lines
Hi all

How are we all in the final days running up to Christmas and New Year?? Xmas shopping has barely started here for us as we have still to celebrate Dads birthday and even though it is tomorrow some people (namely my brother Craig)at the time of writing this had not gotten him a birthday present. I am not expecting much at all for Xmas and said to Mum " box of scorched almonds (coated in chocolate)will do just fine if you cannot find anything." I have done my Xmas present shopping for Mum and there is just Craig to go.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 472 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (08:09) * 9 lines
Hi All

Running up to Christmas and to New Year, I wish you Peace, Love, and Security. Give your gifts, enjoy your gifts and share your happiness with your beloved persons.

(Music from the Greek Islands)

With warm greetings under a new strong snowstorm on the icy Greece.

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 473 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (17:21) * 7 lines
Mele Kalikimaka a me Hau'oli Makahiki Hou


I wish for all creatures Peace and Love and Contentment with the bounty we all share. Hug a friend and welcome him into your heart, again. Let him know how important he is in your life. (This goes for women, too) Most of all, share and make new friends - especially those who might be friendless.

From the warmth of my heart and the tropical climate of Hawaii, I send my love. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 474 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (17:25) * 1 lines
Lovely Music, John! There are no specifically Hawaiian Christams songs which are not just for children. I will look!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 475 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (18:11) * 89 lines
*Sigh* I am still looking for decent Hawaiian midi music. Until then, some traditional foods for those attending a lu'au and not having Turkey:




The Hawaiians didn't celebrate Christmas prior to the arrival of Europeans, but it was during this same time of the
year that they traditionally honored the earth for giving them plenty to eat. This period of resting and feasting was
called Makahiki (mah-kah-HEE- kee). It lasted for 4 months, and no wars or conflicts were allowed during this time.
Because makahiki also means "year", we say "Happy New Year" as "Hau'oli Makahiki Hou"(how-OH-lee
mah-kah-hee-kee ho). After they embraced Christianity it was only natural that they adapted some of the traditions
of Makahiki to the celebration of Christmas, and as the years passed many other cultures arriving in Hawai`i added
some of their own twists.
Sometimes Christmas dinner consists of a traditional lu'au, complete with a pig roasted in an underground pit,
chicken long rice (chicken noodle soup, Hawaiian style), lomilomi salmon, and poi. A less formal get-together is
called kanikapila (kah-nee-kah-PEE-lah), which means "to make music". You'd be hard pressed in Hawai`i to find
any informal party that didn't include singing, guitars, ukuleles (oo-koo-LEH-leh), and probably some impromptu
hula as well! Our Christmas songs include the traditional ones, often sung in the beautiful and melodic Hawaiian
language, as well as many that are completely original to Hawai`i-- such as Mele Kalikimaka, of course.

After the meal? Well, if we can still move we'll probably go down to the beach to watch the kids trying out the new
surf or boogie boards that Santa brought them for Christmas. Join us, won't you?

Numbah One Day of Christmas
(The 12 Days of Christmas local style)
- by Eaton B. Magoon Jr., Edward Kenny, Gordon N. Phelps

Numbah One day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
One mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Two day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Two coconut, an' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Tree day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Foah day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Foah flowah lei, tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.
Numbah Five day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Five beeg fat peeg... foah flowah lei, tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Seex day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Seex hula lesson, five beeg fat peeg (that make TEN!),
Foah flowah lei, tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Seven day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Seven shrimp a-swimmin', seex hula lesson,
Five beeg fat peeg, foah flowah lei, tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Eight day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Eight ukulele, seven shrimp a-swimmin', seex hula lesson,
Five beeg fat peeg (that make TWENNY!), foah flowah lei, tree dry squid, two coconut, An'
one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Nine day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Nine pound of poi, eight ukulele, seven shrimp a-swimmin',
Seex hula lesson, five beeg fat peeg, foah flowah let, tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Ten day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Ten can of beer, nine pound of poi, eight ukuklele, seven shrimp a-swimmin'
Seex hula lesson, five beeg fat peeg,
Foah flowah lei, tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

Numbah Eleven day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Eleven missionary, ten can of beer, nine pound of poi,
Eight ukulele, seven shrimp a-swimmin', seex hula lesson,
Five beeg fat peeg, foah flowah lei, tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree.

(Numbah Twelve day of Christmas the bes', and the bes' stuff always come las'...)

Numbah Twelve day of Christmas, my tutu give to me
Twelve TELEVISION, eleven missionary, ten can of beer,
Nine pound of poi, eight ukulele, seven shrimp a-swimmin',
Seex hula lesson, FORTY steenkin' peeg,
Foah flowah lei, tree dry squid, two coconut,
An' one mynah bird in one papaya tree!

Music and lyrics published by Hawaiian Recording and Publishing Company, Inc., and
copyrighted in 1959.


...an' lots more stuffs you nevah need to know: http://64.224.244.55/12days.htm

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 476 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (18:12) * 62 lines
’Twas the Night Before Christmas
(Legal Version)
Author Unknown

Whereas, on or about the night prior to Christmas, there did occur at a certain improved piece
of real property (hereinafter “the House”) a general lack of stirring by all creatures therein,
including, but not limited to a mouse.

A variety of foot apparel, e.g. stocking, socks, etc., had been affixed by and around the
chimney in said House in the hope and/or belief that St. Nick a/k/a/ St. Nicholas a/k/a/ Santa
Claus (hereinafter “Claus”) would arrive at sometime thereafter.

The minor residents, i.e. the children, of the aforementioned House, were located in their
individual beds and were engaged in nocturnal hallucinations, i.e. dreams, wherein vision of
confectionery treats, including, but not limited to, candies, nuts and/or sugar plums, did dance,
cavort and otherwise appear in said dreams.

Whereupon the party of the first part (sometimes hereinafter referred to as “I”), being the
joint-owner in fee simple of the House with the parts of the second part (hereinafter
“Mamma”), and said Mamma had retired for a sustained period of sleep. (At such time, the
parties were clad in various forms of headgear, e.g. kerchief and cap.)

Suddenly, and without prior notice or warning, there did occur upon the unimproved real
property adjacent and appurtent to said House, i.e. the lawn, a certain disruption of unknown
nature, cause and/or circumstance. The party of the first part did immediately rush to a
window in the House to investigate the cause of such disturbance.

At that time, the party of the first part did observe, with some degree of wonder and/or
disbelief, a miniature sleigh (hereinafter the “Vehicle”) being pulled and/or drawn very
rapidly through the air by approximately eight (8) reindeer. The driver of the Vehicle appeared
to be and in fact was, the previously referenced Claus.

Said Claus was providing specific direction, instruction and guidance to the approximately
eight (8) reindeer and specifically identified the animal co-conspirators by name: Dasher,
Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donder and Blitzen (hereinafter the “Deer”). (Upon
information and belief, it is further asserted that an additional co-conspirator named Rudolph
may have been involved.)

The party of the first part witnessed Claus, the Vehicle and the Deer intentionally and willfully
trespass upon the roofs of several residences located adjacent to and in the vicinity of the
House, and noted that the Vehicle was heavily laden with packages, toys and other items of
unknown origin or nature. Suddenly, without prior invitation or permission, either express or
implied, the Vehicle arrived at the House, and Claus entered said House via the chimney.

Said Claus was clad in a red fur suit, which was partially covered with residue from the
chimney, and he carried a large sack containing a portion of the aforementioned packages,
toys, and other unknown items. He was smoking what appeared to be tobacco in a small pipe
in blatant violation of local ordinances and health regulations.

Claus did not speak, but immediately began to fill the stocking of the minor children, which
hung adjacent to the chimney, with toys and other small gifts. (Said items did not, however,
constitute “gifts” to said minor pursuant to the applicable provisions of the U.S. Tax Code.)
Upon completion of such task, Claus touched the side of his nose and flew, rose and/or
ascended up the chimney of the House to the roof where the Vehicle and Deer waited and/or
served as “lookouts.” Claus immediately departed for an unknown destination.

However, prior to the departure of the Vehicle, Deer and Claus from said House, the party of
the first part did hear Claus state and/or exclaim: “Merry Christmas to all and to all a good
night!” Or words to that effect.

Respectfully Submitted,
s./ The Grinch


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 477 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (18:16) * 10 lines
Below, in the words of Queen Lili`uokalani, is the real meaning of that magical word - ALOHA -

"And wherever [the native Hawaiian] went he said 'Aloha' in meeting or in parting. 'Aloha' was a recognition of life in another. If there was life there was mana, goodness and wisdom, and if there was goodness and wisdom there was a
god-quality. One had to recognize the 'god of life' in another before saying 'Aloha,' but this was easy. Life was everywhere-- in the trees, the flowers, the ocean, the fish, the birds, the pili grass, the rainbow, the rock--in all the
world was life--was god--was Aloha. Aloha in its gaiety, joy, happiness, abundance. Because of Aloha, one gave without thought of return; because of Aloha, one had mana. Aloha had its own mana. It never left the giver but flowed
freely and continuously between giver and receiver. 'Aloha' could not be thoughtlessly or indiscriminately spoken, for it carried its own power. No Hawaiian could greet another with 'Aloha' unless he felt it in his own heart. If he felt anger or hate in his heart he had to cleanse himself before he said 'Aloha'."

Helena G. Allen, The Betrayal of Lili`uokalani, Last Queen of Hawaii, 1838-1917.
(Mutual Publishing: Honolulu, 1982) 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 478 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (05:31) * 5 lines

Health & Happiness to all of you!

Peace on Earth without natural disasters!

( John )



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 479 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (10:25) * 14 lines
CHRISTMAS, NEW YEAR & EPIFANY IN GREECE


Now you'll find Christmas in Greece celebrated with lavish decorations and lights strung across most of the streets in major cities and towns. Citizens they adorn its houses and gardens with lights too. Athens in particular has responded to the revival of Christmas where its mayor, has added new colour to the festivities by erecting the largest Christmas tree in Europe. This tree can be seen towering above busy Syntagma (Constitution square), where Athens now also hosts exciting 'live' stage acts and shows featuring many of Greece's popular entertainers.

Christmas trees were not commonly used in older Greece. Today you can see Christmas trees everywhere. In Greek Islands habitants adorn effigies of ships.

After 40 days of fasting, adults and children look the Christmas feast forward to with great anticipation alike. There are many Christmas customs that are similar, yet slightly different from the West. Such as the custom on Christmas Eve, on New Year Eve and Epiphany Eve of where children travel from house to house offering good wishes and singing 'kalanda', the equivalent of Christmas carols. The children often accompany the songs using small metal triangles and little clay drums. Afterwards, the children are usually given sweets or coins in appreciation. This custom has almost disappeared to day. You can hear carols only in TV or from some band.

In Greek Christmas, the feast itself becomes the main attraction by both adults and children alike. Lamb and pork are roasted in ovens and open spits, and on almost every table are loaves of 'christopsomo' ('Christ bread'). This bread is usually made in large sweet loaves of various shapes and the crusts are engraved and decorated in some way that reflects the family's profession.

Gifts are finally exchanged on St. Basil's Day (January 1). This day, before the diner we cut St. Basil’s pie (named Vasilopita or Basil’s pie). Usually, it is a bun and it contains a coin. Father cuts St. basil’s pie in equal size parts, one for each one member of the family and one (the first) for Christ, St. Basil’s and home. That who find the coin in its part, is believed that is lucky in the New Year.

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 480 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (18:20) * 7 lines
Hi all

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AT GEO!!!!!!!! Hugs from Aotearoa/New Zealand. May god grant you a great and grand day.

Hugs to all

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 481 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (20:10) * 12 lines

Mele Kalikimaka



There seem to be many parallel customs of Greek Christmas and US/UK Easter. Your 40 days of fasting (Advent?) is more like Lent for us. The roast lamb is our Easter feast, and the buns you mention are like our Hot Cross Buns. However, we do have the tradition of baking a coin or other little metal object in the Christmas cake or plum pudding. (Hawaiians roast a whole pig but I think this was their tradition long before Christianity got here!)

We all owe a debt to Germany for the Christmas Tree. Prince Albert decorated one for Queen Victoria and we all followed their tradition. The apples which once reminded us of "the original sin" have been replaced by round shiny ornaments. The candles are now little electric lights. The star on the top is forever the reason for the holiday.

Thank you John and Rob for your good wishes. Mine join yours for all those who share the earth and its wonders. Even little Wolfies! 






 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 482 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (20:48) * 1 lines
*HUGS* yes, we should remember the reason for the season!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 483 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (21:07) * 6 lines
*HUGS* Wolfie. Sorry my programming is so strange today. I did ftp the correct tree with the transparent background to Spring, but it is not doing it right today. And, one was supposed to be on each end of the title. John knows better than to use a large gif file at the end of his sentences. I will learn...!

Kala Christouyenna! 




 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 484 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (21:09) * 1 lines
..And... thank you John for the little chimney gif above! I originally was going to use it in othere places and I still might... I need the little angel to ftp correctly....*sigh*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 485 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (21:27) * 4 lines
Success is mine! Angelakis is not over on Spring as are other ornaments of the season. Happy Me! 




 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 486 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (21:28) * 4 lines
*Sigh* They are NOW on Spring - that is why I could use them...*sigh* 




 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 487 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (06:36) * 6 lines

ĘÁËÇ ×ŃĎÍÉÁ
I wish everything good you have deeply in your heart to become real.

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 488 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (15:06) * 2 lines
Oh John! What lovely graphics!
I wanted to correct any misconceptions of ancient traditions I cited for Greece concerning winter invasions of houses by spirits and such.. We all share these traditions. Cjeck you ancient traditions for this time of year when the sun seems so remote and the weather to cold. We bring greens into the house bwecuase it is "traditional." Yes, it is - we all have little spirits of the woods. They need to be protected and kept happy, as wel bring holly, pine and mistletoe into the house as sign of life and renewal. Origionnly se did that to let the pirits who came into our homes have a place to hide and to befirend them so they would not bring evil to our homes. We seem torn between worship and fear of the things we do not understand. Not much has changed!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 489 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (15:46) * 8 lines

Happy New Year



Joy to the World and Universal Peace



May Health and Prosperity and Wishes of your Heart be Yours 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 490 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (18:52) * 3 lines
how very lovely!! wish i could ftp *sigh*

my sentiments are added to the above *HUGS*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 491 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (19:06) * 1 lines
*HUGS* Wolfie! We have to grab hold of Terry as soon as things get back to normal in 2002. If you had been watching Geo's title page you' dhave seen about 5 different changes. I think I will leave is as is for a little while. What comes next? 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 492 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (19:12) * 1 lines
John would be appalled. He is so good with graphics. I posted the holly. It had white background so I deleted that and reposted it. Then flipped the left one. but they were too big, so I made them smaller. Then I changed them side to side so the stems of the holly pointed in the correct direction. *Sigh*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 493 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (19:15) * 2 lines
Oh yes, in there somewhere I also rotated them instead of reversing (flipping) them. Each time I installed them, looked and was unhappy so I worked some more.
Wolfie, go to my Christmas file and USE something on Crafts!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 494 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (23:28) * 1 lines
oh, that's right sweetie, you did give me permission *HUGS* thanks!! and i must say that everything looks better with my new monitor (picked up a 17" VeiwSonic Flat Screen-it's still a big clunker, not one of those thin screened deals). fiddled with the pixels and now everything looks great!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 495 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Dec 31, 2001 (23:29) * 1 lines
the only change i noticed was the christmas stuff going away and the holly going up! i've been busy shopping those after-christmas sales!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 496 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan  1, 2002 (12:51) * 1 lines
I'm trying for a bit of universal appeal. Here, it is requisite for trees to come down before New Year (oruiental style) but I shall keep the decorations up and reinstall soem special ones until Epiphany. I think I found a good bar to do that with. Sales? I can't imagine having room for anything else, but it doesn't hurt to look. I have the one treasure which means more to me than any other I have ever received. *SIGH*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 497 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Jan  1, 2002 (17:44) * 1 lines
*SIGH* our tree and decorations came down today. much more room to move around the house! but, Mardi Gras is just around the corner so that stuff will be coming out (no tree involved in our house-though i might pick up a small table top one just for the occasion) and i have purple lights to put up!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 498 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan  1, 2002 (18:59) * 3 lines
Does Valentine's Day come before Shrove (Fat) Tuesday otherwise called Mardi Gras? Have the beads you sent me ready to go!

OH MY!!! I just looked at my calendar. We're gonna have to decorate fast. Mardi Gras is 13 February and Valentine's day is the next day. Then back to fasting and repentance.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 499 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Jan  1, 2002 (20:10) * 5 lines
Hi all

HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!!! Hope your day was wonderful and that you will be able to meet your New Year resolutions. I spent December 31 driving to the Molesworth Station with Mum and Dad and then pitching tents at the north entrance to the massive farm station. The weather was heaven - warm, calm, a northwest arch and broken cloud. Mum and Dad went through a bottle of wine and I had a couple Canterbury Draughts to celebrate the New Year, albeit a bit early. We went to bed at 11.PM

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 500 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan  1, 2002 (22:03) * 9 lines
Happy New Year, Rob! I was in bed by 10PM but the neighbors put on a rather spectacular display considering that aerial displays are off limits in Hawaii. They had spectacular *Whump* mortars and brilliant giant star shells on the other end. I spent a bit of time as a pyrotechical apprentice and I am aware that those they were launching last nigth were illegal. However, we enjoyed every last one of them!

I cooked pork loin and sourkraut in honor of my mother who did the same for good luck in the coming year. It is about the only bit of German left in me. Delicious!

Were the Greeks eating lamb again and the New Zealanders eating mutton? Pity the poor Scots who eat haggis: A sheep's stomach stuffed with oatmeal. 





 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 501 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Jan  2, 2002 (10:36) * 3 lines
Hi Rob!

Marcia, we had black-eyed peas and greens for good luck (not my idea of a good luck supper but....)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 502 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan  2, 2002 (16:17) * 4 lines
I've heard of black-eyed peas for good luck! Did you have hamhocks with them?

Those of oriental tradition pounded mochi rice into little cakes which feel most amazingly squeezy. They decorate them with good luck symbols and eat some and
put some on the family shrine. Our tangerine trees are heavily-laden with fruit so they also gather them and leave one leaf on for long life. The mochi cakes are a bit tasteless. It sort of tastes like a uncooked unseasoned cake to me.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 503 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Wed, Jan  2, 2002 (18:46) * 8 lines
Hi all

I was going to post something here last night but a peal of thunder saw me disconnect and shut down in record time. Now anyway I went to the beautiful Molesworth Station as you know, but I did not tell you anything about the geology of the area.
Molesworth Station is north of Hanmer Springs with their renown thermal springs on the Hope Fault (last earthquake in 1888 brought down the spire on Christchurch Cathedral)and has a number of large faults running SW to NE through it. The Awatere Fault is the biggest - running all the way to the coast east of Blenheim and has a record of large earthquakes, the last being in 1848 and was magnitude 7.5. The smaller Clarence Fault is not so known though it is believed to be capable of generating an earthquake of over 7.0. It is not known when the last earthquake was, but the fault is considered active.

For more, go to EARTHQUAKE!!! and see the full account of the geology, which I will post in a couple days time.

Rob 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 504 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan  2, 2002 (20:15) * 1 lines
Talk about a misnomer. Hope Fault which brought down a cathedral steeple?! I imagine it was named after a person named Hope. The geology is most welcome and fascinating. I seem to imagine New Zealand as longitudinally striated by glaciers. Of course, your western edge ISon a zone of subduction. Geology is just reminding you of that little fact...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 505 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Jan  2, 2002 (21:24) * 1 lines
marcia, aren't those the cakes that they stand in line for hours for? think i saw something about it on the travel channel.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 506 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Thu, Jan  3, 2002 (03:51) * 3 lines
Hi all

The only conceivable thing we would stand in line for awhile in New Zealand is tickets to All Black vs the Springboks (South Africa)or All Blacks vs the Wallabies (Australia). Oh and Robbie Williams as well (my brother and several friends went to the RW concert here).

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 Response 507 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, Jan  3, 2002 (11:42) * 1 lines
isn't he the guy who did "let me entertain you"?

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 Response 508 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Fri, Jan  4, 2002 (00:03) * 6 lines
Hi all

Not sure. Anyway I went back last night and looked at my last response. I wasn't thinking clearly and there is a lot more than what met my eye. All Black games against England, France, Australia, or South Africa are guaranteed full houses. As are the First Division finals of NPC rugby, Ranfurly Shield, and Super 12. Cricket One Day Internationals also full the stadium. New Zealanders like Neil and Tim Finn, Bic Runga, Dave Dobbyn and others include Robbie Williams (2001), Neil Diamond (1999), Bee Gees (1999), and the Corrs (2001). They all had sell out concerts, and the local acts are doing very well too.
Yachting also does well E S P E C I A L L Y when the America's Cup Defence or the Louis Vuitton challenger series are in progress.

Rob

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 Response 509 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Fri, Jan  4, 2002 (00:08) * 1 lines
yeah, he is the guy who did that one (robbie williams and let me entertain you). learned about him during my visit to the sandbox (vh1 came in very clear over there).

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 Response 510 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jan  4, 2002 (19:01) * 17 lines
Hmmmmmm off I go to search a little.

Robbie Williams, a pop sensation who sells out arena
tours in minutes and castles of 80 000, dives into
unknown territory across the ocean. In the UK and
Europe, the superstar can be recognised as simply
"Robbie", no further explanation needed. In North
America a common response to Robbie Williams has
been "Robbie who?"
Well not for long! With his release of Angels, he is
begining to get the recognition he deserves in North
America.
This site is dedicated to the pop phenominon Robbie
Williams for the die hard fans, and for those who are
looking for the answer to "Robbie who?"

more... http://www.saslad.com/robbiewilliams/

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 Response 511 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (03:20) * 8 lines
Hi all
I am back even if with pain in my broken leg. I move slowly and with enough difficulty. But I am in my home. I will be here more hours than before as my pain goes far.

I have updated all of my graphs.
*Hugs*

John 


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 Response 512 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (14:03) * 1 lines
JOHN!!! Great sighs of relief and joy that you are returned. Please heal completely. I have a volcano to show you one day!

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 Response 513 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (18:36) * 1 lines
good to see you again john!

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 Response 514 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (18:48) * 8 lines
Welcome Home!



Read those medical lables carefully. You never know what is in there!

*HUGS* 


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 Response 515 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (20:31) * 1 lines
i love that animation!!!

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 Response 516 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jan 11, 2002 (00:15) * 1 lines
I do, too! I think I found it in Drool once. I am an equal opportunity "borrower" of graphics! I have been saving it for two years waiting for the right time to use it. This seemed appropriate!

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 Response 517 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (05:15) * 5 lines
Thank you Wolfie. You are very kind. I am back here even if not as before. I will try to be patient with my pain and creative as I can.
*Hugs*

John 


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 Response 518 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (13:42) * 1 lines
We will be patient with your healing and pain, John. But, I fear it is more frustrating for you than for us. I can only sympathize with you, and divert you from thinking about it. Alas, it is not as much as I would like to be able to do for you. You are very important to us. Please rest and heal properly even it it means being away from Geo.

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 Response 519 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (18:40) * 7 lines
Hi all

Welcome home John. Good to have you back among us.

I think Marcia, as I said before Geo is a sort of family and despite the long distances between us all (Anne and I live in the southern hemisphere, Maggie is in the UK last I saw anything from her). Good to have an extended family online as well as our day to day families.

Rob

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 Response 520 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (19:39) * 7 lines
Happy Geo! Rob had it exactly right. We're family in here - even those who just lurk. There are always comforting hugs and welcoming smiles for all who enter. Very special affection for those who actually post something. Ok Rob, what is going on with Mount Ruapehu? I see it finally made the GeoHazard list. Now if only they would cover the hydrological hazards New Zealand endures.

Maggie is around. Come back and post, Dear! We miss your comments. But I know you are housesitting and dog tending for friends - and painting, too.

Anne is busy, I guess. I really need to check on her. It has been too long. Western OZ can't be that remote...!

We really are an international family. That delights this little geophile very much! Rob, you're a dear to mention that we have become a family of curious and congenial intellects.

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 Response 521 of 777: Michael McNeil  (Weatherlawyer) * Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (19:52) * 3 lines
I was given this site by someone from Greece. So far I have not been able to navigate it at all.

Perhaps a little bit of guidance would not come amiss in the home page?

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 Response 522 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (20:13) * 4 lines
Aloha Michael. I wrote a little message to you in welcome if you came to Geo. I did it in Geo 26 which you can access at
http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/26.1187

John posts in both Geo 26 (which also contains all updates of seismic activity) and in Geo 9. Please make yourself comfortable. I'll post John's two graphs whihc update regularly in the next post.

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 Response 523 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (20:15) * 5 lines
http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/read/Geo/26.1187

http://tvnight.org/geo/JohnVolos/Public/pages/inviation.htm

These are the two places John (from Greece) posts his updated graphs. It is fascinating stuff and he is no longer alone in his concern for the world's geological stability. As you can see, I am amongst those who care very much about it. Please tell us where you are and how you came to be interested in Earthquakes! Again, Welcome.

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 Response 524 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 14, 2002 (20:17) * 2 lines
Ohm the easiest way to navigate Geo is to access it by using this url and picking the stuff which interests you!
http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/new

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 Response 525 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Wed, Jan 16, 2002 (05:09) * 9 lines
Welcome to Geo Michael.
You will find a warm international family here. We are learning, discuss and sharing everything new or strange seeing them from the scientific side of view. We need your enthusiastic opinion and we will not disappoint you. We will learn from you as well. Be sure that we will answer in anything you have in mind. Feel comfort and stay with us. Find or create your favour place here. But I know that no one and nothing is accomplished in this life. Knowledge is a God's gift and we are open to share it with you. Especially if this knowledge can save or protect human lives.

I have some difficult with my English but I hope that you can forgive me. I thank also Marcia for this. She is very kind and has wide knowledge and right wisdom.

Warm regards from Greece

John 


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 Response 526 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 16, 2002 (14:47) * 3 lines
E komo mai, Mike. I'd might as well add a lei or two for the festivities.

John, you're doing just just fine with English, and far better than anyone else's Greek! This is a language of exceptions to the rules, and even those whose mother tongue it is, do not not get it right all of the time. We're here to share what we know of things geological (and off-topic) - NOT to correct one another. heave help me, if we do. You'll find enough errors in my typing which defy my finding them until I have posted them. *Sigh*

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 Response 527 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 16, 2002 (14:50) * 1 lines
See? Heaven help me is what I thought I had typed. If only this little box had spell-checking...

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 Response 528 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, Feb  5, 2002 (16:52) * 3 lines
I'd love it if this little box had a spell check thing. My bad spelling is almost legendary.

I hope that John's leg is, if not entirely healed, then at least almost healed. Get well, John!

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 Response 529 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb  5, 2002 (17:05) * 3 lines
I talked to John last night. He is still in pain, frustrated by the inability to be his usual active self, and concerned about the fever he has developed. His doctor examined him and apparently it is nothing to worry about. Easy for the doctor to say. I am sending any and all warmth and good vibes to Greece for his speedy recovery!

I'm with you on the spell check. But then I would not have any "surly" responses and what fun is that =)

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 Response 530 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, Feb  5, 2002 (17:37) * 3 lines
Doctors can get on your nerves sometimes. It easy to say that a fever is nothing to worry about if you're not the one whose got it. I hope that John is really well and back to his active self very soon. 



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 Response 531 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb  5, 2002 (18:26) * 1 lines
I agree on that "it's nothing" attitude of anyone else but the sufferer. I hope it was reassuring. I do enough worrying for both of us!

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 Response 532 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, Feb  5, 2002 (18:37) * 3 lines
A little worry is fine. However, it is hard to worry in moderation. That's why it's called worrying.

You are the best, Marcia.

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 Response 533 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Feb  5, 2002 (18:42) * 3 lines
john's always on the go, he doesn't have a chance to catch a virus, now that he's laid up, he's fair game! *HUGS*

and we all worry en masse!!

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 Response 534 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb  5, 2002 (18:54) * 7 lines
He'll appreciate your concern. I've taken up running away from the bad stuff for him. My little contribution to a living Greek whose fatherland gave us the marathon. I'm in it for the long haul!

You guys are worth every effort I can give of support!

*Biggest hugs*

(Now, I wish I could decorate Geo for Mardi Gras...!)

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 Response 535 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Wed, Feb  6, 2002 (13:08) * 3 lines
Please do not worry. I appreciate your concern and I have no words to thank you. I have no fever now and I am enough well suddenly. It was a three-days bad travel inside a nebula with zero visibility. But I remain inside my house waiting my left leg to become useful. *Hugs*
John 


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 Response 536 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb  6, 2002 (14:07) * 13 lines
Patienec, My Dearest John. I feel your improved state if health. Please do not volunteer for athletic contests quite yet. I suspect that soon you will be impossible to keep quiet and indoors. High spirits you deserve. Health and happiness, as well. I send you warmth from Hawaii and you usual fragrant Maile lei


The fragrant Maile lei, which is made up of green
leaves similar to laurel, is considered to be the oldest
type of lei in the tradition of Hawaiian lei making. A
Maile lei is a must for brides and grooms in a
Hawaiian Wedding. The dark green leaves give off a
fragrant sweet smell. Our Maile Lei are made to order
from fresh picked wild leaves... place your order
early..
http://alohafreshflowers.com/lei/lei-maile.html 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 537 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb  6, 2002 (14:20) * 3 lines
I wish I could send him one. I'd rather deliver them myself than to send all of these young agile dancers, but... I will not second guess our esteemed watcher of the seismicity of the world.

Maile is also used for blessings of buildings and "grand openings" of new businesses. It is always untied - never cut. It is also worn with the ends open to allow for healing to come into you instead of the traditional flower lei with the ends joined in a circle to enclose you and keep the healing away from you. Maile grows in the deep wet forests on the slopes of Kilauea and Mauna Loa volcanoes.

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 Response 538 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Feb  6, 2002 (19:26) * 1 lines
those leis sound wonderful!!

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 Response 539 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb  6, 2002 (21:53) * 1 lines
They are very special and look perhaps a little odd for those expecting end-to-end flowers. This is what I brought to Honolulu for my son's college graduation from the slopes of his favorite volcano. It is VERY special, indeed. Did you know here we can buy it at Safeway (a very large grocery store chain) or Walmart (everything else but food in Hilo.) I try to encourage the commercial growers rather than those who would strip the forests of the native maile vines. each one on those ladies is several vines braided together and stripped like a sausage from the midrib which will grow again. The part of the maile we wear is like the casing on electrical wires. Supple and soothing, they are wonderful to wear.

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 Response 540 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb  6, 2002 (21:57) * 3 lines
Close up of maile. This one is about 10 braided vines together and is very special, indeed! 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 541 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb  6, 2002 (21:58) * 7 lines


Maile & Tuberose

Traditional Green Open End Maile Lei twined together with 2 White
Tuberose Lei. This combination of three leis is worn by men's for
weddings and special occasions.


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 Response 542 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Wed, Feb 13, 2002 (15:54) * 16 lines
I will put it here. I hope to your clement critique. It is only an attempt in a new language for me.

When fresh fragrant roses
They are flying to a heart
Sweeter life they causes
Love can fly you above Earth

You can see two flashing Eyes
Looking at your sweetie face
Common language of bodies
It uplifts you to the space.

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 543 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 13, 2002 (16:53) * 3 lines
Women of Earth, if John gets any better at English we are in serious trouble.

John, your poem is lovely. Your feelings sweet and kind and loving. Little wonder you are skilled at poetry. Unless I am mistaken, Greece perfected the artform. It is wonderful as are the sentiments you express. Thank you from all of Geo.

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 Response 544 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 13, 2002 (16:57) * 6 lines

Happy Valentine's Day



From my part of the world to Yours 




 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 545 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Wed, Feb 13, 2002 (17:10) * 1 lines
Happy Valentine's Day to all.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 546 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Feb 13, 2002 (18:44) * 3 lines
such sweet sentiments! wish i could post from ftp so i could post lots of pics!

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!!!!


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 Response 547 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 13, 2002 (22:16) * 24 lines
I'm putting this here so you can see it if you hav cable available:

*****************************
Volcano Hunters documentary
*****************************
From: "Stephen James O'Meara"

Dear Friends and Colleagues:

For all those who inquired the National Geographic Society Explorer program
entitled VOLCANO HUNTERS will air in its entirety on Sunday, February 17,
2002 on MSNBC at 8PM EST. Earlier to the west.

The program details our work with active volcanoes and an investigation
into a possible lunar tidal influence at particular volcanoes.
Check local listing on the west coast for earlier times.

Sincerely, Donna and Steve O'Meara
--
Volcano Watch International
Donna and Stephen O'Meara
P.O. Box 218
Volcano, Hawaii 96785 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 548 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Thu, Feb 14, 2002 (01:46) * 6 lines
I thank all of you in geo.

I send a thousand white doves with a branchlet of oil trees in their beaks. Watch how peace and love is covering your sky today. Everyone dove is for each one of you. You must take the branshlet and leave Free the dove. Branshlet of oil tree is a symbol of life's beauty that you have deeply in your heart. Love, Peace and Freedom, they are God's gifts. They are waiting you near.

I wish a new better start for all of you this Valentine day. The only way to disappear shadows from our life is to find a place just under the light. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 549 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 14, 2002 (12:51) * 4 lines
Aloha Nui Loa, Keoni. Your wishes join mine from the other half of the world. In peace and love we embrace the best that mankind can be. 




 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 550 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 14, 2002 (14:02) * 47 lines
WHO CREATED THE FIRST MASS PRODUCED VALENTINES CARDS?
Esther Allen Howland, born in 1828 in Worcester, Massachusetts,
was responsible for pioneering the American valentine manufac-
turing industry. After graduating from Mount Holyoke College
in 1847, she received her first English valentine. Wishing to
create similar valentines, she imported the appropriate paper
lace and floral decorations from England. She started taking
orders for valentines, and discovered the demand was for more
than she could make by herself. Friends were recruited to help
her, and Howland issued her first advertisement in a Worcester
newspaper on February 5, 1850. The assembly line operation
that began in her home eventually led to a thriving business
grossing $100,000 annually. She retired in 1881, selling her
business to the George C. Whitney Company.

***
Reinhardt Schwimmer was the name of the optometrist
who died during the St. Valentine's Day Massacre in 1929.
***

WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE OLYMPIC RINGS?
The rings were adopted by Baron Pierre de Coubertin, the
founder of the modern Olympic Movement, in 1913 after he saw
a similar design on an artifact from ancient Greece. The five
rings represent the five major regions of the world: Africa,
the Americas, Asia, Europe, and Oceania. Every national flag
in the world includes at least one of the five colors--blue,
yellow, black, green, and red. Pierre de Coubertin never said
nor wrote that the colors of the rings were linked with the
different continents.

***
When it was demolished in 1967, there were 414 bullet-marked
bricks left behind from the wall of the S-M-G Cartage
Company building, site of the 1929
St. Valentine's Day Massacre in Chicago, Illinois.
***

WHO CREATED THE FIRST WRITTEN VALENTINE?
In the 15th century, singing and spoken valentines were slowly
replaced by written letters in Europe. The first written Val-
entine is credited to Charles, the Duke of Orleans, who wrote
love poems to his wife when he was in prison in 1415. By the
beginning of the 16th century, Valentines were almost always
written. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 551 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Thu, Feb 14, 2002 (14:51) * 1 lines
Many thanks for your Valentine's Day wishes, John and Marcia. To everyone, have a wonderful Valentine's Day.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 552 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 14, 2002 (17:39) * 3 lines
Back to reality for a moment. This is a sensational little FREE download program which works better than my paid-for McAfee Anti-Virus program. It found two resident infected files which had escaped detection for two years.

http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.htm

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 553 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 15, 2002 (18:30) * 31 lines
Things I discovered but did not post in time. Probably should not post here at all:

St Valentine’s Day was not always a Christian celebration.
In the days of the Roman Empire the holiday we know as Valen-
tine's Day was a festival called Lupercania, and it was
celebrated for an entire week. The Deities Juno, Venus and
Cupid were honored. Wolves were also celebrated, probably
because of their strong familial instincts and their blatant
sexuality. This week was dedicated to lust, and few boundaries
were acknowledged. It was a time to pursue the one you loved.
Messages were sent to intended lovers to let them know that
they were attractive. These messages were made in the form
of human genitalia. These messages were often delivered by
little children dressed as Cupid.

When Rome became Christian Lupercania was no longer tolerated.
Because the holiday would not die out, the Church canonized
Valentine, a martyr, who was killed because he married
couples in secret when the emperor outlawed marriage as a ploy
to recruit men for his army. Valentine made a good substitute
for Juno, Venus and the wolves. But the people would not give
up Cupid and the vulgar messages. The Church also changed these,
keeping the basic forms, but streamlining the shapes somewhat,
and called them hearts and arrows. Cupid was still allowed to
deliver these messages of love because he was now changed into
a cherub.

So next time you receive a heart-shaped card with an arrow
piercing the center, know that it’s really a very sexy message. 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 554 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Feb 16, 2002 (20:10) * 3 lines
For John and other poetry lovers, this parody of a Nathaniel Hawthorn with math thrown in for good measure

http://www.cvc.org/valentine.htm

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 555 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Feb 18, 2002 (13:14) * 1 lines
I hope that Wolfie had a Happy Lupercania. Might the wolves also have been celebrated because the legendary founder of Rome, Romulus, and his twin brother, Remus, had a wolf for a foster mother, according to the story?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 556 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 18, 2002 (18:35) * 1 lines
Cheryl, you're priceless! The classicist of geo, I am both laughing at your wit and smiling at your cleverness. Wonder if Wolfie really can nurse 6 at a time.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 557 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Feb 18, 2002 (19:19) * 1 lines
um, no on the nursing, at least for this wolfie, and cheryl, you are a wealth of mythical legends! what is Lupercania? (something to do with wolves)--was it another holiday I should get presents for? *LAUGH*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 558 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 18, 2002 (22:42) * 24 lines
Lupercalia

The Lupercalia was a Roman holiday that was held from the 14th to the 15th of February, and is the predecessor of St. Valentine's
Day. Now we know that many of our modern holidays have roots in the Pagan Past. The Catholic Church reworked many of them to
their own purposes. St. Valentine, and there may have been two of them, was a Bishop of Terni who was martyred circa 270 - 273
C.E. The Bishops of Rome, who wanted to get rid of the licentiousness of the Lupercalia started to celebrate the 14th of February in
the name of St. Valentine.

So what exactly is a Lupercalia? Well, it was a festival held in honour of the God Faunus whose name comes from favere or "to
favour", in his form of Lupercus. As Lupercus he was a generous spirit who aided the growth of crops and herds. He also kept wolves
away from livestock, hence the name Lupercus.

During the Lupercalia two groups of young men, called the Luperci, made up from the better families of Rome were chosen to
participate in the main ritual. They met in a grotto or cave on the Palatine Hill. There they sacrificed goats and a dog. The leaders of
each group were then bedaubed with the sacrificial blood on their foreheads. This blood was wiped away with a bit of wool dipped in
milk. Perhaps, this represented wildness being tamed by nurturance. While the blood was wiped off they were supposed to laugh out
loud. Then they held a raucous feast and got exceptionally drunk. Next they took the bloody goatskins, and fashioned whips and
loincloths from them. Wearing only the loincloths and brandishing the whips they set out. First, they ran a few circuits around the
Palatine Hill to sanctify it. The two groups then proceeded to run a sacred race into the city. There they would whip anyone in their
way. It was considered lucky to be whipped and thought to enhance conception. The Lupercalia was one of the most famous of all the
Roman Festivals. It drew vast crowds and it was an honour to be a member of the Luperci. After the race there would be feasts and
parties throughout the city.

more about fertility and other fun things... http://members.aol.com/AdytonLady/lupercalia.html

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 559 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Feb 19, 2002 (17:42) * 1 lines
thanks marcia, how interesting! and how interesting that the church accepted pagan rituals as a way to "sell" their religion.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 560 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, Feb 19, 2002 (18:01) * 18 lines
Wolfie, the orgininal posted by by Marcia on the celebration of the Lupercalia included this paragraph:

St Valentine?s Day was not always a Christian celebration.
In the days of the Roman Empire the holiday we know as Valen-
tine's Day was a festival called Lupercania, and it was
celebrated for an entire week. The Deities Juno, Venus and
Cupid were honored. Wolves were also celebrated, probably
because of their strong familial instincts and their blatant
sexuality. This week was dedicated to lust, and few boundaries
were acknowledged. It was a time to pursue the one you loved.
Messages were sent to intended lovers to let them know that
they were attractive. These messages were made in the form
of human genitalia. These messages were often delivered by
little children dressed as Cupid.

Note the part referring to wolves being celebrated for their strong familial instricts (I was familiar with that one) and blatant sexuality ("!" I didn't know that). I was familiar with a Roman festival called "Lupercalia" as for the spelling "Lupercania" I thought that it might be a variant. That can happen. Marcia's second post concerning the Lupercalia was more along the lines of what I knew concerning the festival. Sorry, you had to find out that a dog was sacrificed along with the goats.

There's also the Festival of the October Horse which concerned the Priests of Mars and a sacred horse race through the streets of Rome. It resulted in the sacrifice of the stallion which won the race. Then there was a foot race through the streets with different runners trying to grab hold of the horse's head and make it to the finish line with aforementioned head. This brought luck and honor to the section of the city in which he lived. That, however, was in another season of the year entrirely. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 561 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 19, 2002 (18:40) * 3 lines
I omitted the part about the graphic depictions of (insert male and female reproductive parts." I've never seen Lupercalia spelled with an N, either. Wonder if it is a misspelling! Sorry about the dog, too. I was hoping Wolfie would not notice. Sorry!

October Horse! I had no idea.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 562 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Feb 20, 2002 (17:32) * 1 lines
yes, i saw the whole thing! *laugh* wolves are not sexually promiscuous. they do mate for life (alpha males and females) and the pups are raised within the entire pack.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 563 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 20, 2002 (17:41) * 1 lines
Only one female breeds, as I recall. So all of the females are involved in raised her offspring. How terribly convenient, I guess...

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 564 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Feb 20, 2002 (17:44) * 1 lines
most of the females in the pack are daughters of the alpha pair. but i'll have to do more reading to verify that. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 565 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 20, 2002 (18:18) * 1 lines
Think so too, since only she breeds. No reason for other females to remain in the pack if they are not related. Carry this to Springark and discuss it in your other topic lupine...!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 566 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Feb 20, 2002 (19:30) * 1 lines
i shall!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 567 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 24, 2002 (12:33) * 10 lines
Geo extends heartfelt smypathy to John on the death of a family friend. We miss you, John! If you are not well, speedy recovery to health. (My concern is great since he has not updated his graphs.)*Hugs* and a lei for him from my heart.


Sweetheart Orchid Lei

This is the latest in lei designs, made from over 1000 individual
Dendrobium petals. Light purple edges, dark purple in the middle.

Very rare and hardy. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 568 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 24, 2002 (17:37) * 1 lines
I have the feeling that John has been having difficulties with his electricity and/or server. This has happened before. I just hope he is well.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 569 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Mon, Feb 25, 2002 (09:46) * 5 lines
Thank you for "Sweetheart Orchid Lei", Marcia.
I am really well. During my server's problem became and cut of my telephone line. I was one of about 720 subscribers that lost their telephone lines this weekend. A big truck destroyed a telephone lines distribution box in a narrow road not so far from me. *Hugs*

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 570 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 25, 2002 (11:33) * 1 lines
I should have guessed this problem for your absence. It happened to me, also when I was missing for 2 days. *HUGS* We missed you!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 571 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Feb 25, 2002 (17:39) * 1 lines
glad to see you back john! *hugs*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 572 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Feb 25, 2002 (17:56) * 1 lines
It's good to hear that you are doing well, John.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 573 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 27, 2002 (14:51) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 574 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 28, 2002 (19:14) * 1 lines
*BIG HUGS* to Maggie. Please get well, soon! We've missed you here!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 575 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Sat, Mar  2, 2002 (17:00) * 4 lines
I'm just looking in quickly. Its gone midnight so I'm very tired. Sorry to be away so long .. BAD time I'm afraid and I tend to retreat when wounded.
Hugs to all who remember me
Maggie 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 576 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar  2, 2002 (22:05) * 1 lines
Poor sweet Maggie! I send my best healing Hugs to you for a speedy recovery. We've had lots of walking and non-walking wounded in Geo this winter. I am delighted to report John's first steps outdoors - not painfree by any means, but it is a positive "step" in the healing process.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 577 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sun, Mar  3, 2002 (04:29) * 3 lines
My best wishes for a speedy recovery Maggie. Take you time and become soon well. I have almost two months inside my house. I try my first steps for the second time just now.

John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 578 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Sun, Mar  3, 2002 (12:50) * 2 lines
Thank you. Good wishes to you too John.
Maggie

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 579 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar  4, 2002 (14:26) * 1 lines
Get your graphics talents ready. John celebrates the anniversary of his birth a week from today! I'll post early to remind you.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 580 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Mar  4, 2002 (21:08) * 1 lines
hi maggie *HUGS*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 581 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (04:07) * 1 lines
Party time.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 582 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (05:02) * 13 lines
Hello friends,
Imagine yourself sitting on the sand near the sea. You are looking the sea under foul-moon light. You see far the silhouette of sailboat between moonlight twinkles on the waves.



Then hit the play button below and free your imagination. You can simply enjoy these moments or you can dance “CHASSAPIKO” on the sand.



Good Idea Terry!

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 583 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (15:11) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 584 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (15:15) * 3 lines
*Digging Luau Pit for party*

Does anyone else have problems with netscape getting the music bar on John's post?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 585 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (16:05) * 5 lines
Hi all

Not been here for a while. Hope you are better now, Maggie. John, this Kiwi desires that you have a great birthday in a few days time, with your friends and family. All the best (next family birthday in our household is in July).

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 586 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (18:28) * 1 lines
i'm in explorer and can't see the music either (and i hope john meant full moon!)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 587 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (21:42) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 588 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (21:44) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 589 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (21:45) * 3 lines
Full moon it is, and John's lovely music... 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 590 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar  5, 2002 (21:47) * 1 lines
I have the button saved and typed the command correctly so the button works but somehow the image of the button did not transfer. *sigh*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 591 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (17:47) * 1 lines
John, sorry I missed wishing you a Happy Birthday on your birthday. I would now like to wish you a Happy Belated Birthday!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 592 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sat, Mar 16, 2002 (16:53) * 3 lines
It’s all right Cheryl. Thank for your wishes. We cannot stop the time running. It is important that we can feel good between friends. I feel that I am lucky man as member of the international family in Geo.
John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 593 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (03:13) * 5 lines
Hi all

John's Birthday??!! Arrrgggghhhh!!!! I forgot. *Bends down to pray for forgiveness*. Sorry. Anyway here is wishing Happy Belated Birthday.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 594 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (09:04) * 4 lines
Do not worry Rob. It’s all right. I thank you deeply of my heart.

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 595 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Wed, Mar 20, 2002 (15:37) * 1 lines
The international family of Geo is lucky to have you, John.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 596 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Mar 20, 2002 (17:15) * 1 lines
indeed!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 597 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Wed, Mar 20, 2002 (17:18) * 1 lines
Was that a clear bell-like howl I just (virtually) heard. Sorry Wolfie, I couldn't resist.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 598 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Mar 20, 2002 (17:19) * 1 lines
*laugh*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 599 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Mar 20, 2002 (21:14) * 1 lines
That sound you heard was a happy Wolfie welcoming Spring to the northern hemisphere! Now, tell me what happens on the first Sunday after thr first full moon after the Vernal Equinox in the calendar the West is currently using.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 600 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Thu, Mar 21, 2002 (15:14) * 1 lines
That would be Easter Sunday.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 601 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 21, 2002 (16:24) * 1 lines
Last I looked it was indeed Easter Sunday. Now please explain when vernal equinoxes occur in Orthodox calendars and how they fix the date of holy days movable feasts. I have tried unsuccessfully to discover this formula.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 602 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, Mar 21, 2002 (18:43) * 1 lines
i am clueless on that one--

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 603 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 21, 2002 (19:59) * 128 lines
The Calendar of the Orthodox
Church

Lewis Patsavos, Ph.D.
Holy Cross School of Theology

© 1990-1996 Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America



1. RELIGIOUS CALENDAR: HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENT

Within the Orthodox Church feast days and fast days are reckoned according to two distinct calendars,
the Julian Calendar and the Gregorian Calendar. The first is attributed to the Roman Emperor Julius
Caesar, whose name it bears. It was later corrected in the sixteenth century by Pope Gregory XIII due
to the ever-increasing discrepancy between calendar time and calculated astronomical time. Thus the
Gregorian Calendar came into being.

Old and New Calendars

Inasmuch as the Julian Calendar had been in continuous use in the Christian East and West throughout
the centuries, the subsequent introduction of the Gregorian Calendar in the West created yet another
anomaly in the deteriorating relations between the two Churches. The need for correction of the Julian
Calendar was well understood in the East and had even led some to devise a new calendar themselves.
Nevertheless, the Julian Calendar remained in use throughout the Byzantine period and beyond.
Despite the efforts of the emissaries of Pope Gregory to convince the Orthodox to accept the New
(Gregorian) Calendar, the Orthodox Church rejected it. The main reason for its rejection was that the
celebration of Easter would be altered: contrary to the injunctions of canon 7 of the Holy Apostles, the
decree of the First Ecumenical Synod, and canon 1 of Ancyra, Easter would sometimes coincide with
the Jewish Passover in the Gregorian calendar.

This is where the matter stood until the end of World War I. Until then, all Orthodox Churches had
strictly abided by the Old (Julian) Calendar, which at present is 13 days behind the New Calendar long
since adopted by the rest of Christendom. In May of 1923, however, an "Inter–Orthodox Congress"
was convened at Constantinople by the then Ecumenical Patriarch, Meletios IV. Not all Orthodox
Churches were in attendance. The Churches of Serbia, Romania, Greece, and Cyprus were; the
Churches of Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem, although invited, were not; the Church of Bulgaria
was not invited. Several issues were under discussion at the congress, one of which was the adoption
of the New Calendar. No unanimous agreement was reached on any of the issues discussed. Several of
the Orthodox Churches, however, did eventually agree, though not all at the same time, to adopt the
New Calendar. These were the Churches of Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Greece, Cyprus,
Romania, Poland, and most recently, Bulgaria (1968); on the other hand, the Churches of Jerusalem,
Russia and Serbia, along with the monasteries on Mt. Athos, all continue to adhere to the Old
Calendar.

2. CALENDAR PROBLEMS AND IMPLICATIONS AMONG THE
ORTHODOX CHURCHES IN THE TWENTIETH CENTURY

The Old Calendarists

The result of this situation is unfortunate indeed. The Orthodox Churches which have adopted the
New Calendar observe Christmas with the other Churches of Christendom on December 25; the
Orthodox Churches which have not adopted it celebrate Christmas 13 days later, on January 7.
Epiphany is celebrated by the former on January 6 and by the latter on January 19. And so it is with all
the great feasts of the Christian Calendar but one. Easter, the feast of feasts, continues to be calculated
by all Orthodox Churches to the dates of the Old Calendar. Consequently, all Orthodox Churches
observe the event of Christ's Resurrection on the same day, regardless of when the rest of
Christendom does. An exception to this general rule is the Orthodox Church of Finland. Owing to the
fact that it makes up less than 2 per cent of the population of a predominantly Lutheran country, it
observes Easter according to the New Calendar for practical reasons.

It may well be that the date of Orthodox Easter occasionally coincides with that of the other Christian
Churches; however, it may also occur as much as 5 weeks later. Thus arose the formula applied by the
Orthodox Churches adopting the New Calendar--viz., that immovable feastdays are to be observed 13
days earlier than in the Old Calendar, while Easter and all movable feastdays dependent on it are still
calculated according to the Old Calendar--which was seen as a compromise with those who opposed
the change. On the one hand, the necessary revisions were made to correct the Old Calendar; on the
other hand, the calculation of Easter was retained as before so as not to violate the holy canons.
Nevertheless, this compromise was to prove incapable of preventing the schism of "Old Calendarists"
which ensued.

As is always the case with reform movements, there was strong opposition to the adoption of the New
Calendar, especially in Greece. What differed in this situation, however, was that reform was initiated
by the established Church together with the total backing of the state. Groups of "Old Calendarists" or
Palaioemerologitai, refused to abide by the Church's decision and continued to follow the Old Calendar
for both movable and immovable feastdays. The basis of their refusal to abandon the Old Calendar
rested on the argument that canons ratified by an Ecumenical Synod knew only of the Julian Calendar.
Therefore, nothing less than an Ecumenical Synod had the authority to institute a reform of such
proportion. In view of their refusal to submit to the authority of the Church of Greece, they were
excommunicated by the official Church. This was not the case with the monasteries of Mt. Athos.
Although all but one (i.e., 19 monasteries) continued to follow the Old Calendar, they are under the
jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Constantinople with which they continue to be in communion.
Despite attempts by the civil authorities in Greece to suppress them, the "Old Calendarists" continue to
exist there and abroad and to maintain a hierarchy of their own together with parishes and monasteries.

3. HOLY DAYS IN THE ORTHODOX CHURCH

The ecclesiastical year, which according to Byzantine practice begins on the first of September, is
divided between movable and immovable or fixed holy days. The movable holy days are determined
by the date of Easter, the most important of all feast days, which is in a class by itself. The
determination of the date of Easter was definitively regulated by the decision of the First Ecumenical
Synod, held in Nicaea (325). Next in importance to Easter are the "twelve great feasts," of which three
are movable. Eight of these feasts are devoted to Christ and four to the Virgin Mary. There are also a
number of feast days of varying importance, most of which commemorate the more popular saints.

4. HOLY DAYS DEDICATED TO CHRIST AND THE VIRGIN MARY

The "twelve great feasts," as they occur in chronological order after September 1, are as follows:

1.The Nativity of the Virgin Mary (September 8)
2.The Elevation of the Life-giving Cross (September 14)
3.The Presentation of the Virgin Mary in the Temple (November 21)
4.Christmas (December 25)
5.Epiphany (January 6)
6.The Presentation of Christ in the Temple (February 2)
7.The Annunciation (March 25)
8.Palm Sunday (the Sunday before Easter)
9.The Ascension (40 days after Easter)
10.Pentecost (50 days after Easter)
11.The Transfiguration (August 6)
12.The Repose of the Virgin Mary (August 15)

5. FAST DAYS AND FAST PERIODS

Four main fast period are induded in the ecclesiastical year. They are:

1.The Great Fast (Lent)--beginning on a Monday 7 weeks before Easter.
2.Fast of the Apostles--varying in length from 1 to 6 weeks; it begins on a Monday, 8 days after
Pentecost, and ends on June 28--the eve of the feast of Saints Peter and Paul.
3.Fast of the Repose of the Virgin Mary--August 1 to 14.
4.Christmas Fast--lasting 40 days, from November 15 to December 24.



much much more...
http://www.goarch.org/access/Companion_to_Orthodox_Church/calendar.html 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 604 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 21, 2002 (20:00) * 1 lines
I still don't understand it. I think I need to rest then try other places and to read this one again.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 605 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 21, 2002 (20:04) * 38 lines
ORTHODOX EASTER

The determination of the date of Easter is governed by a computation based on the vernal equinox and
the phase of the moon. According to the ruling of the First Ecumenical Synod in 325, Easter Sunday
should fall on the Sunday which follows the first full moon after the vernal equinox. If the full moon
happens to fall on a Sunday, Easter is observed the following Sunday. The day taken to be the
invariable date of the vernal equinox is March 21.

Herein lies the first difference in the determination of Easter between the Orthodox Church and the
other Christian Churches. The Orthodox Church continues to base its calculations for the date of
Easter on the Julian Calendar, which was in use at the time of the First Ecumenical Synod. As such, it
does not take into consideration the number of days which have since then accrued due to the
progressive inaccuracy of the Julian Calendar. Practically speaking, this means that Easter may not be
celebrated before April 3 (Gregorian), which had been March 21--the date of the vernal equinox--at the
time of the First Ecumenical Synod. In other words, a difference of 13 days exists between the
accepted date for the vernal equinox then and now. In the West, this discrepancy was addressed in the
16th century through the adoption of the Gregorian Calendar, which adjusted the Julian Calendar still
in use by all Christians at that time. Western Christians, therefore, observe the date of the vernal
equinox on March 21 according to the Gregorian Calendar.

The other difference in the determination of Easter between the Orthodox and other Christian
Churches concerns the date of Passover. Jews originally celebrated Passover on the first full moon
following the vernal equinox. Christians, therefore, celebrated Easter on the first Sunday after the first
full moon following the vernal equinox. After the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. and the other
tragic events which gave rise to the dispersal of the Jews, Passover sometimes preceded the vernal
equinox. This was occasioned by the dependence of the dispersed Jews upon local pagan calendars for
the calculation of Passover. As a consequence, most Christians eventually ceased to regulate the
observance of Easter by the Jewish Passover. Their purpose, of course, was to preserve the original
practice of celebrating Easter following the vernal equinox.

As an alternative to calculating Easter by the Passover, "paschal (Easter) cycles" were devised. The
Orthodox Church eventually adopted a 19–year cycle, the Western Church an 84-year cycle. The use
of two different "paschal cycles" inevitably gave way to differences between the Eastern and Western
Churches regarding the observance of Easter. Varying dates for the vernal equinox increased these
differences. Consequently, it is the combination of these variables which accounts for the different date
of Orthodox Easter, whenever it varies from the rest of Christendom.

http://www.goarch.org/access/Companion_to_Orthodox_Church/calendar.html

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 606 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 21, 2002 (20:06) * 1 lines
Ok, I understand. Again a matter of belief and not necessarily of science. Substance is the important part. I believe God forgives us our confusion with His astronomy.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 607 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (14:13) * 4 lines
I am sure that our confusion with His astronomy is not iniquity. Indeed, substance is the important part. Freedom wants virtue and boldness. I wonder for the mechanism that can correct some truly incorrect or obligatory beliefs.

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 608 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (17:22) * 3 lines
Understanding will never happen with belief structures until we begin to worship the God represented and not the words of man and his manipulations of what he thinks God wants. I suspect it will take a great upheaval in the entire social structure of the entire earth before this happens. Perhaps yet another Adam and Eve after the future destruction of the current earth as we know it.

We have discussed this before - personally if not on Geo - and I hesitate to get into theology here. But, it seems to me that we worship more of what man decided about God than what God has revealed in the world surrounding us. That brings us back to the Muses.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 609 of 777: Julie  (cascadeclimber) * Wed, Apr 10, 2002 (14:00) * 5 lines
Hi Everyone!

I joined Geo several months ago, but never posted anything until now. I see I have been missing out on a lot of fun. For those of you who don't know me my name is Julie and I live in the shaky state of California. Nice place, but really not my favorite. Too much smog and too many people. I would much prefer the beautiful state of Washington deep within the Cascades. Anyway, my biggest interest is volcanoes with earthquakes coming in second. I have a pretty good knowledge about volcanoes, but particularly the Cascade Range which extends from Northern California, thru Oregon and Washington, and part of British Colombia. I have been through the Cascades 3 times and going for the 4th time the end of May to see the Cascades in Washington again. For those of you that are unfamilar with the Cascade Range I will give you a little brief history. The Cascade Range formed about 36 million years ago when the Juan de Fuca plate plunged beneath the North American Plate. The Cascade Range is made up of large strat
volcanoes such as Mt. St. Helens, Mt. Rainer, and Mt. Shasta, lava domes such as Lassen Peak, a caldera called Crater Lake, sheild volcanoes such as the ones in Newberry and Medicane Lake Volcanic areas, and cinder cones such as Cinder Cone (near Lassen Peak). But what is very unusual about these volcanoes is exactly where they are located. Washington and Oregon as you all probably know get a lot of percipitation. This percipitation is what makes the almost rain forest-like enviornment in the Cascades. The west side is thick and lush with trees and ferns. Hidden within these trees and lush plant life there is also hundreds of beautiful waterfalls that cascade down huge basalt slabs and reminants of ancient volcanoes. The east side though is like the deserts in Arizona. Some parts of the east side look a lot like the Grand Canyon as a matter a fact! If anyone has any questions about the Cascade Range feel free to ask me. I have been studying them for many years, including my favoite one, Mt. St. Helens
Thank you Marcia and Rob for telling me abou Geo. I just wish I had paid more attention to it sooner. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 610 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 10, 2002 (14:41) * 5 lines
*HUGS* and welcome to Geo, Julie! Rob will be ecstatic when he returns from his field trip to discover you have not only posted, but have set us up for a whole new topic of great interest and import.

I love the stratovolcanoes of the Cascades. They have a beauty of conformity and symmetry - with snow on their summits - which pleases the senses. Yet, we can all remember what lies beneath this serene majesty - very dangerous and deadly eruptive powers. That makes for an unbeatable combination. Fascination with those mountains is not new to just our lifetimes. I think mankind has worshipped them in one way or another since they first set eyes on them. Any time you want a topic to explore this most worthy of mountain chains, let me know and I will be happy to assist.

Again, Komo Mai and Mahalo for posting! You are like a little sister to me and I am delighted you have posted. Good luck in your exams!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 611 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Thu, Apr 11, 2002 (13:49) * 9 lines
Welcome to foreground Julie,
I am John from Volos, Central-East Greece. My country is shaky too, perhaps more than your state. So, I try to predict our EQ's and not only. If you have any questions about the EQ's or about earthquake prediction, please feel free to ask me. I share my research in Geo, updating my signals every day.

I don't know almost anything about the Cascade Range and its connection with geo-events in the past. I found your short story amazing and very interesting.

Warm welcome wishes from Greece

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 612 of 777: Julie  (cascadeclimber) * Thu, Apr 11, 2002 (14:55) * 2 lines
Thanks John. I feel very welcomed here already. This place is GREAT!! I just hope I will get some time to post. Things are really crazy over here. Finals are in another month and I have so many projects and huge assignments due almost every week now. But this is a great distraction from all my stress. I really don't know much about the seimisity of Greece. I would love to learn though. Oh, I almost forgot to mention in my first post where I am located in relationship to the major faults in the area. The renown San Andreas Fault is about 75-80 miles northeast of me. But the most interesting fault, the Newport-Ingullwood Fault, goes right underneath the college I go to. Even more ironic, the fault is closest to the geology department. I wonder if that was planned? I can walk thru different parts of the campus and see the displacement, especailly in the parking lot near the geology lab. The sidewalk is so broken up its amazing students aren't tripping over it when they walk to the parking lot. I can
t even imagine what would happen if there was a major quake on this fault given the fact it goes thru the college and thru the heart of 6 major cities nearby. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 613 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Apr 11, 2002 (20:53) * 0 lines 
 

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 Response 614 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Apr 11, 2002 (20:54) * 4 lines
Julie, you need a digital camera. We need to see these deformities. How ironic that your field work comes to you instead of your
having to go to find it. It is a bit worrisome, though.

(I told you John was really very special!)

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 Response 615 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Apr 12, 2002 (05:48) * 1 lines
What's the nearest town, Julie?

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 Response 616 of 777: Julie  (cascadeclimber) * Fri, Apr 12, 2002 (08:40) * 2 lines
The nearest towns are Culver City, *Costa Mesa, Newport Beach, Huntington Bech, Long Beach, Seal Beach, Singnal Hill, Compton, Gardena and Inglewood. The Newport Ingullwoood Fault, which I believe is a right-lateral, last ruptured on March 10, 1933 which was about a 6.4 magnitude. The Newport Ingullwood is about 75km long and connets offshore with the Newport Ingullwood-Rose Canyon Fault Zone which is about 90km long.
*Costa Mesa is where the college is located.

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 Response 617 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Apr 12, 2002 (18:59) * 1 lines
Julie is in the Los Angeles Basin, Terry. That whole area is full of little faults and, as Wolfie discovered, hundreds of tiny quakes occur with great regularity.

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 Response 618 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Apr 12, 2002 (21:27) * 1 lines
Thank You John! Your Portal Page is Beautiful. *Hugs* 

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 Response 619 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Apr 12, 2002 (21:33) * 1 lines
http://tvnight.org/geo/

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 Response 620 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sat, Apr 13, 2002 (03:05) * 6 lines
Thank you Marcia,
It is only a beginning. We have to insert there many information things. Also, they remain some corrections. But the beginning is the half of all as we say in Greece. We want and wait criticisms and suggestions from everyone.
Terry, thanks again.

John 


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 Response 621 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sat, Apr 13, 2002 (09:35) * 1 lines
very nice!

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 Response 622 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Apr 14, 2002 (12:38) * 5 lines
I like the copper globe. I tried to copy it for Geo but ended up with the entire title with image instead. If anyone happened upon Geo while i was doing it, I think there might have been a great surprise. I will hunt further for the globe.

We say, "The longest journey begins with the first step"

Hi Wolfie, we were becoming worried about missing you! *HUGS*

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 Response 623 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, Apr 14, 2002 (18:28) * 3 lines
just been really busy, marcia, thanks!! i do check in everyday even if i don't post. *HUGS*

the copper globe is really nice.

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 Response 624 of 777: Julie  (cascadeclimber) * Sun, Apr 14, 2002 (20:23) * 1 lines
While I was studying yesturday, my mind drifted to my trip to Washington that I will be taking in a little over a month. I thought about how cool it would be if all of you could come with me as I tour and climb the Cascade Volcanoces and hike thru one of the most beautiful areas on the west coast. Mom and Dad have given me consent to take the movie camera to Washington with me. I have never video taped while hiking or climbing. It should be a fun experience, hopefully not dangerous. I was talking to Marcia today about this and I asked her if there was a way it could be posted on Geo. She said it looks like it will work. I want to know what you guys think though. Suggestions?? Don't worry, I will be careful. For safety reasons, I don't think I will have the video camera on if I am climbing vertical. But it looks to me like you have just bought a one way ticket to Washington!!

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 Response 625 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 15, 2002 (14:36) * 1 lines
This is such a g reat idea Julie! We can hook it up to a link so it is viewable. That is the way John has posted music using remote links. You be careful and take our eyes with you. What you return with, let me have and I'll be delighted to work with it. This sounds like such a great idea. Perhaps I need to do the same thing the next time I visit the lava flow front on Kilauea!

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 Response 626 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Apr 15, 2002 (17:17) * 1 lines
i think it would be cool--terry, can we run her tape here?

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 Response 627 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Apr 15, 2002 (19:18) * 1 lines
Sure.

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 Response 628 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Apr 15, 2002 (19:33) * 3 lines
oh goodie!! we're going on a vicarious volcano climb!!

marcia, when'd the globe change?

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 Response 629 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 15, 2002 (21:11) * 1 lines
I changed it yesterday. I wanted it to match the one on the portal page but it looked terrible on this light background. On black it is beautiful. How you you like the current one? Or, shall I try globe du jour? I hae one other I also like.

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 Response 630 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Apr 15, 2002 (21:14) * 1 lines
i like this one too! i think it's neat that they spin....

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 Response 631 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 15, 2002 (21:28) * 1 lines
I like it too. Some spin entirely too fast. I found another than has the moon orbiting around it, and one that comes zooming out of infinity to full size, then rotates. They are too busy for what I need, but I do like the gold one I will try tomorrow.

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 Response 632 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Apr 15, 2002 (21:32) * 1 lines
can't wait to see it too!

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 Response 633 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (18:38) * 1 lines
Hello Julie. I'm something of the resident dummy of Geo. By that I mean that I know far less about Geology than anyone else who posts here. Still, I digress. Welcome again.

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 Response 634 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (19:01) * 3 lines
Julie, Don't believe her. Cheryl is our resident fine arts expert and antiquarian. She keeps me on the straight and narrow. *Hugs* It is so good to have you back. Cheryl, have you seen John's new portal to Geo? Look through the links - they are truly splendid.

http://tvnight.org/geo/

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 Response 635 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (17:13) * 1 lines
is it the same portal that the link on the geo page takes us? (cheryl, you are no dummy!)

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 Response 636 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (17:48) * 1 lines
Thank you. *Hugs* Now I'm off to try John's new portal.

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 Response 637 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (20:18) * 3 lines
Yes it is the same as the link under John's and my mailto links on the title page for Geo on Spring. His Geology/ plate tectonics/ volcanology graphics are phenomenal. I have not seen any better anywhere - nor many as good.

Shhhhh! Last night he had another brain storm and came up with a most promising possibility for further research. I am very excited about this new one. I think you will be, too. As soon as he gets it working correctly - if it is feasible - he will put it as another link on the Portal page. Happy Geo *:)

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 Response 638 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (21:27) * 1 lines
oh boy! John's a genius, you hear that John???

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 Response 639 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (22:15) * 3 lines
I have told him often enough but he still insists he is a simple humble man who is working for his Mousa. *:) That is lovely of him to say, but my opinion remains the same. John is indeed a genius.

Yesterday I found an article in "Greeklish" (Greek written in Latin letters) which has proven to be my Rosetta Stone for the Greek language. I can actually read it a little. Mostly, because we have so many English words with Greek roots. I think it does not impress him but I am delighted to at least be able to recognize his name (nominative and accusative tenses) and a few other things. At least I knew what the article pertained to and I sent it on to him for his collection. I'd post it here to safeguard it forever. Perhaps I shall!

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 Response 640 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Thu, Apr 25, 2002 (05:12) * 11 lines
Hi ladies and all,
Indeed I am not something special. I am whole-hog by nature. But I am insistent too. I am not disappointing myself easily. I feel comfortable in Geo and I try to lift up it. I am trying for your sure and complete information. I see a danger if you believe that I am genius. I want to be near to everyone in Geo and not far as is usual with genius man.

I believe that one picture is better than a thousand words. Your good words are the best recompense for me. Thank you. I expect also suggestions or ideas from you. I will try to perform them in my future plans.

That text performs the first noisy entrance of our research in the scientific crazy saloons. I believe that the EARTHQUAKE PREDICTION IS ABSOLUTELY REALIZABLE NOW. But we will NEVER STOP to learn more. Knowledge has no limits.

Sincerely yours

John 


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 Response 641 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Apr 25, 2002 (15:51) * 5 lines
*SIGH* John. You have a singular nature and inquisitive nature which we all appreciate. You are absolutly honest which is of great value in a scientist. We trust your word implicitly. You will never be far from us. I have surrounded you with my heart and that brings all of Geo to your proximity.

I agree that earthquake prediction using your methods is entirely trustworthy and very real. Saving lives is no small challenge. We honor you by calling you genius, but having known a few in my life, I would never wish the reality of such a burden on anyone. A mind so singularly obsessed is self-confining and does not make for good company - except for the owner inside his own mind. Genius is a very lonely business.

How did your interviews with the media go yesterday? Whenever the ground moves in your part of the world, they all want your input. (John has built a better "mousetrap" - the world is beating its way to his door!)

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 Response 642 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Apr 25, 2002 (15:53) * 1 lines
I challenge your opinion that you are not "something special." To me you are a treasure beyond all measure. *Hugs*

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 Response 643 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sat, Apr 27, 2002 (03:32) * 6 lines
Indeed! Some times I feel as inside my own "mousetrap". It is a mixed feeling that contains affliction for people injuries or deaths and satisfaction for my own correct prediction. Believe me this is not so simple.

From the other hand, publicity kills the personal life. I will feel happy if someone can apply and continue my work anywhere on Earth. The question is which wants to save other lives except his life alone.

John 


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 Response 644 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 29, 2002 (22:07) * 1 lines
Please have someone pick up a hard copy of your interivew in ESPRERSSO of Athens, John. I am watching for someone else to mention it since I cannot find even a Greeklish version of ESPRESSO on the internet, and it would be the greatest of luck if I could recognize enough in Greek to discover it.

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 Response 645 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, Apr 30, 2002 (10:04) * 18 lines
Hi All,
From now on you can see also your sky in our Geo Portal.

-Click on Weather, Time & SKY Reports For GEO-Friends

See your time and temperature of your place together with these of the rest Friends in Geo, directly.

-Click on your name and see your weather parameters and forecast for the next days.

-Click on the icon that shows time/temp. on the left of your name and see the sky upwards of your head for the same moment.

I will be happy to answer on any question that you maybe have.

Happy sky explorations!


John 


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 Response 646 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 30, 2002 (17:09) * 1 lines
Thank you for making Geo even better, John. I have always dreamed of having sky charts for each person but had no idea of how to accomplish this. Your solution is perfect. Now, no one has excuses for not knowing what is overhead during the dark hours.

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 Response 647 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Apr 30, 2002 (19:05) * 1 lines
thanks john!!

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 Response 648 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Apr 30, 2002 (19:05) * 1 lines
wait, there's a star chart too?

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 Response 649 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 30, 2002 (19:24) * 1 lines
click on your little temperature and clock icon. See what emerges.

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 Response 650 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, May  1, 2002 (17:40) * 1 lines
found it!!

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 Response 651 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, May  1, 2002 (21:07) * 20 lines
Lovely, isn't it. I cannot begin to guess how he did that, but it involved his finding your coordinates and plugging them into a sky shart program, then placing the correct size map where you find it now. John is absolutley marvelous and never for a single moment do I take for granted what he does to make Geo more exciting and interesting. Warmest Mahalo to John and big *HUGS* of gratitude - and a lei of thanks from me on Lei Day in Hawaii.


The exotic Maile Lei is made from
a vine having 1-3 inch long oval,
leathery, pointed leaves that grow
in pairs. The bark and the leaves
of the Maile vine have a
vanilla-like fragrance. The lei is
fashioned by twisting or knotting
the bark and leaves together in an
open horseshoe style. The maile
vine is becoming increasing rare
due to its exotic appeal. It is
frequently a favorite with men due
to its masculine appearance and
sensual light scent. 




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 Response 652 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, May  1, 2002 (21:09) * 1 lines
There is an anise scent mixed in with the vanilla of the Maile. It is really beautifully fragrant and feels cooling and lovely to wear. It grows on the slope of our volcanoes in Hawaii in the forests.

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 Response 653 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Thu, May  2, 2002 (11:31) * 10 lines
Thanks Marcia
Lei Day in Hawaii is the May Day for us.
We celebrate the arrival of spring countryside in Greece. It is feast day here. We went on a bender usual this day. It depends always on a good company. We make also a garland of flowers and we hang it on the main door or above the main door outside our houses.

We will celebrate officially the May Day on the next Tuesday because we have Great Week now and Easter on Sunday.

What I am doing for Geo is that that I believe must be useful for you: Quick, easy and correct live information.

John 


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 Response 654 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May  2, 2002 (14:43) * 5 lines
How interesting about Greek May Day. When I was a little girl, we also made daisy chains and had May Pole dancing for young ladies. (Fertility rites in formal dress?!) I was too young to remember drinking of strong spirits but that it occurred does not surprise me.

Unfortuately May Day was taken over by the former Soviet Union and the US changed their "Labor Day" to the first Monday in September. It is still a political holiday that my father would not allow us to "celebrate." Again, politics has ruined a great ancient traditional festival. No more daisy chains or flower garlands except in Hawaii. 



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 Response 655 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May  2, 2002 (14:46) * 1 lines
Geo is daunting when you see that 1300+ comments have been posted before you got there and 70+ topics exist. The Portal Page is vital to keeping people informed and for encouraging new people to read us. I am delighted and grateful for your programming, but more than that, I am grateful for your dedication. Your enthusiasm shows in the excellence of the site. *Big grateful Hugs*

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 Response 656 of 777: BJ Boone  (duffuses) * Sat, May  4, 2002 (16:27) * 3 lines
hi,
My name is Bj and I just joined. i do all kinds of things from being a state wildlife rehabber to doing SAR when needed. I train and show dogs when not being over run with babies of all kinds. i'm an outdoor nut who does all kinds of photography.I enjoy talking with people so just give a hollar.
BJ

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 Response 657 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, May  4, 2002 (20:27) * 3 lines
BJ Aloha and welcome. If you cannot find a place to call home here or which fits your interests, please tell me and I will be delighted to make a new topic for you. You sound like a very interesting guy with many great activities. I think you will feel right at home here. We have plenty of canine fans to join your discussion. I like anything outdoors because in Hawaii we have active volcanoes but no snakes or poison ivy.

Again, E Komo Mai (Welcome) 

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 Response 658 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, May  4, 2002 (20:35) * 1 lines
You and Wolfie (also Alpha female as I see you are) should get on famously. meanwhile you can peruse the much neglected of late conference relating to animals http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/springark/all/new

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 Response 659 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, May  5, 2002 (12:23) * 3 lines
This is a suggestion. If you are NOT in the habit of checking seismic activity on John's daily-update graphs, look now. It is fairly easy to determine that Greece or the Balkans is going to have an earthquake. SOON

http://tvnight.org/geo/JohnVolos/Public/pages/inviation.htm

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 Response 660 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, May  5, 2002 (17:48) * 1 lines
hi BJ!! i love the rehabbing stuff and please grace us with your presence in springark!

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 Response 661 of 777: BJ Boone  (duffuses) * Mon, May  6, 2002 (19:53) * 2 lines
Here's a joke. I'm a girl and not a guy. BJ stuck while I was doing SAR. It was easier than shouting Brenda when I was out on the field. Wolf I would love to join you in springark if you can tell me where to find it. I'm knew to this place and still trying to learn to navagate it. Right now I'm typing this with 2 possums ina pouch in my lap and one sitting next to my comp.
BJ

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 Response 662 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May  7, 2002 (00:08) * 1 lines
Hi BJ - I looked you up on Yahoo so others would not assume you were a guy if you were not. Poor Wolfie has had that trouble and even been treated harshly by "liberated women" which is rather hilarious when you think about it. Here is SprinArk. You'll love it there! http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/springark/all/new

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 Response 663 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, May  7, 2002 (17:14) * 1 lines
thanks marcia!! marcia and i do our best to try to keep springark up and running but she has her hands full with geo and me with work. we need some true "experts" in there because all i end up doing is preaching my ideas *grin*

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 Response 664 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Wed, May  8, 2002 (08:04) * 9 lines
Welcome BJ
I am sure that you will find good friends here and perhaps new interesting. We can discuss about everything you want. Feel comfortable and free. We can create a new topic if you are interested for something that is not already included in a topic.

Can you tell as where you live? I need this information in order to include your place in our portal. So, you can find easily time/temperature, weather (recent and forecasts) and your sky map.

Friendly regards from Volos, Greece

John 


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 Response 665 of 777: BJ Boone  (duffuses) * Thu, May  9, 2002 (20:43) * 3 lines
Sure. I live in the beautiful green mountains of Western North Carolina just outside of Asheville. I do have one little question. Since I have no idea what so ever I am doing. In order to get to the bottom of this page do I just continue to scroll down til I hit the bottom or is there some secret short cut.
By the way, I think Greece is one of the most fascinating countries and as I sit and type this to you I have 3 baby possums trying to help me type. i know I'm going to enjoy myself just as soon as I figure out how to navigate here.
BJ

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 Response 666 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May  9, 2002 (21:22) * 5 lines
I use these two urls almost exclusively to navigate and see what is new on Geo
http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all/new

For all new posts on Spring:
http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/confifty/geo

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 Response 667 of 777: BJ Boone  (duffuses) * Sat, May 11, 2002 (20:29) * 6 lines
Marcia,
Thanks. this place is so cool but it can be a little over whelming when you first start out on it. There are so many sites to go to I don't know where to start. I would like to share a site with you guys. If this is a no- no just let me know and I won't do it again but I find it breath -taking and love to go there. It's:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

BJ 

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 Response 668 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, May 11, 2002 (22:25) * 6 lines
Thanks BJ - we can use all the help we can get in here. When I was first offered this conference, it was a blank place on the internet with no name. During the first 10 hours of creation, and with the nurturing care of an expert programmer, I managed to get a title (Geo) background (a rather dark gloomy marble) and one topic - which was all I could think of. Then began the brain dump by me with the encouragement of a few dedicated friends. Now we have 70+ topics and I have to use a printout to remember where some of them are. Do it a bit at a time. There is lots of good stuff among the dry factual stuff, and wandering off-topic is not unknown.

I LOVE this image - thank you for a feast for the imagination and eyes. 




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 Response 669 of 777: BJ Boone  (duffuses) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (00:21) * 4 lines
Marcia,
I'm glad you like the site. If you wonder down and through the archives from over the years there is quite a few pixs from Hawaii hidden among all those shots.
AND thank you for making me feel so welcome.
BJ

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 Response 670 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (11:58) * 3 lines
There is also a spectacular shot of Mt Hekla erupting with a vivid green aurura hovering over it. Btw, for anyone wondering, That is Mauna Loa in the photo I posted, with the Southern Cross above it. Fantastic link! I might just post it elsewhere so we can all enjoy it. I particularly liked the Chinese sprite shot. 



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 Response 671 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (12:50) * 3 lines
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the photo of the planets over Stonehenge, Marcia.

Welcome to B.J.

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 Response 672 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (15:39) * 1 lines
I missed that one!!! Aaaaaaaaaah!!! I'm going back to find THAT one!!! Thanks, Cheryl!

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 Response 673 of 777: BJ Boone  (duffuses) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (19:47) * 5 lines
Marcia,
I'm a web finding freak but I think you all might like this one and it does fit in. This site will take you on a virtual tour of the South Pole.

http://astro.uchicago.edu/cara/vtour/pole/
BJ

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 Response 674 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (21:33) * 1 lines
BJ, I'm also a web-finding freak and I welcome your great additions to my totally OTT collection of bookmarks. Fantastic how those virtual tours work. Mahalo nui loa for making my day with Pole tour. If you notice a snow angel next time you look there, I made it *;)

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 Response 675 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, May 13, 2002 (17:22) * 1 lines
am gonna come back and look at the pics but marcia, do we have a topic for fire? natural fire and what it does to/for our earth?

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 Response 676 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, May 13, 2002 (17:24) * 1 lines
I gues fire would fit in Geo 4 unless you want to make one just for that. We increasingly have natural fires which mess about with us (Geo 4) or manmade ones (Geo 48) Surprise me!

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 Response 677 of 777: Lu  (Lu) * Wed, May 15, 2002 (22:40) * 5 lines
Yuck...

I was just looking at the astronomy pics of the day. Did anyone see the "smog over NY" pic (May 7)? I can just see Ithaca peeking out from under the brown guck...Marcia, I'm movin' out!

~Lu

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 Response 678 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, May 15, 2002 (23:10) * 1 lines
How appalling! It has gotten into the glories of mid New York State? I do know that an hour or more out over the Pacific coming in from Hawaii to California you can see the orange layer of smog hanging out there like a warning we are adding to just by flying. Lu, just breathe out!

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 Response 679 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, May 15, 2002 (23:19) * 3 lines
I caught the image of smog over northern New York State. Those beautiful little finger lakes (excellent for watching rowing races) will show you why they are called that name. Are we the only animals that soil their own nests?!

For an antidote I looked at the planets over Stonehenge. However, I have also seen that orange band at the horizon even in the pristine setting of the ancient megaliths. I would imagine it circles the globe. Kilauea volcano also contributes to this global air pollution, but who better than the very forces that allowed life to exist here in the first place?!

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 Response 680 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 16, 2002 (00:01) * 49 lines
The following concerns a question in a physics degree exam at the University of Copenhagen:

"Describe how to determine the height of a skyscraper with a barometer."

One student replied:

"You tie a long piece of string to the neck of the barometer, then lower the barometer from the roof of the skyscraper to the ground. The length of the string plus the length of the barometer will equal the height of the building."

This highly original answer so incensed the examiner that the student was failed immediately. The student appealed on the grounds that his answer was indisputably correct, and the university appointed an independent arbiter to decide the case. The arbiter judged that the answer was indeed correct, but did not display any noticeable knowledge of physics. To resolve the problem it was decided to call the student in

and allow him six minutes in which to provide a verbal answer which showed at least a minimal familiarity with the basic principles of physics.

For five minutes the student sat in silence, forehead creased in thought.

The arbiter reminded him that time was running out, to which the student

replied that he had several extremely relevant answers, but couldn't make up his mind which to use. On being advised to hurry up the student replied as follows:

"Firstly, you could take the barometer up to the roof of the skyscraper, drop it over the edge, and measure the time it takes to reach the ground. The height of the building can then be worked out from

the formula H=0.5g x t squared. But bad luck on the barometer."

"Or if the sun is shining you could measure the height of the barometer, then set it on end and measure the length of its shadow. Then

you measure the length of the skyscraper's shadow, and thereafter it is a simple matter of proportional arithmetic to work out the height of the

skyscraper."

"But if you wanted to be highly scientific about it, you could tie a short piece of string to the barometer and swing it like a pendulum, first at ground level and then on the roof of the skyscraper. The height

is worked out by the difference in the gravitational restoring force T
=

2 pi sqrroot(l/ g)."

"Or if the skyscraper has an outside emergency staircase, it would be easier to walk up it and mark off the height of the skyscraper in barometer lengths, then add them up."

"If you merely wanted to be boring and orthodox about it, of course, you could use the barometer to measure the air pressure on the roof of the skyscraper and on the ground, and convert the difference in millibars into feet to give the height of the building."

"But since we are constantly being exhorted to exercise independence of mind and apply scientific methods, undoubtedly the best way would be to knock on the janitor's door and say to him 'If you would like a nice new

barometer, I will give you this one if you tell me the height of this skyscraper'."

The student was Niels Bohr, the only Dane ever to win the Nobel prize for Physics. 






 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 681 of 777: Lu  (Lu) * Thu, May 16, 2002 (18:22) * 4 lines
Yeah Niels! He was a rock star--one of my physics heros (strange that I have several in that particular field). Thanks for posting that, Marcia, I was laughing from the very beginning. Clearly the teacher was in way over his head!

LOL,
Lu

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 682 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, May 16, 2002 (19:22) * 1 lines
excellent story!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 683 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 17, 2002 (08:21) * 3 lines
Amazing story Marcia. It shows the way of thinking out of the box. And we have excellent friends that they can think out of the box. You are the first.

John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 684 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, May 18, 2002 (18:04) * 1 lines
*Hugs* John! My father encouraged me to avoind boxes when thinking as much as possible. I think restrained thinking produces limited results. Neils Bohr was certainly a brilliant mind with a sense of humor!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 685 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, May 21, 2002 (04:46) * 3 lines
Indeed! Restrained thinking produces limited results. But the open and not captive mind in combination with strong desire produces new ways.

John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 686 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, May 21, 2002 (17:15) * 1 lines
and a willingness to make mistakes and learn *HUGS*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 687 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 21, 2002 (21:38) * 1 lines
Egos are the only great problem I see in freeing your mind. My sisters renedered mine unusable since early childhood, so I continue to learn and make my mistakes before the whole world. If we do not risk much we cannot gain much! Besides the only shame is in NOT trying! Not in having tried and failed. *Hugs*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 688 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Sat, May 25, 2002 (06:19) * 6 lines
Hi all

About time I came home to Geo. Good to be home.

Rob 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 689 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, May 25, 2002 (14:44) * 1 lines
*Hugs* Rob. You have been busy, but we appreciate any time you come here to hang around. These places can be addicting. Learn where your off-switch is located. Mine is in the permanent "On" position.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 690 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sun, May 26, 2002 (04:28) * 4 lines
Welcome back Rob. I am here too; even if several events including the last strong EQ in Greece are spending my time.

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 691 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, May 26, 2002 (13:20) * 1 lines

Get Well Soon, John



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 692 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, May 27, 2002 (19:43) * 1 lines
*HUGS* John!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 693 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, May 28, 2002 (04:31) * 4 lines
Thank you Wolfie,
I found itself near the juxtaposition between the Greek sismologists. It was proved that they do not want examine our research or they do not want any real prediction. But they have not arguments against us. It is like an unsuccessful joke.

John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 694 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 28, 2002 (15:43) * 1 lines
I think the lack of enthusiasm on John's adversaries' part was not lost on the public who supports them. I consider it a lapse in public trust if they continue to ignore your research and continue to hide in the ivory towers that their university status affords them. I do know a bit about this. I was married to the trade for many years and I could see it in many forms and disciplines. I was not happy to be part of the same society that they inhabited.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 695 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, May 28, 2002 (18:06) * 1 lines
i believe in time that the people will choose--the "scientists" don't want to lose their jobs so they're putting down those with better ideas.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 696 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, May 28, 2002 (21:04) * 3 lines
It is interesting we hear George's opinion.

John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 697 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, May 28, 2002 (21:37) * 2 lines
Yes! I wish we could know more about George and his interests and experiences.
(George was supposed to be my name but I turned out not to be the much desired boy but instead, just another girl!)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 698 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Wed, May 29, 2002 (15:25) * 2 lines

John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 699 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, May 29, 2002 (17:38) * 3 lines
john, you sound like you could use a hug so here:

******HUGS******


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 700 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, May 29, 2002 (17:39) * 3 lines
i used the wrong font size *yikes* lemme try that again!

*****HUGS*****


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 701 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (18:01) * 1 lines
Hope that you're doing better, John.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 702 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (18:02) * 3 lines
Happy Birthday, Marcia! Have a wonderful year! 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 703 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (20:01) * 1 lines
Thanks for remembering and your good wishes, Cheryl. With the fond friendly folks of Geo, how could my year be less than stellar?!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 704 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (20:20) * 1 lines 
 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 705 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (20:23) * 1 lines
Nice post, John! You did a stealth music post I will never understand. But it is very catchy! How positively enchanting! *HUGS* and Thank you in ways only you can understand!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 706 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (20:37) * 1 lines
Aha!! I have fingured it out. There is no sign of the play bar does not show up in Netscape 4.76, but the music plays beautifully nonetheless. John, you are brilliant and so kind. Again, Mahalo Nui Loa.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 707 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (20:42) * 1 lines
However, the playbar is also invisible in Explorer. Some day when I am old enough, you will have to tell me how you did that! Clever man, with only one flaw, our man John! He assumes we all understand what he does. His "simple" calculations for the azimuth of earthquakes in Greece are as clear as mud (another American colloquialism.) *Hugs* For thinking I was a brilliant as you are. I am really not!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 708 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (20:49) * 8 lines
This article is not news to us!


* Being wired helps you connect *
Going online does not make you lonely and sad. Quite the opposite, argues a leading professor of cyber-sociology.
Full story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/-/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2010000/2010672.stm 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 709 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (21:44) * 5 lines
john must be very good because i don't hear a thing *grin*

and because you'll be online before i am tomorrow, my dear sweet twin, (and because i have yet to put ftp back on the system)

HAPPY

BIRTHDAY

MARCIA!!!!!!!!!!!



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 710 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (02:57) * 6 lines
It is my choice to play this song with invisible media player bar. It is loaded and plays automatically using your default media player. It is simply an HTML command.

Have you installed a media player Wolfie? Is this the default player?

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 711 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (03:24) * 5 lines
Hi all

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARCIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very pleased to see Geo's lady of grace finally getting a day of happiness and joy. HUGS AND KISSES.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 712 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (08:59) * 1 lines
Happy Birthday Marci, you are one of our "greats" and a huge supporter! Hope you have the finest possible birthday.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 713 of 777: S B Robinson  (SBRobinson) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (11:02) * 2 lines
Happy Birthday!
You've been a special blessing in my life Marcia! *hugs*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 714 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Jun  1, 2002 (19:57) * 7 lines
BIG Birthday HUGS back to the wonderful people who have a place in my heart because they have come to Geo and have shared their lives with us. I am the happiest of all people because of you! Most amused also (EsBee, you know why!)

Happy thought is that I will be going to the mainland soon and that will be very exciting. Fear not, though. I am taking my laptop with me though my son has threatened to ration my time on the internet this time.

I have yet to get to the volcano. I am hoping to do so Monday when the traffic will not be as conjested as it is on weekends. Thanks again and BIG *HUGS* to everyone.

John you are a very clever man. Only by peeking in our files could I find what program you used. It truly IS invisible. I guess one could make it coming from some sort of graphics file if they so desired.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 715 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Mon, Jun  3, 2002 (02:12) * 5 lines
Hi all

May thy gracious one have a great holiday.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 716 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun  3, 2002 (17:26) * 1 lines
This gracious one is going to celebrate it a week late but in the company of son and daughter-in-law and a few stratovolcanoes. Can it get better than that? Especially since our brush fires continue to burn and the road is closed, so I could not see Kilauea even if I wanted to. She'll understand.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 717 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Jun  3, 2002 (20:16) * 1 lines
oh, i'm so happy for you sweetie!! 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 718 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun  3, 2002 (23:09) * 1 lines
I don't suppose they can hold the wedding again, but I am certain to see many things including her wedding dress. WoooooooooooHooooo I am getting very excited.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 719 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Fri, Jun  7, 2002 (05:30) * 5 lines
Hi all

I want to introduce you to a marvellous piece of classical music with an even more marvellous theme....... Introducing the Mount St. Helens Symphony by Alan Hovhaness. It is a three movement suite. The first is Andante, second is Spirit Lake, and the third is Volcano.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 720 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun  7, 2002 (15:33) * 1 lines
Hi Rob. THAT is what is was. I am not a big fan of Hovhaness. I would not have guessed it in a hundred years of trying. Not nearly classical enough for me!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 721 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Fri, Jun  7, 2002 (20:21) * 6 lines
On the part of Geo Family



John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 722 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Jun  8, 2002 (00:24) * 6 lines

Hauoli Na Hanau, Wolfie



Tuberose
White tropical flowers
accented with island ferns. 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 723 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sat, Jun  8, 2002 (10:08) * 4 lines
Hello all.
See in topic 53 what will enjoy our friends in California on Monday afternoon. Perhaps it is nature's gift to Wolfie's birthday.

John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 724 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sat, Jun  8, 2002 (11:24) * 1 lines
you guys are so sweet! i'm gonna keep an eye out for that eclipse too! thank you very much for the birthday wishes!! *HUGS*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 725 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Jun  8, 2002 (11:39) * 1 lines
We are going to chase it from here. 67% coverage is expected. I can hardly wait

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 726 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Sun, Jun  9, 2002 (04:11) * 8 lines
Be careful all of you!

DANGER!
DO NOT SEE THE SUN WITHOUT PROTECTION FOR YOUR EYES!
See more in topic 53

John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 727 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun  9, 2002 (08:56) * 1 lines
Thank you for this. In past years, I was the one doing the warning, but I think no one looked, anyway. Here the weather is clear and it is VERY windy. With the windchill set at 56 degrees F and felt even lower, last night outside where we watched many satellites and identified them all (including the linked ISS and Shuttle.) We nearly froze in two jackets!!! 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 728 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun  9, 2002 (08:58) * 1 lines
The computer network is a somettime thing. Today is it off and seems willing to remain that way.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 729 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Sun, Jun  9, 2002 (13:29) * 3 lines
Wolfie, sorry for being late; I hope that you had a howling good birthday. Is it okay if I send a virtual scratch on the ears?

Happy (Belated) Birthday, Wolfie.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 730 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sun, Jun  9, 2002 (19:20) * 1 lines
*tail wagging fiercely and foot stomping too* thanks cheryl!! *HUGS*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 731 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (00:00) * 5 lines
Hi all

A bit late, but happy birthday to Wolfie.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 732 of 777: Julie  (cascadeclimber) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (00:11) * 1 lines
My wonderful dog Terry and I want to wish you a very Happy belated Birthday Wolfie!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 733 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (00:17) * 5 lines
Hi all

Busy at University, and not doing super well. I will be away from Geo from time to time especially in the lead up to exams.

Rob

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 734 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (04:14) * 5 lines
Hi Cheryl, Julie and Rob.
The best of luck for you Rob. Have success in your exams. Be you well. The "Super well" is enemy of the "well" I think. So, be you continuously well and happy.

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 735 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (07:49) * 3 lines
Rob, I am gonna email you as soon as I get the new laptop going and/or when I get back from Shasta today. Ace those exams!!! We're all pulling for you!

Good morning John *;)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 736 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (09:54) * 1 lines
Wow , you're in N Calif today, Marci?

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 737 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (16:57) * 3 lines
go Rob!!!

thanks for the birthday wishes, guys!!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 738 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (17:43) * 4 lines
I am indeed in Northern central California. David and I just got home from a day trip to Mt Shasta. Took Pictures. Will post them tomorrow. But on the way we saw Sutter's Buttes, the remnant of what must have been a catalysmic volcanic eruption. Then northward. From over 100 miles away we could see Shasta's conic snow shape against a beautiful California blue sky. In the way we saw Mt Lassen
(will visit that in two days) with snow on it and far in the distance beyond Shasta was the snow-covered cone of Mt McLoughlin in Oregon.

John, I have you logged onto my MSN... I got your request and added you to mine. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 739 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, Jun 11, 2002 (13:09) * 3 lines
It was a very pleasurable trip if I can understand from your words Marcia. It is true that many exciting natural formations are the result of cataclysmic and deadly events.

john

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 740 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun 11, 2002 (20:29) * 1 lines
Along the way, I read aloud the history of the formation of the state of California. The coast range was pushed up isloating an inland sea in what is now the central valley from whence I am talking to you. I will be posting more - all of it fascinating since so much was caused by plate collisions and subsequent volcanic eruptions. I collected pumice and andesite (explosive lava) at Shasta. Tomorrow I collect Obsidian and perhaps some rhyolite. *;)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 741 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Jun 11, 2002 (21:32) * 1 lines
*woohoo* and none of that stuff has curses associated with it!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 742 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Thu, Jun 13, 2002 (16:35) * 5 lines
Hi to John, Marcia, Wolfie, Julie, and Rob, sorry I forgot Terry.

Good luck on your exams.

Terry, I'm sorry it took so long to get back to you on a question you asked me about a month ago. You wanted to know what I thought of the Atlantea site that Spring was hosting. I wanted to visit it a few times before I formed a complete opinion; then I completely forgot to get back to you. It is beautifully designed. It is the site for a novel set in Atlantis and the visuals on the site are great.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 743 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Jun 13, 2002 (20:02) * 1 lines
Lassen was stunning. more on Julie's Cascade topic!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 744 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Tue, Jun 18, 2002 (06:47) * 8 lines
Hi all

Exam time is getting closer here and things are fairly busy as I draw closer to the time. I want to wish Julie good luck for her operation on June 18. She still has reservations but after she put her beloved dog down on Saturday, it occurred to her that if her dog, Terry (not PTW), can put up with crap kidneys for 12 years then she can put up with the operation. You go Julie.

Hugs to/from a freezing city in the wintry South Island...

Rob 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 745 of 777: S B Robinson  (SBRobinson) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (10:04) * 2 lines
Just popping to to wish Wolf a belated Birthday!
*hugs* Wolfie Dear :-)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 746 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (16:50) * 1 lines
thanks EsBee!!!!!!!!!!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 747 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul  9, 2002 (14:18) * 3 lines

Happy Birthday, GEO





 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 748 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Tue, Jul  9, 2002 (16:30) * 1 lines
it's geo's birthday??? *WOOHOO*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 749 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (02:36) * 9 lines
We must celebrate the THIRD BIRTHDAY OF GEO with a Great Welcome to Donald in topic 17.

Unfortunately topic 17 is disappeared from the usual Links (All and Activity within last week) of GEO.

For those who are interested on the archaeology topic please use the followed link until Terry can correct it:
http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/public/read/Geo/17/since/-7

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 750 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (03:44) * 7 lines



CONGRATULATIONS MARCIA FOR YOUR PERFECT CREATION


John

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 751 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (09:41) * 3 lines
*HUGS* to everyone for making this birthday especially sweet. I also cannot find Geo 17 - Archaeology on my all/new link. Terry, please help!

John, You are The BEST! Geo is much richer in content for having known you. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 752 of 777: Rob Glennie  (AotearoaKiwi) * Fri, Jul 12, 2002 (03:07) * 12 lines
Hi all

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR GEO
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU

THREE CHEERS FOR GEO!!! Hip Hip Hooray!! Hip Hip Hooray!! Hip Hip Hooray!!

Rob 



 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 753 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Fri, Jul 12, 2002 (10:06) * 1 lines
*WOOHOO*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 754 of 777: Maggie  (sociolingo) * Sun, Jul 14, 2002 (07:01) * 1 lines
I almost missed it! Happy Birthday Geo! HUGS to Marcia ....

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 755 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 16, 2002 (18:33) * 1 lines
Hi Maggie! Thanks all for the celebration. I think I actually have it all figured out and running smoothly again on my laptop. I'll be posting regularly again, but not as well as John has been doing...*sigh*

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 756 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Mon, Jul 22, 2002 (03:59) * 8 lines
Hi Maggie,
Do you want your name in our Time-Weather-Sky page in Geo portal? If YES, please inform me for the place where you live.

See what is this list here:
http://tvnight.org/geo/JohnVolos/Public/Portal/WEATHER/Friends_allL.htm

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 757 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 22, 2002 (20:26) * 1 lines
Maggie lives in Reading, England UK

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 758 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 23, 2002 (13:33) * 9 lines
Persied Meteor Shower
This weekend Earth will enter the outskirts of a cloud of comet debris.
It marks the beginning of the annual Perseid meteor shower, which peaks
on August 12th and 13th. The warmth of northern summer makes the Perseids
one of the year's most inviting sky shows.

FULL STORY at
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/19jul_perseids.htm?list89800 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 759 of 777: Julie  (cascadeclimber) * Tue, Jul 23, 2002 (16:43) * 1 lines
I watch that one and the Geminods meteor shower every year. And just like last year, I will be in the darkness of the desolate areas in Oregon to watch it, and maybe Crater Lake again the day it peaks. There is nothing better than watching it in total darkness, where you can easily see the orange and yellow colors soar thru the sky and the wipsy tails of dust trailing behind. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 760 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Tue, Jul 23, 2002 (20:01) * 8 lines
Hi Maggie
Thanks to Marcia, your name already exists in our Time-Weather-Sky page in Geo portal.

Find it here:
http://tvnight.org/geo/JohnVolos/Public/Portal/WEATHER/Friends_allL.htm

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 761 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 24, 2002 (20:15) * 1 lines
Julie, you watch for me. In smoggy Louisville it is difficult to see the moon on a good night. Venus is about all I can see overhead other than Arcturus. SIGH!!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 762 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 25, 2002 (09:56) * 1 lines
Wonder if Kerwin Fischer is still kicking around Louisville, he was a good friend. 

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 763 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (10:17) * 1 lines
Looking for him in the Phone book... Only one that might apply is a K Fischer. The other one is Karen. He may, of course, have an unlisted number!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 764 of 777: John Tsatsaragos  (tsatsvol) * Mon, Aug 12, 2002 (21:14) * 19 lines
Lightning strikes zap UK's modems
14:12 12 August 02

Power surges caused by lightning strikes in Britain have been blamed for record incidents of damage to computer modems.

A tenfold increase in orders for replacement modems was recorded by retailer PC World in the days following the latest serious thunderstorm on 7 August.

Managing director Simon Turner says: "Our support staff have been sending out replacement modems at 10 times the normal rate, suggesting the recent bad weather could be to blame. Modems are vulnerable to power surges caused by lightning strikes."

Electrical components can be burnt out by brief spikes in voltage caused by lighting strikes to outside power equipment or telephone lines. Computer equipment can be guarded against this sort of damage using power surge protection equipment. This sits between a computer and a phone or power socket and diverts excess voltage.

Alex Machado, power protection product manager at hardware company Belkin, says many people are unaware that power surges can travel through a telephone line as well as through a power line.

"Lightning is certainly one of the most common causes of damage to a computer," he says. In addition to hardware damage, lightning strikes can lead to the loss of data from computers. But Machado notes that data loss is more commonly caused by power failures.

Source: NewScientist.com news service

John 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 765 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 12, 2002 (21:35) * 3 lines
I have at home a serious set of surge protectors and auxiliary power units. Thank you, John! I thought most people would have backup systems by now.

I see your great quake hit the Australia region. I have seen no reports of damage, but I have also been away from computer and news for a few days.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 766 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 12, 2002 (21:35) * 1 lines 
 


 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 767 of 777: _cosmo_  (aa9il) * Wed, Aug 14, 2002 (13:07) * 6 lines
Hi Marci

Hurry back to your computer soon! We miss your postings!

73 de Mike
r-c-i

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 768 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Aug 14, 2002 (15:02) * 1 lines
Second that! And Hawaii's Kileua is going berzerk while you're gone, Marci!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 769 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Wed, Aug 14, 2002 (15:20) * 1 lines
Mme. Pele wants Marcia to come home.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 770 of 777: _cosmo_  (aa9il) * Wed, Aug 14, 2002 (15:52) * 9 lines
and, hi again...

Although probably more suited for paraspring, this weekend on the Art Bell
Show, there was a discussion of ghosts, spirits, hauntings, and legends
of Hawai'i. Most interesting indeed! The guest speaker was Glen Grant
who I think produces a radio show there.

73 de Mike
r-c-i

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 771 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Aug 15, 2002 (12:52) * 5 lines
Ah yes, the Night Marchers. My son and I used to hear nose-flute music of a most peculiar sort on occasion at night while in his old car. It was not scary but when we thought about it for long enough it became decidedly creepy.

Art Bell often talks to denizens of The Big Island some of who live just above me on the Volcano highway. I can't seem to get him here but I am sure he is busily making the rest of us look terribly mundane since we cannot see or hear what he is seeing and hearing. About those crossed contrails... I saw a lot of them on the trip to Tennessee. Nothing untoward happenede, though. I was disappointed!

Hugs for missing me! I am back full of good things to tell you.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 772 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sat, May 29, 2004 (12:50) * 1 lines
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARCIA!!! (luv the background music!!!!!)

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 773 of 777: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jun  5, 2004 (09:15) * 1 lines
Happy Birthday!!!!

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 Response 774 of 777: Cheryl  (CherylB) * Sat, Jun  5, 2004 (14:02) * 3 lines
I'm late because I've been computerless for about a two weeks. Since the we've moved at work, I haven't had the internet there, either. Enough excuses...now for something really important...

Happy (Belated) Birthday Marcia!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 775 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun 25, 2004 (19:38) * 1 lines
Wow thanks!!! I am late returning here since we were all working on the house and fell into stuporous sleep during the evenings. In Louisville, they scheduled three tornado-possible evacuations to the basement. I thought it was exciting but wanted to watch it happening... I happily have a "keeper" who insists I take cover whenever the sirens sound, so I must "see" it vicariously through the little tv in the safe room or listen to the damage reports on my service scanner radio.

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 776 of 777: Curious Wolfie  (wolf) * Sat, Jun 26, 2004 (11:50) * 1 lines
well, you really should watch the sky BEFORE the tornado, then seek shelter immediately. the sky is really interesting to see!

 Topic 20 of 92 [Geo]: Introductions and Suggestions
 Response 777 of 777: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul  6, 2004 (19:19) * 1 lines
Oooh Wolfie, if only...! I get yanked into sensibility by a caring housemate so I obediently make haste for the basement. We have been chasing up anddown thes stairs all day while dodging some impressivly violent thunderstorms. I'll keep my eyes to the sky while I still am allowed to do so. I just MUST see a tornado from a distance!
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