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Topic 21 of 55: The impressionists

Sat, Aug 8, 1998 (05:58) | Riette Walton (riette)
This is probably my favourite topic.
The age of impressionism started in the middle of the 19th century as painters began to look at reality with a new alertness. Academic conventions became almost pointless to many artists - they wanted to paint life as it truly was. They rejected idealiz
ed and emotional themes, but sought ot go much much further. For the first time artists got out of their studios, and painted outside, trying to capture the fleeting effeccts of light, give the impression of a passing moment. It was the poetry of here an

now.
74 responses total.

 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 1 of 74: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (07:28) * 34 lines 
 
From http://longwood.cs.ucf.edu/~MidLink/Impress.html

Impressionist art is a style in which the artist captures the image of an
object as someone would see it if they just caught a glimpse of it. They
paint the pictures with a lot of color and most of their pictures are
outdoor scenes. Their pictures are very bright and vibrant. The artists
like to capture their images without detail but with bold colors. Some of
the greatest impressionist artists were Edouard Manet, Camille Pissaro, Edgar Degas,
Alfred Sisley, Claude Monet, Berthe Morisot and Pierre Auguste Renoir.

Manet influenced the development of impressionism. He painted everyday
objects. Pissaro and Sisley painted the French countryside and river
scenes. Degas enjoyed painting ballet dancers and horse races. Morisot
painted women doing everyday things. Renoir loved to show the effect of
sunlight on flowers and figures. Monet was interested in subtle changes in
the atmosphere.

Some places you can see the works of these impressionist artists areNetscape:Web
museum:L'impressionism

among others are Soho Print Poster-Impressionist and HREF="http://www.secondnature.com/art.htm">Impressionists Subject
Page
. There are many impressionist artists that you can see, but our
favorite is Claude Monet. You can see some of his works at The Web Museum Network .



This famous painting, Sunrise, was painted by Claude Monet. He
displayed it at a Paris art show and because of the patchy texture, it
caused one critic to call the whole show impressionist, which gave
the movement it's name. Monet had a fascination with light and that led
him to not only paint this picture, but also several others showing the
same effect on different objects.




 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 2 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (09:20) * 15 lines 
 
I like Monet too, but I really can't always decide on a favourite impressionist; sometimes he is my favourite, and sometimes somebody else is. They were all wonderful in their own way, because they are the ones who, in my opinion, turned art into someth
ing truly creative and something to be admired and loved by everyone, not just people with status or money or a great education.

But why don't we start at the beginning, with the Pre-Raphaelites. Pre-Raphaelism was a movement started by a group of young artists in England who reacted aginsts the 'art of the day'. Their ambitions was to bring English art back to a greater 'truth t
o nature'. The first painting I would like to post here was done by Millais in the middle 1800's. It is a picture which depicts Shakespeare's tragic story of Ophelia who was driven to madness and suicide by Hamlet's murder of her father, Polonius. You

robably know this painting, but I'll post it anyway, because the beautiful flowers floating on the surface of the water are not merely there for decoration, but fulfilled a strong symbolical purpose, as they each had a traditional meaning.

Daisies meant Innocence
Poppies meant Death
Roses meant Youth
Pansies stood for Love in vain
Violets symbolized Faithfulness

Also it is a truly exquisite painting, and defenitely deserves a place here.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 3 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (07:06) * 8 lines 
 
So, here in all its glory:



Sir John Everett Millais
"Ophelia"
1851-52
75 x 112cm


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 4 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (07:09) * 3 lines 
 
Apparently Millais spent four months painting the background vegetation on the same spot in Surrey, England. Then he went back to London, and painted his model, Elizabeth Siddal, posing in a bath full of water. The result is indeed oddly disconnected, a
slmost as if the water, the flowers, the grass and leaves, and finally the girl did not quite belong together, each keeping its own truth.
I find it a wonderful, haunting painting.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 5 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (17:46) * 1 lines 
 
i like it...


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 6 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (03:38) * 1 lines 
 
I find it haunting.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 7 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (04:26) * 10 lines 
 
Another wonderful neo-impressionist painting is this one by Georges Seurat (1859-91).



Georges Seurat
Paris, 1859
'Sunday Afternoon on the Island of the Grande Jatte'
202cm x 300cm

A typical Sunday afternoon at the Grand Jatte, a popular site on an island in the River Seine to the north-west of Paris. When this painting was first shown it was received with treat indignation by most artists and critics of the day. They disapproved of Seurat's revolutionary new painting technique, known as Pointillisme. The surface of the painting is broken up, with the colour painted onto the canvas as tiny dots of pure colour. The result is a mesmerizing haze of brilliant colour.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 8 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (17:39) * 2 lines 
 
this one doesn't appeal to me, it seems rigid...they don't look like they're having
fun.....


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 9 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (22:11) * 3 lines 
 
"Ophelia" is pretty disturbing--how'd you like that one hanging over your sofa??

I like the Pointilist technique; though there are others by Seurat I like better, there are none so popular as this one.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 10 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (01:39) * 3 lines 
 
Blame it on the fashions of those days, Wolf - they just couldn't breathe, that's all!!

I bet Charles Manson would have loved for Ophelia to be hanging over his sofa!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 11 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (01:56) * 10 lines 
 
Okay, here's another of my favourites - you girls are so hard to please!!!
°BIG SMILE°



Claude Monet (1840-1926)
'Poppies' 1873
50cm x 64cm

Post your favourites too, will ya!! Or tell me what your favourites are, and I'll go look for them, and post them.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 12 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (11:14) * 1 lines 
 
now i like this one. as a child, i remember wondering through fields. this is so much more relaxed than the first one posted. didn't monet do one with irises or water lilies?


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 13 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (13:29) * 10 lines 
 
Yes, Monet did some water lilies. I find his style and that of Renoir so similar in some ways (probably because the two worked together so closely during the late 1860s, painting the same sort of scenes. I mostly prefer Renoir, because I find his work a bit more 'solid' than Monet's. Monet's attention seems always to have been fixed on the ever changing light, while Renoir seems to have been entranced by people. But he was capable of capturing both the changing light and the person he painted with equ
l vividness, yet in a way that doesn't detract attention from either.
Here is a good example:



Pierre-Auguste Renoir (1841-1919)
'The Swing'
1876
92cm x 73cm


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 14 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (14:08) * 2 lines 
 
this one is nice and relaxing. i love the inclusion of the little girl waiting
her turn (probably wondering why this lady is on HER swing)


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 15 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (01:35) * 1 lines 
 
Yes, precisely - that is just what makes him such a wonderful painter. He is SUCH a keen observer.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 16 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (21:17) * 1 lines 
 
Stunning. I always loved Renoir's "Girl with a Watering Can" and "Two Sister on a Terrace." The gorgeous irises you're thinking of, Wolf, are by Van Gogh.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 17 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (06:40) * 10 lines 
 
Here you go:



Vincent van Gogh
'Irises'
1889
71cm x 90cm

How about devoting a topic to this incredible artist?


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 18 of 74: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (07:08) * 1 lines 
 
Splendid idea. Please open it.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 19 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (07:17) * 1 lines 
 
Will do.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 20 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (17:47) * 1 lines 
 
do you have water lilies?


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 21 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (01:35) * 10 lines 
 
Here you go, Wolfie!



Claude Monet
"Water Lilies (The Clouds)"
1903
74.6cm x 105.3cm

Fantastic, isn't it? Would you like me to open a topic on Monet?


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 22 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (22:22) * 2 lines 
 
yes, let's! i love the reflection of the clouds, it's as if saying the picture
doesn't end where i paint it, see that's water and the clouds are there....


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 23 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (01:18) * 1 lines 
 
Yes, exactly. It is as if his pictures don't end where the canvas does. They just go on and on. I'll open his topic today.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 24 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (14:28) * 1 lines 
 
I have a huge poster of water lilies that I bought in Giverney--it's the first thing I see when I wake up in the morning.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 25 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (11:25) * 1 lines 
 
That sounds just like you.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 26 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (11:30) * 5 lines 
 
Here's a typical Degas for those of you who are fans:






 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 27 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (11:31) * 5 lines 
 
Oh dear, nearly forgot:

Edgar Degas
'The Dancing Lesson'
1871-1874


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 28 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (18:31) * 1 lines 
 
Big fan here! Love his ballerinas as well as other occupations--remember "The Millinery Shop?" Great hats.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 29 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (02:11) * 1 lines 
 
Well, great - I'll see to it that we have more Degas in here then.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 30 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (07:57) * 9 lines 
 
Let's see if a summery painting by Bazille pleases you more than the Seurat I posted earlier....



Frédéric Bazille (1841-70)
'Summer Scene'
1869

I adore it anyway!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 31 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (11:13) * 1 lines 
 
i dunno, looks like an obsession commercial....


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 32 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (15:12) * 1 lines 
 
ha-ha!!! An obsession commercial????? What's that?!?!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 33 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (16:05) * 2 lines 
 
all these models standing around a nondescript backdrop just staring into space
and stuff.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 34 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (00:46) * 1 lines 
 
And I thought you'd like all those nice boy bums! But it's difficult to tell with wolves, isn't it? ha-ha! I'll try and find something with a juice squirrel or rabbit - perhaps THAT'LL make your mouth water.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 35 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (11:25) * 1 lines 
 
how about some juicy manly men?


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 36 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (12:14) * 1 lines 
 
sounds good!! I'll go have a look.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 37 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (21:55) * 1 lines 
 
Ha ha!! They do have that disinterested "whatever!" Calvin Klein look, don't they?


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 38 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (21:59) * 2 lines 
 
yes!! especially the dude against the tree! will have to find a CK obsession ad
to post here for riette's benefit...


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 39 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (01:46) * 3 lines 
 
NOOOO PLEEEEEEEZE!!!

I never LOOKED further up than those little striped bums, so I apologize for the faces.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 40 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (01:43) * 7 lines 
 


Eduard Manet (1832-1883)
'On the Beach'
1873




 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 41 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (12:52) * 2 lines 
 
she looks like she's wearing sneakers! it must be a cold day to hang out there
but the sound of the water draws them to be near it.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 42 of 74: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (17:05) * 2 lines 
 
Wearing sneakers, is she under contract to Nike?



 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 43 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (01:31) * 3 lines 
 
HA-HA!!

Maybe she's just getting ready for a game of beach volleyball once she finishes reading her Vogue magazine!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 44 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (13:12) * 9 lines 
 
Here's a pretty neat one by an American artist of the 1800's.



Martin Johnson Heade (1819-1904)
'Approaching Storm: Bear Near Newport'
1860

I think the light in this painting is just brilliantly done.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 45 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (13:07) * 9 lines 
 
Here's another Yankee painting....

carnaval

Mary Cassatt (1844-1926)
'Two Women Throwing Flowers During Carnaval'
1872

I've read a bit about this artist - that she was an American painter and printmaker who worked mostly in Paris, and very much admired Degas. But this is the first time I've seen her work. Think it's excellent.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 46 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (22:39) * 1 lines 
 
I love Cassatt's work, but had never seen this one before. The color's a bit lackluster, I think.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 47 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (01:04) * 1 lines 
 
I admire her wonderful presentation of the two women. So beautifully drawn, and the expression on the fat one's face is just lovely.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 48 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (01:21) * 1 lines 
 
At the moment I feel we're falling around a bit in the topics. Do you like that, or should I work through the different artists more thoroughly? I could for instance for a few days post a few pics covering the active period of a certain artist for us to discuss - that way we'll get to know him better as an artist, and see how his/her work progressed over the years. And the same with the other topics. Would that not be more interesting? You decide - it's just a suggestion.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 49 of 74: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (01:40) * 6 lines 
 
If I knew anything about art, I wouldn't need this
here conference now would I? You lead, Mistress, and
we shall follow.


(or not, as you well know...)


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 50 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (03:39) * 3 lines 
 
ha-ha!!! I'll try and create a bit more order than, if that's alright by all of you!

°big hug, muffin!°


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 51 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (23:17) * 1 lines 
 
Bring on the retrospectives!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 52 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (01:42) * 1 lines 
 
will do!!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 53 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (09:43) * 3 lines 
 
we're here to learn. you know, i could probably CLEP Art Appreciation after all
the stuff we've discussed in this conference. keep up the good work, riette. heck,
i spend more time in here than my own conference *grin*


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 54 of 74: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (12:13) * 1 lines 
 
(me, too...look how I've let all of mine go...)


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 55 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (16:59) * 1 lines 
 
well, at least people are visiting your conferences!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 56 of 74: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (17:25) * 2 lines 
 
I run through your's at least once a week...
sooner, if I see responses!!!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 57 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (18:44) * 2 lines 
 
yeah, i'll go into the participants section and check to see if anyone's been
there lately.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 58 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (02:15) * 1 lines 
 
And as soon as my head recovers I am going to read your poetry.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 59 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (12:08) * 1 lines 
 
no rush! really!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 60 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (14:26) * 1 lines 
 
I know - but I can't wait! I admire people who write well - I'm not good enough at any specific language to be able to. Not to mention lack of talent.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 61 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (14:44) * 5 lines 
 
untitled

Zacharie Astruc (1833-1907)

Although I could find neither title, nor date for this painting, its creator deserves a place in this topic, as he was one of the first champions of Impressionism. Astruc was a sculptor, painter and art critic, and participated in the very first Impressionist exhibition, as well as the Exposition Universalle of 1900.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 62 of 74: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (15:01) * 2 lines 
 
the girl is holding, perhaps, what looks like a sewing box and the woman is taking
her tea with crumpets. interesting....


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 63 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (21:51) * 1 lines 
 
It's a very nice family tableau--wonder if it's his family.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 64 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Sep  7, 1998 (01:18) * 1 lines 
 
No idea! I quite like the picture too - the colouring is a bit unusual, but nice.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 65 of 74: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Sep  7, 1998 (12:18) * 1 lines 
 
whereas I would throw it on the bonfire, I think...


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 66 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Sep  7, 1998 (15:10) * 1 lines 
 
Will do! Don't want my loggers-in to be unhappy with the things I post!!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 67 of 74: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Sep  7, 1998 (15:19) * 1 lines 
 
don't tell me you listen to the critics, too...


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 68 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep  8, 1998 (01:25) * 1 lines 
 
Always! Some people just THINK I don't! Go look in Bonfire II if ya don't believe me!!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 69 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (04:00) * 10 lines 
 
Okay, in a more ordered fashion, let's explore the work of an early impressionist.

Bench

Eduard Manet (1832-1883)
'Bench'
Before 1860

Eduard Manet was one of the first artists to manage the jump from Realism to Impressionism.
I find this a very gentle painting - wonder what the painter was like as a person.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 70 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (22:10) * 1 lines 
 
I love it, it's so inviting! Makes me wish it were my garden.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 71 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep 17, 1998 (01:04) * 1 lines 
 
Hmm - I'd love to have my husband alone on a bench like that for two hours....who knows, I might still have my little boy!


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 72 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep 27, 1998 (04:48) * 8 lines 
 


Eduard Manet
'Olympia'
1863

This painting caused great outrage when it was exhibited at the Salon in Paris. The reclining nude (who was based on Titian's 'Venus of Urbino') with her blatant sexuality was thought a blatant affront to accepted standards of morality. One critic wrote of it,
'Art sunk so low does not even deserve reproach.'


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 73 of 74: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Oct  1, 1998 (14:23) * 1 lines 
 
I always liked Olympia! The Met. Museum of Art even sells the reproduction chokers.


 Topic 21 of 55 [art]: The impressionists
 Response 74 of 74: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Oct  2, 1998 (05:13) * 1 lines 
 
I like her too. She looks so comfortable with, and proud of her nudity/sexuality.

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