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Topic 33 of 55: Black Art

Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (01:31) | Riette Walton (riette)
Let's get down and discuss it!!
49 responses total.

 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 1 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (01:37) * 8 lines 
 
I thought we could start with the Harlem Renaissance Artists.



William H. Johnson
'Swing Low Sweet Chariot'

This looks very much like the kind of black art you see in Africa too; I find it vibrant and intriguing.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 2 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (16:13) * 3 lines 
 
love how he paid attention to knees and elbows! are the girls angels? was trying
to figure out what the pink feathers were for. this piece is interesting. i love
the unpretentiousness of it....


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 3 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (00:51) * 1 lines 
 
Yes, I think they are indeed angels. Though I'm not sure about the interpretation of the picture either. If there are more similarities between African and American black artists, then it could be that this has something to do with a folktale - but I'm not sure. But another thing I find astonishing with this type of art, is the rhythm, the music in it. The colours, the figures, even the way the horse with the chariot jumps - there is a really strong rhythm in this painting. It's great.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 4 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (01:10) * 7 lines 
 


Loïs Mailou Jones
'Les Fetisches'
1938

Very powerful, hey? And I think we can all tell from the title what this might be about. I like the way the magic/black magic theme is incorporated. The girl becomes tiny as she is engulfed by the obsession, as if her lover or admirer was trying to lure her to him through magic. Or perhaps the artists intended some very different meaning - but it's fun to speculate.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 5 of 49: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (22:12) * 1 lines 
 
Reminds me of the dada art of the surrealist movement.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 6 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (01:51) * 1 lines 
 
I don't like dada art. But shall I open a topic anyway? It does play quite a role in the art of this century.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 7 of 49: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (07:37) * 2 lines 
 
Sure, mama open dada.



 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 8 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (09:08) * 3 lines 
 
ha-ha! Okay, Mr. Walha!

Hey guys, sorry I can't put in photos for you today - I only have a few minutes; got a guy, whose doctoral thesis my husband is supervising, coming over from Oxford tonight, and have to attend a vernisage. °sigh° I hate that mingling thing. Damn, what'll I cook - I can't cook!!!! Fondue? In this weather? $hit, who cares? Fondue it'll be.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 9 of 49: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (09:35) * 3 lines 
 
What's the thesis on and what's that word you used that
starts with v?



 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 10 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (11:24) * 1 lines 
 
no kidding! and what line of work is your husband in?


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 11 of 49: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (23:29) * 9 lines 
 
not to butt in and all, however
there's a hymn/spiritual that goes something like this...

"...looked over Jordan and what did I see,
Coming for to carry me home,
A band of angels coming after me,
Coming for to carry me home

Swing low, sweet chariot, coming for to carry me home..."


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 12 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (01:24) * 5 lines 
 
Oh, so that's what the painting is all about! THANKS, Wer!!

The thesis is on William Furtwängler, Organicism in his music, and the whole controversy surrounding his career in Germany during World War II.
A Vernisage is the official opening of an exhibition (and it was a pain!!).
Chris is a music historian and conductor.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 13 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (14:17) * 7 lines 
 
Here is a very very sweet one:



William H. Johnson
Untitled
1940-41


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 14 of 49: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (17:19) * 3 lines 
 
He has been influenced by the work of Riette Walton.




 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 15 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (18:08) * 1 lines 
 
i like this one. is the little boy hitch-hiking?


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 16 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (01:01) * 3 lines 
 
What warped ideas you have sometimes, Terry! Couldn't paint like that if I tried.

And, ha-ha, Wolf!!! It really looks like he's hitch-hiking, doesn't it? You've got such sharp eyes for these things!!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 17 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (12:48) * 3 lines 
 
you know, it's the whole composition, mom's waiting with their baby girl and
dad's trying to get it started with junior and he just looks like he's got his
thumb out cuz dad ain't never gonna get it started!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 18 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (01:43) * 1 lines 
 
ha-ha!!!! There speaks the ultimate art interpreter - you should become an art critic, Wolf. At least people will start to enjoy reading about art! I love your comments!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 19 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (14:57) * 1 lines 
 
HAHA!!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 20 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (04:24) * 7 lines 
 
Here's a truly gorgeous one:

Jardin du Luxembourg

Loïs Mailou Jones
'Jardin du Luxembourg'
c. 1948


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 21 of 49: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (22:49) * 1 lines 
 
WOW!! This one just takes you in and makes you part of the square.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 22 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (01:11) * 1 lines 
 
Yes, you're right - it has a very IMMEDIATE quality about it. Lovely.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 23 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (01:32) * 7 lines 
 


Hale Woodruff
'Afro Emblams'
1950

What do you think of this one?


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 24 of 49: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (11:28) * 1 lines 
 
hmmm...


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 25 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (12:09) * 2 lines 
 
had a hard time figuring this one out-the pic is too big to see at once so it
seems really busy. thought i saw a chair......


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 26 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (12:59) * 1 lines 
 
I find it wonderful in a very abstract way. Not a clue about the interpretation, I must confess! But the colours are wonderful - I'd love to have this hanging in the living room of my flat on the Namibian coast. The blue would go so perfectly with the sea, and the pastel dunes that one sees from the kitchen windows will form a wonderful contrast.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 27 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (15:17) * 1 lines 
 
that sounds so pretty!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 28 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (01:19) * 1 lines 
 
To me it's the most beautiful place on earth.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 29 of 49: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (21:15) * 1 lines 
 
This one is not for me, but I bet it would look great in your house, Riette!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 30 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep 11, 1998 (00:55) * 1 lines 
 
Let's just say it would blend in with the chaos....


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 31 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (04:22) * 6 lines 
 


William H. Johnson
'Flowers'

Wonderful painting!!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 32 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (19:23) * 1 lines 
 
what a pretty bouquet and look how he included some of the petals on the doily..


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 33 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (00:56) * 1 lines 
 
Yes, and the colours! He just composed the whole painting so beautifully. The colours almost LOOK like the shapes of the flowers. Not to mention the gorgeous background.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 34 of 49: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (22:16) * 1 lines 
 
It's so vibrant it could be illuminated. Ok, turn it off now!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 35 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep 17, 1998 (01:15) * 1 lines 
 
ha-ha!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 36 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep 27, 1998 (10:18) * 7 lines 
 


John T. Biggers
'Shotgun, Third Ward'
1966

Does anyone know about Black American history of the 1960's? I would like to find out about the context in which this painting was done.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 37 of 49: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Oct  1, 1998 (14:28) * 1 lines 
 
As blacks lobbied for civil rights in the 60s, a lot of (southern) black churches were burned to the ground. Blacks were lynched, tortured, and beaten to be "taught a lesson."


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 38 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Oct  2, 1998 (05:15) * 1 lines 
 
Thank you, Autumn. How moving. I find the figure on the woman on the left with her arms behind her back particularly poignant.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 39 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (18:49) * 2 lines 
 
uh-oh, what did i miss? i'll go back (southern black churches have been burnt here
rather recently-it's really sick)


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 40 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (18:57) * 13 lines 
 
oh my gosh--i thought this was a happy painting because the red glow in the back
made me think of a sunset and i thought the children were dancing. didn't occur
to me that it was a fire and the church had been burnt down. just thought it was
an old church. well, now that i know what's going on---the woman with her hands
clasped behind her back makes me think that she feels helpless and this is a fact
of life. like, there's nothing she can do but stand there and watch. it's a shame
how ignorant people can be to think that just because one is different from another doesn't
mean the one is superior. it's wonderful we are all different no matter what skin
tone, nationality, or sex. my goodness, we all cry when we're sad, you know? i
can't understand why this stuff still goes on in this day and age. and i don't
understand what this tolerance stuff is all about. we should accept each other,
not just tolerate--i mean, that doesn't change the meaning of what the ignorant believe-it just means, ok, you don't have to accept other cultures, just put up
with them for a while. that's sad.


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 41 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (18:57) * 1 lines 
 
sorry, got up on my soapbox....


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 42 of 49: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (03:35) * 1 lines 
 
No, no - your response makes alot of sense. I don't see the sense in it either. I mean, why is it that WHITE people think themselves superior? Of all the nations on earth, we are probably the least attractive - so why??


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 43 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (16:52) * 3 lines 
 
i really don't know, ree-head! and if you study color in a scientific manner,
white is all the colors at the same time and black is a lack of color or void of color. so i find it interesting and laugh because people are so ignorant.



 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 44 of 49: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (17:37) * 1 lines 
 
I always heard that black-and-white thing the other way around!


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 45 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (22:15) * 3 lines 
 
really??? i remember this thing from my 9th grade art class-and who says you'll
never use the stuff they teach you *haha* i'll have to do some checking--hey,
ray! you're the science guy, what do you know about this matter?


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 46 of 49: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (22:21) * 5 lines 
 

for mixing lights, all of the primary colors shined in one spot
make white. of course mixing all of the primary colors of paint
just gets you gray purple goo.



 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 47 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (22:40) * 5 lines 
 
right-it would only happen with light as passed through a prysm. has something to
do with absorbtion and reflection. so a red flower is red because that's the color
that's being reflected back at you. the other colors are absorbed. oh, probably
making an idiot of myself (what else is new) but if memory serves, this is the
way it was spelled out in Biology 101. (no i didn't fail-got a B)


 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 48 of 49: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Thu, Oct  8, 1998 (17:33) * 5 lines 
 


no, that's about right, wolfie!




 Topic 33 of 55 [art]: Black Art
 Response 49 of 49: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Oct  9, 1998 (09:08) * 1 lines 
 
really? do i get an A for retention???? where's that professor's number........

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