Topic 13 of 39: Dodge Viper / Lamborghini Diablo connection
Sun, Oct 26, 1997 (10:02) |
El Sam Blob (Afor)
It is not widely known, but the Dodge Viper and the Lamborghini Diablo have more in common than sinister names. The Viper was designed by Chrysler with input from Lamborghini (owned by Chrysler at the time) in the design of the aluminium V-10 block; a good idea, considering the decades of experience Lamborghini has with large, multicylinder aluminium blocks. Meanwhile, the Diablo profited from Chrysler's experience with ergonomics, electronics, quality control (don't laugh now, remember this was during
he Iacocca era, when Chrysler rediscovered quality) and emissions control devices, which made it more comfortable and reliable than the Countach.
What are your opinions on these two cars? And do you think Chrysler should have sold Lamborghini?
23 responses total.
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Response 1 of 23: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (08:49) * 3 lines
What's the sticker price on these respective two cars, even though
it isn't in my budget till I win the lottery.
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Response 2 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (10:05) * 5 lines
A Dodge Viper lists for about US$75,000
That's the cheap one!
The Lamborghini Diablo, the last time I read, was going for almost US$300,000! That might be beyond your budget even if you do win the lottery!
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Response 3 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (10:06) * 1 lines
However, you can get a Vector M-12 for less than that, with the same engine (that is, if Vector hasn't folded yet!)
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Response 4 of 23: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (16:43) * 1 lines
Try http://www.popularmechanics.com or get the new issue. A quickie comparo of the new Porsche, 'Vette, and Viper. Guess who's on top?
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Response 5 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (19:20) * 3 lines
Initial guess is Porsche, but I'll look at the site afterward...
And to think I wanted to delete this topic!
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Response 6 of 23: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (19:12) * 1 lines
I saw a real live Viper cruising down the Phoenix Highway (HWY 17) last weekend. Not much to it!
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Response 7 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (22:51) * 3 lines
To quote the Chrysler Corp. ad (which was referring to the Prowler): "That's kind of the point!"
Big engine pulling not much body. Goes fast, turns hard. It's everything the Corvette used to be before it became civilized. The Viper is to the Hemi 'Cuda and the Mustang Boss 302 what the Miata is to the MGB and the Triumph Spitfire. (I don't remember what the larger displacement Boss was; 454, maybe?)
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Response 8 of 23: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (19:25) * 1 lines
I find them analagous to bikinis. The less there is the more expensive it runs.
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Response 9 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (22:07) * 1 lines
For the same reason, the less there is, the sexier it is!
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Response 10 of 23: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (17:54) * 1 lines
i am not nuts about lamborghini so even if i had the money which i don't i wouldn't get one. i would, however, do a whole lot for an old lotus.
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Response 11 of 23: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (17:54) * 1 lines
i am not nuts about lamborghini so even if i had the money which i don't i wouldn't get one. i would, however, do a whole lot for an old lotus.
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Response 12 of 23: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (17:56) * 4 lines
EEEEEK!!!!!! it posted twice!!!!!!!!
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Response 13 of 23: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (18:16) * 1 lines
s'ok carmen. Just means you REALLY mean it!
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Response 14 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (21:06) * 1 lines
Depends on which Lamborghini. Diablo, no. Countach, maybe or maybe not. Espada, maybe. Miura, YES!
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Response 15 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (21:07) * 3 lines
Forgot the Uracco and the Jalpa; maybe & yes, respectively.
Forgot the Jarama, too, but that was intentional.
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Response 16 of 23: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (09:46) * 2 lines
We're back to the "if you woke up with Pamela Anderson" thing here; any Lambo would be MOST appreciated! (o;{
Sam (and others) I was going at it on the Guzzi-list with a guy who owns 2 Alfas, a Lambo 350, and an MR2. I said for mere mortals the MR & the last 300ZX were tops. Any opinions on the 300?
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Response 17 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Fri, Dec 19, 1997 (19:33) * 3 lines
Given how hot Jamaica is, if I woke up with Pamela Andreson, I'd check to see if her breasts had melted! (Just hope they hadn't used a thermosetting resin!)
300ZX Mk II, possibly the second most desirable of the latest generation of Japanese Muscle GTs (after the RX-7 Mk III). Never really liked the styling, but at least it was restrained (except for Super HICAS) and relatively elemental (compared to the Supra and 3000GT)
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Response 18 of 23: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sat, Dec 20, 1997 (15:56) * 1 lines
Yeah I like "restrained", and reliable smooth GT power. I could see owning one over an MR2 or a VT3000.
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Response 19 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 20, 1997 (18:13) * 3 lines
The original MR2 was O.K. The second generation was a bit too styled, but it was more elemental than the Supra or 3000GT. It was also the last affordable mid-engined sports car and the only one to have a second generation; the X-1/9 died of old age and the Fiero from parental ineptitude & neglect.
Apparently, GM did not have Mazda's vision; they should have introduced the Quad-4 engine in the Fiero, where the excessive engine noise would have emattered less than it did in the Calais, and the extra (peaky) power would have been more appreciated. By the time they tried it with prototypes, it was too late, the Fiero was as dead as the Corvair.
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Response 20 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 20, 1997 (18:16) * 1 lines
BTW, does anyone have an opinion on the "Chrysler TC by Maserati"? This when Chrysler had bought an interest in Maserati, before acquiring Lamborghini and quite deservedly dropping Maserati like a hot potato.
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Response 21 of 23: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Mon, Dec 22, 1997 (09:48) * 1 lines
TC belongs with the Allante IMO. Parked at motels in Vegas alongside the guys" Z3's!
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Response 22 of 23: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Dec 22, 1997 (21:00) * 1 lines
Better looking than the Allante, or the 560SL,but another glorified Reliant K. Not a sports car, but was it ever good looking!
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Response 23 of 23: I'm ridin' my car (sprin5) * Sat, May 13, 2000 (08:34) * 5 lines
I miss these classic comments (from above):
" Given how hot Jamaica is, if I woke up with Pamela Andreson, I'd
check to see if her breasts had melted! (Just hope they hadn't used a
thermosetting resin!)" - El Sam Blob
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