Topic 22 of 42: The US Gun Culture
Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (05:28) |
Alexander Schuth (aschuth)
Another US fetish. It's all over - at least on tv and in the press.
Is it true it's not the gun, but the person? What's the NRA's arguments? What do their critics say? Does anybody actually care?
30 responses total.
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Response 1 of 30: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:05) * 2 lines
lotsa people actually care.
I'm not sure even one person actually knows where to start...
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Response 2 of 30: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:21) * 2 lines
probably not...for some reason it is difficult
to instill responsibility and respect in people...
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Response 3 of 30: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:53) * 2 lines
there has to be some intrinsic desire to want those qualities...
it cannot be about imposing your beliefs on someone else but about assisting others in realizing that their is value in possessing those traits (of responsibility and respect)
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Response 4 of 30: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Apr 23, 1999 (20:40) * 3 lines
Denver asked the NRA to not hold their convention there this week but
they're going ahead with it anyway. They did concede to cut it a day
meeting instead of a 3 day gun lovers orgasm.
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Response 5 of 30: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (10:00) * 1 lines
and they took down all the Charlton Heston billboards
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Response 6 of 30: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (16:26) * 2 lines
The guy made some pretty assholeish statements in light of the events this
week.
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Response 7 of 30: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (17:07) * 2 lines
at least he believes in them...
Howard Stern just says shit to get a reaction.
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Response 8 of 30: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (08:59) * 4 lines
Did you see all the anti-gun stuff Billary rolled out yestaday? They're
ready to melt 'em all down. Background checks at gun shows and raising
the gun totin' age from 18 to 21 were the biggies.
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Response 9 of 30: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (09:10) * 5 lines
Who in the Spring has a gun?
Or knows of a neighbour with a gun?
Or any relative with a gun?
Why do they have them? What do they do with them? What kind of guns are these?
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Response 10 of 30: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (09:29) * 6 lines
not me.
not me.
an uncle that I know of.
protection I believe
target practice and hide them
handgun I believe
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Response 11 of 30: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (22:42) * 1 lines
Not me on any of the above. (we're pacifists, I guess!)
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Response 12 of 30: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (00:03) * 7 lines
not me
not me
my dad has two shotguns and a small caliber rifle,
and my mom has a small revolver
hunting, he won one in a raffle, and because
protection
target practices and hides them
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Response 13 of 30: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (02:56) * 4 lines
Protection: does the small revolver protect your mum from your dad?
And has he more fire power to get even?
(OK, that was below the belt, as he *DOES* go hunting, you say, and then mum needs protection against all the grizzlies around the lodge they live in, right? Sorry, but this topic is up here because I seem to have a serious problem understanding the intricacies in this affair.)
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Response 14 of 30: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (10:49) * 1 lines
(such as?)
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Response 15 of 30: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (11:10) * 1 lines
(like why somebody needs a gun for protection, and everybody else is unsafe because of that)
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Response 16 of 30: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (13:00) * 5 lines
everyone else is only unsafe because of particular people's
incompetence, irresponsibility, and disrepect
and it's not limited to the US...school shooting in Canada yesterday,
and a college gun incicent in England today...
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Response 17 of 30: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (13:01) * 2 lines
was just informed that my wife owns a pistol, as well...
(seems I forgot about that...)
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Response 18 of 30: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, May 1, 1999 (15:18) * 3 lines
Does she need protection in her domestic area that bad?
Shooting incidents: Yes, somewhere else, bad stuff happens, too. But more in the US, as everywhere else, you don't get even halfautomatic firarms that easy.
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Response 19 of 30: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, May 1, 1999 (15:25) * 1 lines
But since it's a liberty to let just anybody get any gun, nothing will change. I think Americans perhaps prefer something people tag as freedom over lowering the count of casualties. What DO you people think?
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Response 20 of 30: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Sat, May 1, 1999 (20:10) * 1 lines
You are probably right. Many areas (including Maryland) have passed laws restricting gun sales, lengthening permit issue times, etc., but the fundamental right to bear arms is never truly called into question. Thank you, founding fathers!
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Response 21 of 30: wer (KitchenManager) * Sat, May 1, 1999 (23:29) * 2 lines
because, as they did, we have the right and responsibility to
overthrow our government when it becomes oppressive...
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Response 22 of 30: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Mon, May 3, 1999 (12:05) * 1 lines
Yeah!! A bloody coup!!
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Response 23 of 30: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (12:03) * 27 lines
4 shot at Georgia high school
Emergency personnel load an injured student into an ambulance
Shooter in custody
May 20, 1999
Web posted at: 9:09 a.m. EDT (1309 GMT)
CONYERS, Georgia (CNN) -- At least four people were shot and wounded at a high school in suburban Atlanta Thursday, but authorities said the injuries were not life-threatening. One person, believed to be a student, is in custody.
The shots were fired about 8 a.m. at Heritage High School, near Conyers, which is about 30 miles east of Atlanta.
Authorities said shots were fired inside the building as the school day was beginning.
Bonnie Knight, a spokeswoman for Rockdale County schools, said the person who fired the shots was taken into custody almost immediately.
There was no immediate word on a motive.
Police secured the high school and students were evacuated to a nearby football field.
No additional details were immediately available CNN affiliate WSB-TV contributed to this report
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Response 24 of 30: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, May 25, 1999 (18:57) * 1 lines
There was a school shooting in South Africa this past week, as well...
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Response 25 of 30: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (19:11) * 1 lines
Many terrible things have happened since the last posting here. I am just reading this for the first time and something in here is making me physically ill...sorry....
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Response 26 of 30: terry (sprin5) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (09:52) * 1 lines
Terrible things?
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Response 27 of 30: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (10:44) * 1 lines
I did not know there were personal guns available to people in situations which I personally know about...I am more than a little concerned about that. (Probably only terrible to me and a few others)
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Response 28 of 30: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 22, 2000 (10:47) * 1 lines
..and the Columbine continuing tragedy...!
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Response 29 of 30: Maggie (sociolingo) * Wed, Jul 4, 2001 (16:05) * 7 lines
Continuing Alexander's tradition ...
Three die in Colorado shooting spree
RIFLE, Colorado (Reuters) - Police in the United States have said that a 42-year-old man killed three people and wounded four in a late-night shooting spree in the small western Colorado town of Rifle. The suspect, Mike Stagner, is a Rifle native believed to have been living in Grand Junction, olorado, 45 miles to the west. Rifle is a town of about 5,000 people 200 miles west of Denver, many of whose residents commute to jobs in Aspen and other resort communities.
Stagner was being held without bond in Garfield County Jail in Glenwood Springs. He is white and his victims Hispanic, police said, but the motive for the shootings was unclear. Rifle Police Chief Daryl Meisner said on Wednesday in a statement that the incident began when a man was reported to be waving a
pistol in the parking lot of a supermarket. When police arrived, he apparently fled across the street to a trailer park. Police said the shootings took place about 11:45 p.m. local time on Tuesday in both the parking lot and the trailer park. Two of the wounded were listed in critical condition on Wednesday, and one was in serious condition. Meisner said there were no suspects besides Stagner. "The shootings appear random. No motive for the shootings is known," he said.
Many of the estimated 100 witnesses to the shooting spree do not speak English, so more Spanish-speaking investigators were called in.
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Response 30 of 30: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jul 12, 2001 (17:25) * 1 lines
This sort of thing happens in Hawaii with appalling regularity. I guess we are so far from the mainland it does not make the news and probably no one wants to keep reading about it. It does not make it any better, but they will use machetes out here when no guns are available!
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