Topic 44 of 69: Bridget Jones's Diary - nowhere near the edge of reason (Part 3)
Wed, Feb 28, 2001 (23:40) |
Karen (KarenR)
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Response 1 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (05:20) * 1 lines
ON looking through this month's Total Film magazine, the best bit is towards the back advertising "Next Month Coming Soon.." It looks as if RZ will be on the front cover "Bridget Jones' Diary. Worth the weight. RZ counts her ciggies and knocks back the booze as the BIGGEST BRITISH COMEDY OF THE YEAR ARRIVES" (I like that bit). On sale Friday 30th March.
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Response 2 of 1325: Laura McCarthy (LauraMM) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (07:54) * 1 lines
Karen, LOVE the title!;)
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Response 3 of 1325: Allison M (Allison2) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (10:07) * 2 lines
BIGGEST BRITISH COMEDY OF THE YEAR ARRIVES"
Not that I wish to dampen enthusiasm but this is surely not a particularly overcrowded field:-)
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Response 4 of 1325: Echo (Echo) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (10:20) * 1 lines
LOL!
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Response 5 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (11:03) * 3 lines
You people have no appreciation for hyperbole.;-)
Ann, we'll look forward to the article!
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Response 6 of 1325: Echo (Echo) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (14:29) * 1 lines
Hyperb*ll*cks ;-)
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Response 7 of 1325: Meredith (mpiatt) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (18:10) * 3 lines
I probably missed this, but do we know what label the soundtrack will be on? Karen, I just love your music page. I must have this album!
Love the title of the new topic BTW. And so true...
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Response 8 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (20:17) * 4 lines
VCR alert for the West Coasters: Colin is seen and heard in a BJD clip on Entertainment Tonight, er, tonight.:-)
The one stinkin' night I miss it . . .will get more details.
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Response 9 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (20:23) * 9 lines
From Jackie (thanks!):
It shows Colin at a picnic, paper plates in hand and someone says something and he says "Daniel Cleaver". Then a woman says something about him being good enough for "our little Bridget." Colin says (and there's a closeup) "I think I can say with absolute confidence- absolutely not".
Then follows a bit with Bridget in a boat and Hugh Grant standing with his feet each in a different boat. Of course he does the splits and falls in, surfacing with a wet cigarette in his mouth. (Colin appears to be in another boat.)
**********
Consensus: gorgeous!:-)
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Response 10 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (21:00) * 7 lines
Argh!! How do I keep missing these snippets? They used to rerun ET late at night but no more. *boo hoo*
Then a woman says something about him being good enough for "our little Bridget." Colin says (and there's a closeup) "I think I can say with absolute confidence- absolutely not".
That's from the book. The Tarts & Vicars party. Una to Mark (p.171)
Consensus: gorgeous!:-)
Hoorah!!
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Response 11 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (21:02) * 1 lines
Meredith: Haven't seen anything about the label for the soundtrack and have been searching around. Was thinking it might be Polygram, as that was the parent company of WT and is still in the music biz.
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Response 12 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (21:39) * 3 lines
Have combed through my TV Guide and ET is rebroadcast here tomorrow afternoon at 2. That has to been the repeat showing. Am putting fresh tape in VCR for all the Bridget promos.
Mari, was Colin's name mentioned? Or was it just RZ and whatshisname?
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Response 13 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (21:49) * 3 lines
Yes, Colin is mentioned right after RZ and *before* Huge Gnat.:-)
HG's big line after falling into the water is "F**k me!" BJ responds, "you stupid ass." I hear it's a funny scene.
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Response 14 of 1325: Moon Dreams (Moon) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (22:24) * 1 lines
Colin on a boat. Does he wear a bathing suit? Sounds very promising. I hope you get it all on tape Karen. Are you set up to put the clip up on your BJD page?
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Response 15 of 1325: MarianneC (MarianneC) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (22:36) * 1 lines
CF & RZ are in one boat with HG rowing towards them ... then this is where it gets confusing as CF just disappears from the screen. HG tries to board RZ's boat, yelling "I'm the king of the world" then tips over into the lake.
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Response 16 of 1325: MarianneC (MarianneC) * Thu, Mar 1, 2001 (23:36) * 1 lines
Ugh, my mistake - CF doesn't disappear from Bridget's boat, he's on another boat w/ Natasha? But, it did seem as if the clips shown showcased HG's comedic talents.
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Response 17 of 1325: MarkG (MarkG) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (02:47) * 3 lines
RZ on the cover of UK's Marie Claire magazine out today, headlining an article "the new Bridget Jones on Sex and the Singleton Girl".
Cover shot looks very good.
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Response 18 of 1325: Lizza J (Lizza) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (03:24) * 3 lines
OOOHHH!! It's hotting up. Thanks for all the tantalising snippets everyone.
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Response 19 of 1325: Meredith (mpiatt) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (05:37) * 2 lines
Friend of mine (who I "forced" into watching P & P now at least semi-hooked) emailed me: "Watching ET tonight -- they had a little clip of BJD and CF is going to be wonderful."
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Response 20 of 1325: bethan (lizbeth54) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (07:13) * 1 lines
RZ will feature in this week's Sunday Times (an interview about BJD).
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Response 21 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (08:07) * 7 lines
Oooooh, cannot wait for repeat showing. Thanks for clarifying, Marianne. I thought it odd that Bridget and Mark were in the same boat.
Sorry, Moon, I don't have the ability to snappy from video. Maybe I'll ask around.
How about inside the magazine, Mark? Anything good?
Thanks for the heads up, Bethan.
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Response 22 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (08:29) * 13 lines
*doing the dance of joy*
For once, I was in the right place at the right time having tuned into ET last night (now I know why I endure night after night of crap stories such as 'Dani the Download Queen'). It was v.v. nice to hear CF's name mentioned. Hurrah!
My impressions of CF's MD based on this micro-clip:
- Tall. Big shoulders.
- No fluffy hair in this scene.
- Mr. Darcy lives! Same character, different costume (hope this impression is proved wrong by rest of film).
Agree with Marianne, Hugh Gnat (keep 'em comin', Mari) was funny and was very un-foppish.
Am glad the Tarts and Vicars party made the final cut. It's one of my favorites.
*counting the days until April 13th*
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Response 23 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (09:23) * 1 lines
Eileen, thanks for the above but why do you hope your impression of Mr. Darcy is proved wrong by the rest of the film, we want Mr. Darcy, don't we?
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Response 24 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (10:50) * 4 lines
(Ann) we want Mr. Darcy, don't we?
We do? I want Mark Darcy, not simply a Mr. Darcy reprise (though one could argue there's enough similarity already). If all he does is bring Mr. Darcy back in 21st century costume, I'll be very disappointed indeed. He has more range than that!
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Response 25 of 1325: bethan (lizbeth54) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (10:57) * 9 lines
How about inside the magazine, Mark? Anything good?
I'm sure Mark won't mind if I answer on his behalf! Well spotted Mark! I've already had a quick browse at the newsagents (I can see why they encase magazines in cellophane so you actually have to buy them!)
Skimmed the interview. RZ talks about filming sexy scenes with HG, and HG improvising lines. Is asked what she thinks of Englishmen. Replies that they are "funny and charming". Journalist writes that this is no surprise as the only other Englishman RZ got to know very well was CF, "superbly cast as the aloof Mark Darcy". Also says that that the movie has a terrific cast and "contrary to expectations, it is very, very funny".
Cast includes Neil Pearson (Young Paul's dad in "Fever Pitch")...can't think who he would play.
There's a competition to win tickets to the premiere April 10th.
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Response 26 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (12:33) * 1 lines
Thanks for the above Bethan. One question, was the journalist who wrote this interview a woman, only if it is its the first comment on CF's MD by a woman, I think. I just wish she had said "superbly cast as the aloof and SMOULDERING"!!
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Response 27 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (14:14) * 1 lines
Heard the teaser for tonight's Access H'wood noting a story on 'Renee Zellweger's controversial role'. Must be referring to BJ and the whole non-Brit thing. Tune in! 8-D
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Response 28 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (14:23) * 13 lines
Ooooweeeee!! Have seen the ET clip and rewound, paused, slo-mo'd numerous times.
That first picnic scene, sort of reminiscent of another *picnic* scene (wonder if Una made tabbouleh??), yes, he is Mr Darcy. Hands down, exactly Mr Darcyspeak
Celia Imre (Una) is saying to Bridget (who you can see from back is in bunny outfit) 'What a shame, Bridget, you couldn't bring your boyfriend. Bridget, what's his name? David, Darren...' Then MD says his thing.
The blue-white checked shirt is OK, but definitely liked his rowing outfit. Dark crew-neck sweater and shirt. Yummmmmmmm!!
BTW, this pic is from the boat scene:
and you hear RZ speak twice. "Don't you dare" (a few times, while the huge gnat is crossing over into her boat) and then after he falls in she is laughing and calling him a stupid ass. Her accent is v. la-di-dah.
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Response 29 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (14:27) * 3 lines
This is the picture that accompanied Baz's article last Friday, thanks to Aishling:
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Response 30 of 1325: Echo (Echo) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (17:22) * 3 lines
Ooooweeeee!! Have seen the ET clip and rewound, paused, slo-mo'd numerous times.
Snappies! Snappies! WE-WANT-SNAPPIES!!!
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Response 31 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (17:48) * 3 lines
(Eileen) If all he does is bring Mr. Darcy back in 21st century costume, I'll be very disappointed indeed.
But don't you think that's what HF had in mind?
If not, they could have had any ole Brit bloke play MD.
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Response 32 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (18:01) * 1 lines
Karen and everyone thanks for the info. on the BJDclip, you are so lucky to have seen it. Karen did you like Colin's portrayal of MD and are we all going to like it. Does he look good and does he smoulder. Finally do you think he will be eclipsed by Hughie who has a more comical role, I know you will be impartial!!
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Response 33 of 1325: Meredith (mpiatt) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (18:52) * 1 lines
Does ET ever put their clips on their site? I am absolutely desperate to see it ;-)
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Response 34 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (18:59) * 9 lines
The Access Hollywood segment was much longer and was definitely bits and pieces from the film trailer that will be shown in the theatres (the voiceover with story plot, title, etc.). Showed nearly everybody!
Colin is shown maybe 5-6 times (once in checked shirt, others at literary party wearing lovely suit from RV premiere). There's one shot where Bridge walks away from him and there's this gaze after her. Not THE LOOK, but nice. No dialogue.
We get to see all the others, from Geoffrey asking her about dates to Jude and Shazz, even Tom doing the karoake (sp?) with her. A few others were shown who are probably Magda and Jeremy and ???? Also full shot of Bridget in Playboy bunny outfit.
Unfortunately it builds up to the man she's interested in and then it's nonstop Hugh. :-(
Very very cute. Can't wait to see the entire trailer.
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Response 35 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (19:06) * 1 lines
And, Ann, Colin's manner at the T&V party clip was very Meryton Assembly. It sort of reminded me of "I'd sooner call her mother a wit." But from what I remember of the book, MD was very sympathetic to BJ at the party, telling Una to get Bridget something else to wear and siding with her against Natasha.
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Response 36 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (19:15) * 11 lines
Oooh, I just saw it on Access Hollywood. CF as MD is lovely! That sideways glance you mentioned, Karen--vintage P&P, as at Netherfield ball and Darcy first realizes Lizzie is in the room! Then later when he's talking with her (at the party for his parents?), he looks so serious and concerned I half expected him to ask "what has been done to recover her?";-) Yum!
Hughie's parts are funny. As they're driving away on their mini-break, he guns the car's motor and does a growl, growl type thing with his mouth, in time to the motor gunning. Hey, we knew HG was not going to take a thankless second-banana role so I'm not surprised he has the juicy bits and that they're emphasizing the comedy. Hard to get a feel for how Mark will turn out based on what we've seen.
It really looks like a lot of fun. There's a part where she's talking about gaining inner poise while turning on the blender and of course the top isn't on right and everything splatters all over the place. Then she and Shazz side by side on the exercise bikes.
They showed quite a bit of footage, as Karen said. Agree that this has to be from the full trailer. Bet they show it with The Mexican this weekend (Julia Roberts, Brad Pitt). Great exposure.
Renee sounds great to me (but am not good judge of accent, obviously). She looks very loose, animated, expressive--seems like she really had fun with it.
LOL at the saucy bunny wave she does arriving at Tarts & Vicars!!
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Response 37 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (20:28) * 17 lines
Have been reviewing Tape One of P&P and is not 'I'd sooner call her mother a wit."
But that glance is the same as at the Meryton Assembly when Lizzie overhears his snub and walks past him. It's that look.
Then later when he's talking with her (at the party for his parents?)
Could be. All the little lights.
she's talking about gaining inner poise while turning on the blender and of
course the top isn't on right and everything splatters all over the place.
But right before that, she's pedaling up a storm on the exercise bicycle, gets off and promptly falls down.
the saucy bunny wave she does arriving at Tarts & Vicars!!
Did you catch the Rolls convertible behind her? MD's car, perhaps? Except there is somebody behind the wheel. Maybe his driver.
The Access Hollywood announcer described BJD as about a "portly" girl. Omigod!
Did HG look sleazy to you? In the boat scene, he might even be drunk. And then there's his shirt again. Did all but one button come off?
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Response 38 of 1325: Lucie (alyeska) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (20:31) * 2 lines
The shots of Colin on AH were great. Two of just him to begin and then the one with the look out of the side of his eyes reminiscent of the P&P "dangerous Darcy shot."
He's really looking good.
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Response 39 of 1325: Lucie (alyeska) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (20:33) * 1 lines
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Response 40 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (21:56) * 13 lines
Did you catch the Rolls convertible behind her? MD's car, perhaps? Except there is somebody behind the wheel. Maybe his driver.
Possibly. Can't be Sleazer Cleaver, can it, just dropping her off and refusing to accompany her into the T&V party at the last moment? Of course in the book it's not that way . . .
Did HG look sleazy to you?
More than usual?;-) Not really. I think the audience needs to believe that she could fall for this guy; I'm sure the sleaziness increases as the film progresses.;-) Next to Mark Darcy, though, he looks like a bum.
The first scene we see MD in (outdoor shot in checked shirt)--is that part of the picnic/boat ride scene? Though you said he wears in sweater in that . . .
Am no longer worried about his hair being too poofy. Looks good to me, v.v. natural.
Thanks to Eileen for the heads up on this, BTW!:-)
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Response 41 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (23:03) * 3 lines
Checked shirt is the BBQ (formerly Tarts & Vicars Party) at the Alconburys.
Yes, I thank Eileen and my VCR thanks Eileen. :-)
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Response 42 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 2, 2001 (23:27) * 3 lines
ATTN: Check out the Observer on Saturday. Found this hint:
Free in tomorrow's Observer...Unique monthly sport magazine Steve McManaman, Kelvin MacKenzie, Magic Johnson and much more. Plus Peter Preston on Rupert Murdoch at 70, Amanda de Cadenet's fresh start, Alexander McQueen tells all, Gaby Wood on the new Bridget Jones film
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Response 43 of 1325: bethan (lizbeth54) * Sat, Mar 3, 2001 (02:33) * 12 lines
Thanks for all the info on BJD. Things are really hotting up. They're going to give this the full promotion. Sounds very, very promising!
Hughie's parts are funny. As they're driving away on their mini-break, he guns the car's motor and does a growl, growl type thing with his mouth, in time to the motor gunning. Hey, we knew HG was not going to take a thankless second-banana role so I'm not surprised he has the juicy bits and that they're emphasizing the comedy.
Oh very true. He wouldn't take this role as a favour...there'll be a lot in it for him. MD is more of the straight man...doesn't fool around. But it is a *romantic* comedy...hope the trailer stresses the *real* romance as well as the
comedy. Sounds not.
Unfortunately it builds up to the man she's interested in and then it's nonstop Hugh. :
Boo!
One thing sticks in my mind is a comment that Sharon Maguire made about the film being about loneliness, and also Baz's comment about the scene where MD tells Bridget he likes her just the way she is. Good "funny" films need an underlying seriousness. Hughie may provide the tomfoolery, but I think there'll be a lot more to this film. (cf the excellent "Frasier"...very funny, but often poignant, very good on relationships)
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Response 44 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Sat, Mar 3, 2001 (07:51) * 1 lines
We shouldn't worry too much, as trailers can oftentimes misrepresent the actual movie. All they're intended to do is attract people. With BJD, they're using Hugh. Showing him to be Bridget's object of desire. Her perfect guy...and then "but is he?" is the tone.
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Response 45 of 1325: Echo (Echo) * Sat, Mar 3, 2001 (08:27) * 6 lines
the karoake (sp?)
Well, don't look at me... ;-)
*****
Snappies! SNAPPIES!!!!
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Response 46 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Sat, Mar 3, 2001 (13:14) * 7 lines
In the boat MD is wearing a navy blue crew-neck (polo neck?) sweater.
A "wooly-pully".
Picnic scene he's wearing subtle-checked (gray?)long sleeve sport shirt.Sounds just like Mr. Darcy in this one. V. funny scene with HG in the boat.
Only two scenes with MD in the ET segment.
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Response 47 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Sat, Mar 3, 2001 (15:06) * 1 lines
Hee Hee, I just watched an advert for Max Factor Makeup and guess what at the end it said as worn in the forthcoming BJD film!!
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Response 48 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Sat, Mar 3, 2001 (20:16) * 21 lines
Link to Sunday Times article on BJ (RZ really):
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/03/04/stistlstl02004.html
There is a memorable scene in the movie where Bridget is about to have sex with her boss, Daniel Cleaver (played by Hugh Grant), and he is trying to get past her giant bloomers. "Modesty went right out the window," says Zellweger. "I mean, at one point the camera is right up my skirt and the whole crew is looking at my big pants."
"He improvises all the time," she adds of her co-star. "In that scene, he was adding lines and making me laugh. I felt so big in that dress, and the poor man had to carry me across the room about 20 times. I'm sure he's still seeing a chiropractor to this day."
Most surprising of all is that her accent turns out to be flawless. "I just wanted to get it right," she says. "The book meant such a lot to so many women that I didn't want to be the one to bodge it up."
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Only one mention of Colin:
Zellweger is now officially a singleton, and says she finds British men funny and charming. Mind you, that is probably because, apart from Grant, the only other one she really got to know was Colin Firth, who plays Mark Darcy.
Her enthusiasm for all things British extends beyond men. As we finish talking, Geri Halliwell walks into the lobby of the hotel and, in the way famous people do when they have never met before, they kiss as if they were twins separated at birth. It turns out Halliwell has written a song for the film's soundtrack.
"Oh my God," Zellweger screams, after the former Spice Girl has made her way to another table. "I've just met Ginger Spice. Bloody hell."
But apparently, the best thing about London was Marks & Spencer. "I got so big, and I bought this great pair of trousers in there. And their chicken sandwiches!" she exclaims breathlessly.
Renée Zellweger is Bridget Jones after all. The film is going to be v.g.
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Response 49 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Sat, Mar 3, 2001 (20:19) * 8 lines
From the "I knew it" department:
The movie was directed by first-timer Sharon Maguire, who says her leading lady seemed completely devoid of Hollywood ego. "Renée was keen on showing us her cellulite and flab," she says. "She developed a flat-footed walk, her thighs grew so big."
In the end, the waif got up to a curvy size 12 (but she had to resort to falsies for the part, as the "girls" refused to play ball). "I didn't look at my naked body in the shower, that's for sure."
~~~~~~~
Even with the way Playboy bunny costumes are constructed, knew it couldn't be real! ;-D
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Response 50 of 1325: sarah bennett (sarah19) * Sat, Mar 3, 2001 (23:51) * 1 lines
Just recieved my Entertainment Weekly today and there's a small picture of RZ in bunny ears. The article is about the varios production studios. It says BJD will be Miramax's high hope for this year. We could've told them that.
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Response 51 of 1325: bethan (lizbeth54) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (03:13) * 4 lines
The Sunday Times article is an edited down version of the Marie Claire article...exactly the same same text, only shorter. One example.....MC had "CF, superbly cast as the aloof Mark Darcy", the Sunday Times has "CF, who plays MD".
Signs of editorial bias?! :-)
Will try to check out The obsever.
The new HF/BJ "book" is more household hints/how to live your life sort of stuff. Extracts not riveting.
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Response 52 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (05:08) * 2 lines
Very large interview in The Observer, "A Bridget just far enough". by Gaby Wood. Not much about Colin but I like this bit "And in a twist of self-referential genius, Colin Firth plays Darcy, as an updated version of what we have come to see as himself - a Jane Austen hero, scripted once again by Andrew Davies" She also liked RZ's accent and the film.
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Response 53 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (05:10) * 1 lines
Bethan, I noticed that omission in the Sunday Times, typical. One thing that surprises me in all these articles/interviews is that people seem to be surprised but pleased that Colin has been cast as the modern-day Darcy, to us it seemed the only possible casting.
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Response 54 of 1325: TracyT (Tracy) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (06:45) * 5 lines
Ooh! Have just been rereading the MSN.co.uk BJD NY premier competition gumph.
"every single person who enters the competition will be entered into a draw to win a pair of tickets to the UK premiere, including accommodation in a top London hotel.
Now, if only I had some imagination ;-)
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Response 55 of 1325: bethan (lizbeth54) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (07:05) * 11 lines
Ann, thought the Observer article was okay, but it's also typically Observer, rather "let's put it down, it we can". Too long (for me) to type, but the basic gist is "does the movie live up to the hype". Recounts all the negative rumours, and so-called set backs, and states how every new Brit film is met with a chorus of disapproval. Says that BJD was tested in, well, Reading and "now we can exclusively reveal that BJD is not a total embarrassment (British undertatement at its worst!!!!)
Positives...Editor of "Empire" really liked it..."It's just really funny...I was surprised the guys I saw it with liked it so much". "Sight and Sound" ed also "was impressed...it was much more interesting than I thought it was going to be".
RZ has a very posh Sloane-y accent and "impeccable comic timing".
"It is a tribute to Sharon Maguire that the set of three films (4W , NH) seem seamless...you would never know that the film was by a first-time director".
"Hardcore fans (of BJD) may not be so keen because a lot has been cut from the book"
Richard Curtis hopes that the good stuff from the book is still there and they've fulfilled the brief of "what made BJD a phenomenon".
There's a scene with Mark Darcy's family, and a scene in which BJ tells MD that he goes out of his way to make her feel a complete idiot.
Enough for now. Must dash! Good that "Empire" likes it...needs positive endorsement from film mags and lads' mags to do well!
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Response 56 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (09:09) * 5 lines
I take back what I said...the Brit press doesn't seem to be carving- up the accent.Thanks everybody for film reviews.
(Karen)Even with the way Playboy bunny costumes are constructed, knew it couldn't be real! ;-D
LOL. Don't try to sneak by 'ole eagle-eye- Karen' with your falsies;-)
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Response 57 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (09:12) * 1 lines
*hee hee* That buxom ones does not get with a mere 15 pound weight gain.
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Response 58 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (09:29) * 50 lines
The Observer article is online (no pics):
A Bridget just far enough
In our exclusive sneak preview of Bridget Jones - the movie, that is - we find the nation's favourite neurotic still wallowing in good old British self-loathing. All the more impressive for being played by Texan Renee Zellweger...
Gaby Wood
It is a truth universally acknowledged that nothing is more likely to strike fear and xenophobia into the heart of an English person than a national treasure being appropriated by an American. This can usually be avoided by ensuring that what we choose to call a national treasure is a figure so self-deprecating that Americans couldn't possibly want her. Sometimes, however, the plan goes astray. Enter Bridget Jones, the international bestseller.
It is a truth universally avoided that nowhere is our curious mix of national pride and national shame more in evidence than in our film industry. We want to take Hollywood by storm, but we don't want Hollywood to take our jobs. We want to win all the Oscars, but every new British film is met with a domestic chorus of disapproval. Could all these fraught elements of the British psyche ever come together in a single project? Enter Bridget Jones, the movie, due out next month.
The filmmakers were never in the position of simply making an adaptation of a mere book. From the very beginning, they were adapting a phenomenon. Screenwriter Richard Curtis says this actually made it easier: 'At least in Bridget Jones you kind of know what the big subject matter is. So it was convenient being able to say, "Well, have we fulfilled the brief of what made it a phenomenon?"'
It also means, however, that fans were oversensitive from the start. Ever since 1998, when Working Title, the production company responsible for Four Weddings and Notting Hill, began their search for the Bridget of the silver screen, the media have been set to pounce. And when, after a full two years, they lighted not on Kate Winslet or Helena Bonham Carter or even the Australian Cate Blanchett or the flatteringly glamorous Cameron Diaz, but on... Renee Zellweger, the British newspapers had a field day.
Zellweger is a Texan blonde, not a glamourpuss but a soft-centred, round-faced actress, best known at that time for her role as Tom Cruise's love interest in Jerry Maguire and, more recently, for her deadpan performances in the high-profile Hollywood comedies Me, Myself and Irene and Nurse Betty, for which she won a Golden Globe. Zellweger was a high school cheerleader who is said to have worked in a topless bar without taking her top off, and whose first acting job was an ad for Texan beef.
She is, it would seem, as wholesome and un-Bridget-like as they come. In the words of a former school friend, 'You couldn't find anyone more American than Renee'.
As it happens, Zellweger's mother is Norwegian and her father is Swiss. Nevertheless, as if criticism of the casting wasn't bad enough, rumours began to circulate early on about the quality of the film itself.
The script was co-written by Helen Fielding (of original novel fame), Richard Curtis (of Four Weddings and Notting Hill fame) and Andrew Davies (of BBC costume drama fame, and Pride and Prejudice in particular). The film is directed by Sharon Maguire, of no fame at all. It is Maguire's debut feature; her ostensible qualification for the job is that - apart from directing TV documentaries - she, like Curtis, is a friend of Fielding's, and is acknowledged at the front of the novel. In fact, Shazza, a character in the novel itself, is a fictionalised version of Maguire. So, to all intents and purposes, she found herself turning her life and her friends into a movie, and casting Smack The Pony 's Sally Phillips as, broadly, herself.
Inevitably the rumour mill began to turn: Zellweger was so bad Hugh Grant, her co-star, was threatening to drop out. Sets were being struck too early and had to be rebuilt. Scenes were re-written, re-cut, re-shot. Everything was way behind schedule.
Whether or not any of this was true makes hardly any difference. Because it's just a symptom of what is always hoped: it is a matter of honour in England to prepare for the bitterest shame. If 'The Making of Bridget Jones's Diary' is ever filmed, it ought to be called Pride and Prejudice . The fact is that most films are subject to such complications. The rumours may have persisted, paradoxically, because the film is such a closely guarded secret. The PR firm in question has a stranglehold on it, and is letting few people see even an early or a shortened version. Sharon Maguire can be reached but not interviewed: she has been placed under a gagging order. The soundtrack, which features songs re-recorded by Geri Halliwell and Robbie Williams, is still being worked on.
But a few intrepid adventurers, including The Observer, have succeeded in sneaking a preview. A leaked memo shows that the film has tested well in... Reading. And now we can exclusively reveal that Bridget Jones's Diary is not a total embarrassment!
Zellweger has mastered the nasal sing-song of a self-defeating Sloane. Some may not have imagined Bridget to be quite this posh, and those who found Gwyneth Paltrow's accent in Emma, Sliding Doors or Shakespeare in Love jarring may think this one (trained by the same dialogue coach) unbearable. But, particularly in the voice-over, it does enhance the story's Jane Austen overtones, and Zellweger has impeccable comic timing. Her appalling speech as publicist to the inauspiciously titled book 'Kafka's Motorbike', and her stumbling reprise in front of Mark Darcy's family, will elicit a heartfelt cringe from the most stony-faced observers. Hugh Grant, her boss and 'fuckwit' lover Daniel Cleaver, plays a version of himself in which the familiar charm turns out to be entirely phoney. And in a twist of self-referential genius, Colin Firth plays Darcy, as an updated version of what we have come to see as himself - a Jane Austen hero, scripted once again by Andrew Davies.
The film has been spoken of as part of a trilogy, with Four Weddings and Notting Hill as its predecessors. All three have been scripted at least in part by Richard Curtis, they share the same producers, they all star Hugh Grant, and all of them feature an American as their female lead. It is certainly a tribute to Sharon Maguire that the set of three appears so seamless - you would never know that this film was made by a first-time director. But, despite their obvious similarities, Bridget Jones is if anything an inversion of the others: the American actress, more of a focal point this time than Hugh Grant, has adopted an English accent; rather than being an exotic import, she is meant to be an unremitting home-grown loser; and Grant turns out to be a bastard - an effect which works precisely because we are used to thinking of him as the harmless hero.
Nick James, editor of Sight and Sound, was impressed: 'It was much more interesting than I thought it was going to be, because no other country in the world would make a film about a woman who hates herself for being womanly in this way. I think the Helen Fielding/Richard Curtis crowd have changed self-deprecation into self-hatred. It used to be that the English gent abroad would always be self-deprecating, but there is a qualitative difference between that and self-hatred.'
A turning point comes in the film when Bridget confronts Mark Darcy with the words: 'You seem to go out of your way to make me feel like a complete idiot every time I see you. And you really needn't bother. Because I already feel like an idiot most of the time anyway.' At another point she is jilted, with perfect irony, by Daniel Cleaver, when he explains his attraction to another woman: 'Lara... being American... well, it's something to do with confidence.'
In fact, one of the central problems the filmmakers must have faced was how to portray self-loathing on screen. We are familiar with the Bridget Jones drill in print, but how do you deal with having to make her concrete? Is she really fat, for example, or does she just think of herself as fat? If she is not fat (as seems clear from the body weights given with each diary entry), then how can the way she feels about her body, an intangible self-doubt, be put across?
Richard Curtis thinks that portraying a state of mind is 'the most interesting thing about adapting a book. It surprised us how much we had to portray her loneliness, and stuff like that. The book is her talking herself out of it, whereas in the film we found we had to show it at times, and that was quite interesting - it did change it, even though I hope that all the good stuff from the book is still there. I think that probably is the secret of adapting: how to stand outside a character who you've got to know from the inside.'
Renee Zellweger chose to put on weight for the part. This in itself wouldn't necessarily reflect a state of mind, but a mishap unrelated to the film turned out to prove that she had somehow morphed into her character.
While in England to rehearse her British accent before shooting started, she was subjected to a diet of omelettes, bacon, milkshakes, burgers, pizzas, Guinness, and lots of desserts. Eventually she put on a stone. Some months later, Harper's Bazaar wanted to feature Zellweger as their cover girl. They took some pictures, but when the editor saw the results she was horrified. Zellweger was pulled from the cover. The reason given was not that she was too fat, but that (in the manner of Bridget Jones) she 'looked uncomfortable' with her weight.
Emma Cochrane, editor of Empire magazine, thought Zellweger just 'looked like a normal English person'. She too was pleasantly surprised by the film. 'It's just really funny,' she says, 'This film doesn't alienate the guys like the book did. In fact, I was surprised that the guys I saw it with liked it so much. But hardcore fans might not be so keen, because a lot has been cut from the book.' Cochrane has a good feeling about the film's prospects: 'It's being released in the same slot as Four Weddings and Notting Hill - the pre-blockbuster season - so they obviously have a lot of confidence in it, and there's every reason to suppose it will do well'.
Zellweger, for her part, doesn't seem to have totally relinquished her Jones-like habits. When Hugh Grant got up on stage a few weeks ago to present her with a Golden Globe, the actress almost missed the occasion because she was in the ladies, trying to get some lipstick off her teeth.
Bridget Jones's Diary opens on 13 April
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Response 59 of 1325: Ben Broadbent (BenB) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (10:46) * 5 lines
I had just read the Observer review myself.
Sounds good.
Last night I also saw the first BJD posters in London. One's immediate reaction is that RZ is far too gorgeous to play the doubt-ridden BJ. She has an adorable face. But that's part of the point, I suppose - the fact that when one's self-confidence is down (chronically, in the case of BJ) it has little to do with one's external circumstances.
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Response 60 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (11:32) * 5 lines
(Ben) One's immediate reaction is that RZ is far too gorgeous to play the
doubt-ridden BJ. She has an adorable face.
Have you read the book? Nowhere does it say that BJ is homely or worse. Nor is she 'portly' as the American TV said. It's all about self-image and a thin, pretty girl can have a poor self-image too.
But as we said long ago, when RZ was chosen, she's perfect because she can emit that vulnerability we saw in the book. Gorgeous? No. Cute, yes. But that's fine, as a cute girl would naturally feel inferior to gorgeous types.
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Response 61 of 1325: Ben Broadbent (BenB) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (11:40) * 3 lines
I have read the book, yes. I'd read the diary in the newspaper, and I read the book a couple of days after it came out. I liked it v. much.
I suppose all I meant is that RZ is prettier than Helen Fielding. She (RZ) is a film star after all. And gorgeousness is in the eye of the beholder. This beholder thinks RZ is gorgeous!
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Response 62 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (11:58) * 1 lines
Yes, you are entitled to think RZ gorgeous. Wait until you see *most* of her stuffed into that bunny outfit. ;-D
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Response 63 of 1325: Ben Broadbent (BenB) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (12:05) * 3 lines
Is that the bit where she gets the fancy dress wrong? Can't wait.
I was surprised about the bit of the review, by the way, that claimed most men didn't like the book. That's quite untrue, in my experience. All the men I know loved it. Mostly because it was funny. But also because it rang true. Men's insecurities aren't that different to women's.
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Response 64 of 1325: Echo (Echo) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (12:22) * 1 lines
Ben, stop! Stop before you say that men and women aren't that different at all... Every psychologist, psychotherapist and any damn psycho-something else has been working his b**ls/her t*ts off to convince the humanity that we come from different planets. Deny it and you'll deprive a sizable proportion of the world population the pleasure of passing large amounts of money around purely on the basis of how they perceive those differences.
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Response 65 of 1325: Ben Broadbent (BenB) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (12:48) * 7 lines
God. Sorry.
In that case I should warn you that I am planning to write a book called
"Men are from Earth and so are women."
Radical stuff.
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Response 66 of 1325: Echo (Echo) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (13:13) * 8 lines
God. Sorry.
You're right. And you're forgiven... ;-)
"Men are from Earth and so are women."
You're still absolutely determined to destroy my illusions, aren't you!!!
;-D
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Response 67 of 1325: Heide (heide) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (15:41) * 3 lines
Ooh, I like this -There's one shot where Bridge walks away from him and there's this gaze after her.
Meryton Assembly you say? Yes, I like this very much indeed. Missed both snippets. Will try to do better next time.
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Response 68 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (17:54) * 5 lines
LOL. Ben you are right....my -son-the-psychologist read the book (as well as the sequel [before he gave them to his mother for Christmas]), loved it.
Agrees with you on men & women having similar insecurities.
Looking forward to your book ;-)
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Response 69 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Sun, Mar 4, 2001 (19:56) * 4 lines
Ahem!! Did the actual Times article have other pictures or the same shown at the website (Marie Claire cover and red PJs)?
because the film is such a closely guarded secret. The PR firm in question has a stranglehold on it, and is letting few people see even an early or a shortened version.
Makes me feel much better. Shouldn't take all those snubs personally. ;-D
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Response 70 of 1325: Echo (Echo) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (06:29) * 1 lines
UK tabloid The Daily Mirror reports today that, as the BJD film makers already try to secure actors for the sequel, Renee Z. refuses to agree.
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Response 71 of 1325: Moon Dreams (Moon) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (07:28) * 6 lines
UK tabloid The Daily Mirror reports today that, as the BJD film makers already try to secure actors for the sequel, Renee Z. refuses to agree.
Is she holding out for more money? Or is she waiting to see how many millions in makes worldwide to also set points. She was Jim C. girlfriend, she must have have learnt something in that department. I can't imagine any other reason for refusing at this time. She agreed to be BJ when other British actresses were hoping for the part, now she better show good faith.
(Karen), Shouldn't take all those snubs personally. ;-D
Keep trying, Karen! ;-)
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Response 72 of 1325: Moon Dreams (Moon) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (07:30) * 1 lines
I assume Colin WILL sign, but I don't take it for granted. :-( Why would HG be back unless they have changed the story to leave it open-ended?
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Response 73 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (07:55) * 19 lines
Here's the item from the Mirror. I'd bet all of it is made up.
BRIDGET MOANS DIARY STAR SAYS NO TO A SEQUEL
BRIDGET Jones has never been our sort of girl. She doesn't get out much, is a frump who moans about her weight and can't get a boyfriend ... so not our scene, dearie.
Nor, it seems, has the fictional character endeared herself to Renee Zellweger, the unlikely American actress who plays the whinging English rose in the film based on the best-selling diaries.
So much so that Renee, who appears opposite Hugh Grant and Colin Firth in the movie, does not want to repeat her role as chain-smoking, over-indulging and desperate Ms Jones.
Bridget Jones's Diary is out next month and the 31-year-old is already refusing to sign for the sequel. The actress hated piling on (shock, horror!) a whole stone and smoking cigarettes for her role as the neurotic single woman and has told film bosses nothing can persuade her to repeat the role.
Despite positive early feedback, Miramax boss Harvey Weinstein, who is distributing the movie, has ordered some scenes to be re-edited.
"The producers, Working Title, are trying to sign up the sequel already even before Bridget Jones comes out," said an insider.
"But Renee doesn't want to know. She hated having to stuff her face and didn't like living in London for eight months." During filming she would moan every day: " I'm so fat, I'm so fat."
Renee said: "It gets dark really soon and it's cold. It was the no-exercise part that killed me."
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Response 74 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (08:36) * 7 lines
I can't imagine any other reason for refusing at this time.
I can: there's no script!! It's like buying something sight unseen. None of the principals would re-up without having seen a script.
I'd bet all of it is made up.
So do I. Early word on the film seems to be very good, and they don't know how else to fabricate a problem.
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Response 75 of 1325: Moon Dreams (Moon) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (08:53) * 6 lines
Despite positive early feedback, Miramax boss Harvey Weinstein, who is distributing the movie, has ordered some scenes to be re-edited.
So if it's all made up, we don't have to worry about the Harvey cut, right?
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Response 76 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (10:16) * 1 lines
Right. This one is in the can. They're alrady having press screenings.
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Response 77 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (10:28) * 7 lines
(Me) If all he does is bring Mr. Darcy back in 21st century costume, I'll be very disappointed indeed.
(Evelyn) But don't you think that's what HF had in mind? If not, they could have had any ole Brit bloke play MD.
True, true; I've been arguing for years that the character of MD is nothing more than an updated FD *but* I was hoping for something more from CF than a complete reprise of his P&P2 performance. As a student of P&P2 ;-) I fully expect to see endless similarities, i.e., line delivery, looks, etc. (such as those already pointed out above). My point is, I hope CF adds something else to MD to make the role the same as FD, but different. Got it? I'm being as clear as mud ;-P
As for the AH clip (which I also have on tape and must re-watch)--thought CF's face time was excellent but was miffed that his name wasn't mentioned in the voice-over as it was on ET. Would it have killed them to say 'in which Zellweger stars with CF and HG (or even HG and CF)'? Harumph.
Movie looks v.v. excellent, though!
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Response 78 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (11:28) * 10 lines
(Eileen)My point is, I hope CF adds something else to MD to make
the role the same as FD, but different. Got it?
I'm being as clear as mud ;-P
No I understand what you mean....and I agree. We don't want character -clones.
And actually, IMO sequels are seldom as good as the first one.
Dilutes the original.
I also like to hear him speak in the ET clip of BJD.
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Response 79 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (11:35) * 1 lines
I'd say the Mirror is leading the charge for all press that weren't invited to that early screening (Empire, Sight & Sound, Observer). Mirror wants to trash the movie and has started anti-RZ backlash.
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Response 80 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (13:51) * 1 lines
I see that the Film Unlimited site has picked it up, quoting from the Mirror--and then adding its own embellishments. They write she "apparently hated the part so much . . " and "apparently hated filming in London so much . . ." Apparent to whom? To anyone making it up as they go along? Does use of word "apparently" preclude a lawsuit, in manner of "allegedly" in mob stories?;-)
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Response 81 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (14:37) * 3 lines
(Mari) Apparent to whom? To anyone making it up as they go along?
Well, if they said it in the Mirror, then it *must* be true. *phooey*
Shades of the 'HF didn't want RZ and wanted to play BJ herself' hoo-hah. Let's see how many more tabs/websites propagate this nonsense in the coming days.
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Response 82 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (14:44) * 2 lines
OK...I don't take it back...maybe some of the press is going trash Renee after all. But they do that to Gwynnie too. Remember they said she was anti-British because she said she didn't like a dessert called"Treacle".
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Response 83 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (16:06) * 13 lines
Decided to check the other tabloid and found this item:
Geri Fame-ous
HERE'S Geri Halliwell giving it some belly in the video for her new single It's Raining Men.
She goes totally Eighties for the film, donning tracksuit bottoms, biker jacket and fingerless gloves, as my exclusive snap shows.
The promo pays tribute to the era of yuppies and dodgy haircuts through clothes, clichés and a storyline inspired by the popular Eighties TV show Fame. It even features a Leroy character plus an irritating troupe of actors dancing about on top of cars, echoing the series about a New York music and drama school.
The song, released next month, is a remake of the Weather Girls' 1984 hit and features in the movie Bridget Jones' Diary, also out soon.
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Response 84 of 1325: KJArt (KJArt) * Mon, Mar 5, 2001 (18:48) * 4 lines
(Eileen)My point is, I hope CF adds something else to MD to make
the role the same as FD, but different. Got it?
It was always my impression that Mark D. had more self-confidence (except RE; whether Bridget really could like him) and a strong sardonic sense of humor, something FD hadn't managed to develop at that time. Also MD previously married and with a strong work ethic. Lots of points to differentiate the character, as no doubt ODB will.
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Response 85 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (04:50) * 0 lines
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Response 86 of 1325: Moon Dreams (Moon) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (07:26) * 1 lines
Lucky girls! Ann, I do hope you plan to attend. And with your camera as you did for SIL. :-)
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Response 87 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (08:02) * 1 lines
Go to it, Ann!
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Response 88 of 1325: aishling (aishling) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (08:09) * 1 lines
Thanks Ann. Where is the venue?
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Response 89 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (09:47) * 39 lines
Hot off the wires... (note poor insertion of old item toward end) This is possibly response to tabloid items yesterday.
Man-Hunting Bridget Jones Heads to Movies
LONDON (Reuters) - Helen Fielding's best-selling novel about a dieting, smoking, man-hunting singleton hits the silver screen next month when "Bridget Jones's Diary" aims to captivate world audiences with a very British charm.
Never mind that a Texan blonde gets to play the eponymous heroine -- the theme is British through and through.
Hugh Grant plays the baddie, Colin Firth is the love interest and Bridget smokes and drinks for England.
"No other country in the world could make a film about a woman who hates herself for being womanly in this way," said Nick James, editor of Sight and Sound film magazine.
The movie of the international best seller which began life as a tongue-in-cheek newspaper column, opens on April 13.
Behind the adaptation is the hit team who created "Four Weddings and a Funeral" and "Notting Hill." Now Working Title, the production company, hopes the neurotic diaries of a single 30-something will provide its third low-budget British film hit.
At the core of the book is Bridget Jones's die-hard attempt to get thin, smoke less, drink fewer alcoholic units and meet the man of her dreams.
Hardly a modern tale, it nevertheless captured the public's imagination and became a must-read for a generation of modern career women seeking an old-fashioned happy ending.
The Bridget Jones of Fielding's imagination opened each diary entry with a tally of how many cigarettes smoked, pounds lost or gained and drinks drunk. The quest was to get beautiful and find a man -- with plenty of navel gazing along the way.
"How is it possible to put on four pounds overnight? Could flesh have somehow solidified, becoming denser and heavier (repulsive, horrifying notion)); alcohol units: two (excellent) cigarettes: 21 (poor but will give up totally tomorrow); number of correct lottery numbers: two (better, but nevertheless useless)" is just one typical entry.
TEXAN ROSE?
Yet it is an American, rather than a hip Londoner, who grabbed the lead and Fielding admitted to fierce jealousy that her screen character would have an affair with Grant, whom she describes as "hilariously wicked, sexy charming and delicious."
Renee Zellweger, best known for playing Tom Cruise's romantic sidekick in "Jerry Maguire," is a corn-fed Texan with a moon face: a far cry from the English rose of Fielding's mind.
Zellweger's mother is Norwegian and her father is Swiss, but critics will be listening hard to see if an American of European extraction has mastered the London accent.
Her past credits include the comedies "Me Myself and Irene" and "Nurse Betty," which earned her a Golden Globe award.
Fielding won't let Zellweger steal all the limelight.
"I'm keen on the idea of turning up on set and in enormous sunglasses and a gold lame turban shrieking 'it should have been me!' and having to be led away and given a trinket," she told Sydney's Daily Telegraph.
The script was written by Fielding, Richard Curtis (Four Weddings and Notting Hill) and Andrew Davies (Pride and Prejudice).
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Response 90 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (10:07) * 3 lines
Now THIS is what I call a poster!!
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Response 91 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (10:19) * 1 lines
Could have been a better image of Colin though, thanks Karen.
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Response 92 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (10:59) * 11 lines
...and they say I'm picky! ;-D
Anyway, Teletext picked up the other item. Liked use of "it's suggested." Shame they didn't say "who suggested it"...The Mirror
Zellweger won't do Jones sequel
Renee Zellweger is not interested in making the sequel to Bridget Jones's Diary, sources at Working Title claim. It's suggested she is reluctant to have to put two stone in weight on again and disliked living in London for eight months.
A non-smoker, she also had to puff on herbal cigarettes which made her "smell like dung".
Early previews of the movie are favourable with critics impressed by her Sloaney English accent.
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Response 93 of 1325: MarkG (MarkG) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (11:48) * 5 lines
"It's suggested" by the Daily Mirror.
The "smell like dung" bit is straight out of Marie Claire.
Feeble re-tread of a cobbled story.
I reckon IF there's any truth in the Mirror's story, it could be proof of RZ backing the film. If it's a success, her worth for a sequel will shoot up. I'm sure she didn't love London and gaining weight and not exercising, etc, etc, but I guess she'd do the role again for its sheer artistic integrity - that and a (few) million dollars.
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Response 94 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (12:05) * 1 lines
According to Annova, the soundtrack for BJD goes on release on the 16th March, which seems a little strange as some of the individual singles aren't released until the beginning of April, i.e. Gabrielle and Geri Halliwell's Raining Men.
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Response 95 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (12:31) * 7 lines
Is it me or does Geri GingerSpice look like she's anorexic?
I like that pic of MD, Ann (same as the one on cupid during that Valentine's Day promo). Hair: v.v.g., jawline: v.g., fit of shirt collar: v.v.g.! Also like that he appears to be peeking at the diary.
Think this is the *official* poster? *hoping*
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Response 96 of 1325: Liz K (ekelley) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (12:52) * 1 lines
Hi all... (delurking on this board) stupid question, which I should know, but don't: when is this supposed to open up in theatres here in the US?
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Response 97 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (12:58) * 11 lines
About the sequel, there was talk about the other WT hits (4Weddings and NH), but they've never chosen to pursue the sequel route with those (yeah, like they could get Julia to do another!). All hype, making it a huge hit before it even opens.
I agree, Ann, it seems a bit early to release the soundtrack. I would think it would coincide with the release of the movie. Perhaps, they meant April 13 not March 13 as it is not listed at a couple of music sites I've checked.
The item from Ananova:
Bridget Jones soundtrack set to be a hit
The soundtrack to the forthcoming film adaptation of Helen Fielding's bestseller Bridget Jones's Diary features exclusive tracks from top artists. The film is tipped to be one of the biggest international movie hits of the year. Tracks include new material from Robbie Williams, and Geri Halliwell's cover of The Weather Girls' 1980s hit, It's Raining Men. There are also contributions from Alisha's Attic, Shelby Lynne and Gabrielle.
Bridget Jones's Diary premieres in the UK in April, while the soundtrack album is due for release on March 16 through Mercury.
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Response 98 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (13:00) * 5 lines
Liz: check the Bucket for all the dates:
http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/bjd.html
and it's April 13th
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Response 99 of 1325: Allison M (Allison2) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (13:51) * 2 lines
The poster for Bridget Jones is now on the Tube in London. (has anyone reported this before?) It is the one with RZ sitting, legs out straight, with a ciggie in the ashtray to her side. Says something like "it's Monday and BJ wakes up in bed with a hangover and her boss". Sorry if that is not correct but have not time to go back to Green Park to check:-)
Much better than tht creepy picture of CF - looks straight out of RV!!
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Response 100 of 1325: Echo (Echo) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (14:36) * 5 lines
tht creepy picture of CF - looks straight out of RV!!
LOL! I thought it looked familiar...
Btw, what are responses 85 to 88 supposed to mean exactly? I see nothing in 85 and I feel like an extra in a remake of The Emperor's New Clothes...
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Response 101 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (15:04) * 1 lines
Allison, will you please email me, I have mislaid your address (re response 85).
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Response 102 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (15:05) * 1 lines
Sorry I meant Echo.
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Response 103 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (16:30) * 5 lines
Love the poster....Thanks boss.
And sorry folks I like CF peaking around her diary,..cool.....maybe because
I liked RV :-)
See Eileen,a different perspective ...not like Mr. Darcy at all;-)
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Response 104 of 1325: Moon Dreams (Moon) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (16:47) * 1 lines
Allison, you're right about the RV pose! Still a clean looking poster and his presense for once is there. I hope they won't cut him out in the States, as tthey have done in the past and they could too unless he specifically had it written into his contract that he must also be included in the poster whenever HG is. That would have been a smart move.
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Response 105 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (18:19) * 4 lines
(Moon) I hope they won't cut him out in the States, as tthey have done in the past
I don't think he'll be cut out, as the advertising needs to emphasize there are TWO guys (Mr So So Right and Mr Fuckwit) interested in one girl. That's the campaign they should be waging. Mark Darcy's part is the mysterious stranger type as you can see in the bits of the trailer shown on Access Hollywood. The emphasis on Hugh but with Colin lurking about on the sidelines.
Meant to bring this up before. In the articles, I liked how people had singled out scenes with Colin as being the most important (when he says he likes her as-is, or Bridget telling him that he makes her feel ridiculous). These are memorable scenes (serious concepts) that critics would focus on, rather than a drunken Hugh falling overboard whilst saying he's king of the world.
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Response 106 of 1325: Moon Dreams (Moon) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (19:20) * 2 lines
Mark Darcy's part is the mysterious stranger type as you can see in the bits of the trailer shown on Access Hollywood.
OK, rub it in. You know I have not seen this. :-( Lucky you who can rewind to her heart's content.
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Response 107 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Tue, Mar 6, 2001 (20:24) * 3 lines
Thanks for the poster, Karen. I think the "peekaboo" pose is very appropriate, but notice they used the CF and RZ pics from the website, yet substituted a more attractive photo for HG. No doubt he has approval on the publicity materials (they all may) and vetoed the one on the website, a more appropriate (but less attractive) peering-sideways look. I just wonder if CF has people looking out for his interests like that. I do love that he's on there, though!
a corn-fed Texan LOL! They make her sound like a heifer.
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Response 108 of 1325: anne hale (ommin) * Wed, Mar 7, 2001 (03:29) * 1 lines
Don't fret gals he is what he is. I guess he'll never change but thats why I like him.
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Response 109 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Wed, Mar 7, 2001 (09:34) * 9 lines
(Evelyn) And sorry folks I like CF peaking around her diary,..cool.....maybe because I liked RV :-)
See Eileen,a different perspective ...not like Mr. Darcy at all;-)
Certainly not, the way you see it. ;-) I don't see 'gay' in this pose at all (no wrists flicking) and I also liked RV--loved seeing CF flouncing around, was ROTF. IMO showing CF in the Mr. D. aloof/smouldering/glowering mode on the poster would make him/his character look less appealing than this playful look.
(Karen) The emphasis on Hugh but with Colin lurking about on the sidelines.
Which is in keeping with the book, right?
(Karen) I liked how people had singled out scenes with Colin as being the most important (when he says he likes her as-is, or Bridget telling him that he makes her feel ridiculous). These are memorable scenes (serious concepts) that critics would focus on, rather than a drunken Hugh falling overboard whilst saying he's king of the world.
Good point!
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Response 110 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Wed, Mar 7, 2001 (12:10) * 1 lines
Ooh, have had brilliant brainstorm for poster. Picture this: Small shot of BJ sitting on bed with diary open, superimposed on larger close-up of pensive Mark Darcy (head only). Perfect! Yet something about it seems familiar...
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Response 111 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Wed, Mar 7, 2001 (12:27) * 1 lines
Suggest Bridget hold one stockinged leg up in air for nice central focus. Or else could have enigmatic Mark Darcy in shadowy doorway with Bridget sitting in lacy frou frou underwear or scary pants, whichever. ;-D
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Response 112 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Wed, Mar 7, 2001 (22:44) * 20 lines
This isn't the same writer, but does this border on plagiarism? From reel.com:
Zellweger Stars as Jones
By Joan Tarshis
Bridget Jones's Diary, Helen Fielding's hilarious, best-selling novel about a weight-watching, chain-smoking, man-chasing, gin-and-tonic drinking, pint-guzzling bachelorette makes its way to the big screen next month. Indeed.
Renee Zellweger, best known for playing Tom Cruise's romantic interest in Jerry Maguire, stars as Jones. Mind you — despite that a blond from Texas is playing the eponymous heroine — the premise is terribly British. Hugh Grant plays the bad guy and Colin Firth is the love interest, while Bridget smokes and drinks and drinks and smokes in Jolly Ol' England.
At the film's center are Bridget's desperate attempts to lose weight, smoke less, drink less, and meet her Prince Charming. The novel became a must for a generation of modern career women seeking an old-fashioned happy ending.
In her diary, Bridget begins each entry with a total of how many pounds lost or gained, cigarettes smoked, and drinks drunk. The mission is to become beautiful and find a man. A typical entry reads, ``How is it possible to put on four pounds overnight? Could flesh have somehow solidified, becoming denser and heavier (repulsive, horrifying notion); alcohol units: two (excellent) cigarettes: 21 (poor but will give up totally tomorrow); number of correct lottery numbers: two (better, but nevertheless useless).''
What has surprised our friends across the pond is that an American actress, rather than a hip Brit, got the lead. Zellweger's past credits include the comedies Me, Myself & Irene and Nurse Betty, which earned her a Golden Globe award.
Fielding has admitted to being fiercely jealous that her character gets to have an affair with Grant, whom she describes as "hilariously wicked, sexy, charming, and delicious." But, the author admits she won't let Zellweger steal all of Grant's attentions. "I'm keen on the idea of turning up on set in enormous sunglasses and a gold lamé turban shrieking 'it should have been me!' and having to be led away and given a trinket," she told Sydney's Daily Telegraph.
The script was inked by Fielding, Richard Curtis (Four Weddings and a Funeral, Notting Hill), and Andrew Davies (Pride and Prejudice), and is being helmed by first-timer Sharon Maguire. Bridget Jones reunites co-writer Curtis with producers Tim Bevans and Eric Fellner, the successful team who brought us Four Weddings and Notting Hill. Now the trio hopes that the ramblings of a neurotic, single, 30-ish woman will give them hit number three.
The movie, which was born as a tongue-in-cheek newspaper column, opens April 13.
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Response 113 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (08:21) * 2 lines
(Karen) but does this border on plagiarism?
Is there such a concept any more? It seems plagiarism went out the window when 'cut and paste' was invented. :-/
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Response 114 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (09:53) * 7 lines
ATTN!!
Full trailer is now available at the MSN site:
http://entertainment.msn.com/bridget/default.asp
Lots of Colin! You see when she first sees him at the party (he's wearing a dark turtleneck. He's specifically shown as Mr Wrong (in her mind) after the Mr Right intro. Then there's a darling bit, where he's at the door to somebody's apartment and calls Cleaver out. "OK, Cleaver, outside. [Cleaver: What?"] MD: Should I bring my dueling pistols or sword?"
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Response 115 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (10:06) * 3 lines
Ooooh, and he throws a punch. Yippee!
This is a 2:26 min trailer, as would be in the theatres.
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Response 116 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (10:06) * 1 lines
And he says the lines about liking her just the way she is.
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Response 117 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (10:13) * 4 lines
Oh Karen...the trailer is darling. I esp like the part that MD says:
"To our Bridget, we love her...just as she is".Mr. Darcy's voice, for sure.
Bridge's accent sounds good to me.She's got the Brit vowels down pat.
Thank you Working Title....
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Response 118 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (10:47) * 3 lines
Oh, bollocks, I can't view it! Apparently we have some security thingie here at work which prevents our PCs from downloading the viewing software. Don't they know people need a break at work? Honestly, this is something out of Dickens.;-)
Tell us poor deprived souls more, please.
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Response 119 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (11:06) * 3 lines
Ooh, v.v. cute indeed (note to self: begin each day by viewing trailer). *But* I think I see/hear a few things differently--it doesn't sound like MD's voice saying 'just as she is', though he definitely says 'To Bridget, whom we love' (could be my ears *klunking self on head*). Unfortunately, I'm sure it is DC, not MD who says 'should I bring my dueling pistols or my sword?'. :-( Oh, well, I still like the trailer.
Agree with what the others say about RZ's accent but since I'm not British I'm hardly a judge. I like the what it does to her voice, though, which in JM sounded high pitched and little girlish.
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Response 120 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (11:09) * 27 lines
It's what we saw on Access Hollywood and more.
Starts out with the Still not married bit and how's your love life from everybody, with the "haven't had a sniff of a date for over 18 months" line. Then there's a shot at a party (could be literary bash), and v. possibly CF at center of shot at other end of room.
Cue music: sounds like 1960s Frank Sinatra-y thing (or Gidget theme music)
Car drives up to Snowshill and there's the Turkey Curry Buffet and Bridget being introduced to Mark (by mom). He looks v.good.
Strange little incident with a taxi. Can't tell for sure whose voice that is saying "drive on. She's fine."
Then there's that whole bit from TV we saw about starting a diary, making resolutions, not dating litany of bad guy types, holding up big pants, exercycling with Shaz, will develop inner poise (blender blowup)...
Won't fantasize about boss (enter Hugh) and making date and rolling around on floor discussing enormous pants.
Next we see Jim Broadbent as dad, asking her if she has a boyfriend, to which she replies "I have, father, and he's perfect."
Voiceover about how she's finding herself caught between a man who's too good to be true (king of the world) and a man who is so wrong.... bunny outfit.
Then we get the "I like you just the way you" are bit....
Music changes...oh, what is name of song. Every little thing she says and does...
Cast intros: RZ (she's singing "Can't Live if Living is w/o you" v. drunkenly), THEN HG (a little dialogue about practicing french kissing with girls at school, Then CF (and dueling bit) -- shot of three girls and BJ saying "major dilemma" after punch thrown.
Ends with answering phone.
Sorry if it's so choppy. Had to keep pausing and writing and starting. Argh
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Response 121 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (11:10) * 1 lines
One other thought: am surprised to see MD wearing sexy black turtleneck (*the* turtleneck!) instead of fugly diamond-patterned sweater in the turkey curry buffet scene. Guess they didn't want to overdo the nerd-dweeb thing. One can still hope for bumblebee socks, however. ;-)
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Response 122 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (11:13) * 1 lines
Gaah! You're right, Hugh gets the pistols or sword line. *off to find Q tip* :-(
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Response 123 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (11:23) * 3 lines
The song is from the Police *humming* 'every little thing she does is magic..'
Just watched again (can't wait until these things are bigger than the smallest size post-it note). No longer think MD says 'to Bridget, whom we love'. Think someone else says the line *but* the camera shows smiling MD which is more important. Glad to see they have their priorities straight. ;-)
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Response 124 of 1325: Allison M (Allison2) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (11:34) * 1 lines
Grrrrrr. I cannot view it either. Probably due to hopeless internet peformance at this time in the UK. Am v frustrated gazing at blue MSN screen with nothing happening. Will have to get up v early tomorrow when I shall not be sharing my dial-up line with half of the southeast of England:-)
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Response 125 of 1325: Ben Broadbent (BenB) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (12:03) * 1 lines
My wizzard line at work pipes it down so efficiently its like being in the cinema. Well, almost. A good two minutes. Now for the other 98.
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Response 126 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (12:20) * 5 lines
The Police! Of course, I even own that one. *off to vacuum brain*
Allison, try clicking on a lower connection type for viewing. If you have a 56K connection, try the 28K one.
Was also v. surprised that Mark is not wearing hideously ugly sweater at the party. But glad is nice dark turtleneck. He should wear those more frequently, than basic black t-shirt we keep seeing.
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Response 127 of 1325: Meredith (mpiatt) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (12:21) * 3 lines
Karen, thanks so much for posting the "full trailer" info. Rarely surf at work, but am so glad I "checked in". Brightened my day considerably! Will have to visit again at home, when, out of my "cubile" environment, I can crank up the volume.
Have checked the Island Records web site, but they have no mention of the soundtrack. Wanted to pre-order from _somebody_.
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Response 128 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (13:15) * 11 lines
(Eileen)I like the what it does to her voice, though, which in JM sounded high pitched and little girlish.
Likewise in Nurse Betty.Renee should speak with a British accent all the time. V. flattering.I tell ya' it's those vowels.American accent has ugly vowels.
Car drives up to Snowshill and there's the Turkey Curry Buffet and Bridget being introduced to Mark (by mom). He looks v.good.
Doesn't mom say something like "You remember Bridget, she used to run around the lawn without any clothes on..." Bridget looking mortified.
..bunny outfit.
Hilarious.Who hasn't appeared at a party dressed all wrong.
Allison, it takes a little while to load esp. if your lines are busy.
It would tell you if you didn't have the correct version of the video software. Good luck.
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Response 129 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (13:40) * 1 lines
For some reason, the trailer works better for me from The Bucket than from the MSN website, LOL.I get interruptions (pauses) from the official website. Have to keep hitting the "Play" button.
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Response 130 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (13:56) * 7 lines
HA! Have cracked code! Am overjoyed! Am bursting! Am drooling!
Am probably also unemployed.;-)
Love this. Superb trailer. Even if I had never heard of BJD or Colin (and oh, what an awful life that would be!;-), I'd go to see this. CF is . . . oh, my, my, my , my, my . . .When he says to her, "You see, I like you. A lot. Just the way you are." *Major meltdown.* And that shot at the end when they're raising a glass to Bridge at the dinner. . .*very* close to The Look. Mmmmm . . . .
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Response 131 of 1325: Judy (judy) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (14:06) * 3 lines
Can't get the trailer but have just seen the video
for Gabrielle's song & was surprised to see quite a
bit of CF.
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Response 132 of 1325: Eileen (EileenG) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (14:19) * 5 lines
(Evelyn) For some reason, the trailer works better for me from The Bucket than from the MSN website, LOL.I get interruptions (pauses) from the official website.
Am far from an expert on this but I think it has more to do with when you view the trailer vs. where you view it from. It was much clearer and flowed better for me this morning than just now. Sometimes it sticks on video while audio progresses so you think you're seeing everything. Must watch over and over!
(Mari) *very* close to The Look.
Absolutely. Very close without duplicating that which should never be duplicated, IMO ;-). How 'bout MD's expression when BJ's mom makes the intro? As Evelyn notes, Bridget looks mortified while Mark's expression is straight out of the Meryton assembly (and/or Netherfield Ball with Mr. Collins--take your pick).
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Response 133 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (14:41) * 4 lines
Judy where did you see the video for Gabrielle's song and did they say when it would be released in the UK. I still think it is odd that the BJD soundtrack is being released on the 16th March before the individual singles, maybe it was a misprint by Annova but I am still going to check it out on the 16th March.
I am so glad he looks and sounds so great, I am all anticipation. Thanks Karen for notifying us of the trailer and Allison I have been able to see it and I am in the South East also. Try what Karen suggested, it worked for me.
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Response 134 of 1325: Judy (judy) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (14:57) * 4 lines
Ann it was shown on The Box a music channel on
cable or satellite.It was new today & as yet there
is no mention of the release date.There are some
great shots of CF!
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Response 135 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (15:03) * 5 lines
Oooh, I get The Box. Must check if same here. Which shots, Judy? The same as we've been discussing?
That tears it! I'm definitely going to a mainstream movie complex this weekend. No esoteric Chinese films until I see that trailer up on a big screen, instead of postage size.
Ann, that date has to be wrong. At the Gabrielle website, it says the single is coming on on April 2.
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Response 136 of 1325: winter (winter) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (15:15) * 3 lines
Nice trailer, from what I've been able to make out of it (too many pauses on this computer). Must run over to my good friend Pete-- who has forked over wads of cash to be be able to play feature-length films on his spiffy new computer.
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Response 137 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (15:19) * 1 lines
Karen, someone at VV has seen the trailer at a Sony Cinema?
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Response 138 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (15:21) * 1 lines
It doesn't look as if we are going to see Colin in his Barrister's Gown, does it? Oh well, mustn't complain, I love that grey polo neck!
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Response 139 of 1325: Judy (judy) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (15:22) * 13 lines
I've just checked www.thebox.co.uk for the release
date but the record isn't listed there yet.The first
shot is head & shoulders & then it shows him in a
reindeer jumper .(I wish someone had warned me
about that -D)There's also one of him watching BJ
with DC at a do.Another when he interrupts BJ & DC
about to kiss.A few shots of the fight-crashing
through a window,in a street high kicking DC & the
punch.I'll have to watch the tape again as thats all
I can remember.
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Response 140 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (16:09) * 5 lines
Ann, the cinema chain isn't as important as which movie it precedes. I wish the person at VV had said. I do hope it isn't Chocolat (another Miramax release) as I don't care to see it again. ;-D
A reindeer jumper? High-kicking DC? This is marvelous. Wonder if he learned to do that kick or was that the padded stunt double that Mark saw? *tingling* I cannot wait for this movie.
Can't find The Box on my cable. Must've been dropped. Will tune in to MTV or similar.
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Response 141 of 1325: TracyT (Tracy) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (17:40) * 10 lines
Karen = I'm definitely going to a mainstream movie complex this weekend
My thoughts exactly ! Thanks for the tip about lowering the connection speed, managed to see most of the trailer but it was very disjointed. Need to see a clearer view, oh how I need ;-)
Love the Karaoke! A girl after my own heart. And mad 'inner poise' blender moment - d'you think we'll get the whole blue soup and marmalade episode??
Also thanks Judy for tip re the video..now must hog parents' cable!
Meredith I've also been scouring the various sites to pre-order the soundtrack ..nothing doing at CD now or Amazon or HMV ;-( When is it to be released anyone?
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Response 142 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (20:40) * 4 lines
Think I'll go watch the trailer at an internet place which has the very high-speed connections. Then the pic is bigger too and it really flows well.
(Tracy) d'you think we'll get the whole blue soup and marmalade episode??
Fingers crossed, but I do expect we'll have to see foot in pot of mashed potatoes, as that is one of HF's most used anecdotes.
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Response 143 of 1325: Mari (mari) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (20:41) * 41 lines
Meant to say thanks to everyone who filled us in on the trailer bits while I was plotzing over not being able to see it at first!:-) Good thing you thought to re-check the trailer, Karen; I figured it was just the same old, same old.
Then there's a shot at a party (could be literary bash), and v. possibly CF at center of shot at other end of room.
Yes, that's him. Looks like he's wearing a dress shirt and jacket, no tie.
Strange little incident with a taxi. Can't tell for sure whose voice that is saying "drive on. She's fine."
I think it's Tom in the back seat. Right before that, Shazz says something like, "mind your step," whereupon BJ falls down, drunk apparently.
Voiceover about how she's finding herself caught between a man who's too good to be true (king of the world) and a man who is so wrong.... bunny outfit.
Don't you love how one of the women says "I can't believe what some people find attractive," then they cut to Mark who manages, "um, er, (big gulp) yes." The look on his face--*he* is obviously finding the bunny very attractive!:-)
Ends with answering phone.
"Wanton sex goddess, here. Oh . . . dad!"
How 'bout MD's expression when BJ's mom makes the intro? As Evelyn notes, Bridget looks mortified while Mark's expression is straight out of the Meryton assembly
Her expression is pure Ehle, when the mortified Lizzie says, "Ma-ma, he willl hear you."
I love that grey polo neck!
Oh, me too! Do you think it's a different one than in the pic that went up on the website early on?
Love the Karaoke! A girl after my own heart.
So you've karried a bit of okie in your time, eh Tracy?;-) Moi aussi.:-)
d'you think we'll get the whole blue soup and marmalade episode??
Ooo, I hope so--one of my faves. I think one of the early reviews at AICN mentioned the funny dinner scene, so it seems they've kept it.
Tracy, most of the scenes you mention in the video are not in the trailer, but they sure sound like goodies! I want my MTV . . .:-)
Agree that RZ's voice takes on a v. nice timbre with the English accent--deeper than usual. But how does the accent sound to our experts?
I have to say, I'm v.v. pleased with the bits we've seen so far! Hurry April 13--so glad that so many of us will be able to see it at the same time--a too-rare treat!:-)
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Response 144 of 1325: Moon Dreams (Moon) * Thu, Mar 8, 2001 (21:14) * 5 lines
Just in and I must thank all of you for your comments and Karen for the clip. I only saw it once but I loved it and plan to see it again... ! Will have to watch MTV too. Mari, her accent sounds good. I only found fault in the way she says diary. What do the Brits say?
I loved the line about the duel, too bad Colin doesn't say it.
(Cue in the music, I am ready to dance!)
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Response 145 of 1325: MarkG (MarkG) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (02:16) * 7 lines
Many thanks for the lead to the trailer, Karen.
This Brit gives an A for the accent. I know it sounds ridiculous but when we previously got the five-second trailer with HG investigating the big pants and RZ just saying "No ... no ..." it actually did sound too posh. One word, I know, BUT the most telling Received Pronunciation vowel. However, my hopes went back up when one of the articles said "...if you found Gwyneth Paltrow's accent in Sliding Doors jarring...watch out, it's the same accent coach." GP (as I have said before) was perfect in SD, and from this evidence RZ is pretty close.
Great trailer, though it's all a bit of a giveaway about who's going to get the girl, no? (I am aware that we knew already!)
But it's looking bad for me personally. That scene where HG growls in the car is MY scene, but I suspect the best I can now hope for is a freeze-frame one day with me telling friends "that guy behind him...there, in the suit...did you see it?...no, no head, just an arm...it's me...honestly"
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Response 146 of 1325: Allison M (Allison2) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (02:34) * 1 lines
Thanks to Karen's Bucket, I have now heard the trailer and seen it until BJ says the bit about not having had a sniff of a date for 6 months and then the picture stops! So I can pronounce on the accent. v.v.good. Not too posh and perfectly Home Counties. In fact she has a very familiar voice and I cannot quite think whose voice it is. Pity I have not been able to see Colin ...
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Response 147 of 1325: Donna DL (fitzwd) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (04:19) * 1 lines
Speaking of accents and for the benefit of us Yanks, are RZ and GP using a regional accent and where exactly in England would we find that? Is their accents different from how JE talked in P&P?
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Response 148 of 1325: Meredith (mpiatt) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (05:31) * 3 lines
The MSN site seems to have been revamped this AM, with new cast photos, including one with the aforementioned "reindeer" sweater (cannot believe it!) as well as other very dishy photos. Oh yes, I suppose I should look at the other cast photos...
Have always liked HG, but putting him beside CF there is NO comparison in talent, looks, etc. People (in the US) may go to see the film because of HG, but they'll stay because of CF! And of course RZ is the "it" girl at the moment, deservedly so.
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Response 149 of 1325: Allison M (Allison2) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (06:02) * 7 lines
Speaking of accents and for the benefit of us Yanks, are RZ and GP using a regional accent
No, all their accents are more or less RP ie Received Pronounciation - aka Standard english. The idea is that it is non regional but it is more likely to be spoken in the south-east. Being the UK of course we could have a whole discussion on what one might be able to deduce from minute variations in inflection, vowel tone etc:-) I would have put GP's accent in SD as RP but spoken by someone from the southeast of England owing to some slight, flattening, estuarine tendencies in the vowels (that is estuarine as in Thames Estuary);-)
GP's accent in SIL was much more the sort of RP spoken by someone who has been
educated at one of the more select girls' boarding schools.
RZ's accent is appropriately between the two. v v good, v v clever voice coaches.
See what a minefield it all is.
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Response 150 of 1325: Ben Broadbent (BenB) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (07:10) * 10 lines
Being the UK of course we could have a whole discussion on what one might be able to deduce from minute variations in inflection, vowel tone etc:-) (Allison)
From the brief sample in the trailer, I found RZ's accent better than GP's in SIL. (Look at what a dab hand I've become with the acronyms! Eat your hearts out Firthettes.) GP's was a bit TOO nasal and Estuary-ish - it was the kind of Sloane cockney beloved of hip, insecure London day school gals....not unlike Lady DI's accent. (Now THERE'S a minefield for you.)
Mark's right - RZ's first 'o'-vowel was very distinctive.
Can you blame poor Reese Witherspoon for being nervous? As if it isn't enough to have to act well. It's easier in a film, of course, but still...
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Response 151 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (08:06) * 10 lines
Wow Meredith! Yes, they've revamped and added things from the production notes as well. I do like the little post-it notes (something I thought of using too), especially the one on Colin's page:
Mmmmm Ding Dong
Maybe this Mum had got it right. Maybe this was the devastating hunk I'd been waiting my whole life to meet...maybe not.
That's the same turtleneck from the trailer. We just can't see the reindeer design in the shot.
Fascinating discussion on RZ accent, but what was that area of North London Colin had mentioned in an interview? "And it's actually a little bit confusing sometimes," he adds, "'cos there's a great incongruity when she tells you something about her childhood in Texas. She says something like 'Dad lassoing mustangs and taking me to the rodeo.' And you think, 'What, in Croydon?'"
Must have been joking. ;-D
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Response 152 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (08:18) * 1 lines
On the Events selection, it mentions the blue soup. :-)
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Response 153 of 1325: Ann W (amw) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (09:00) * 1 lines
Also on the Events section in very small letters it mentions that the soundtrack will be available 3rd April - Island Records.
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Response 154 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (09:41) * 8 lines
Thank you Allison, Mark and Ben for the Accent Address.
...all their accents are more or less RP ie Received Pronounciation - aka Standard english.
Is that in contrast to what we call BBC English like in P&P?
..estuarine tendencies in the vowels (that is estuarine as in Thames Estuary);-) , ["estuarine vowels"...now how about that for impressing the folks around the water cooler, Mari;-) ]This accent thing could have killed the film in UK....so glad it "passes the mustard'.
Eileen, do you see in your crystal ball more British films in the future for RZ?
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Response 155 of 1325: Evelyn (lafn) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (09:52) * 3 lines
Oh that reindeer sweater....too much...enough to say it won't replace the "wet shirt":-D
Karen, I don't think those are posties...look more like polaroid shots to me.
Allison, I find when the trailer stops, if you hit "Pause" , then hit "Play" it continues.I sorta play around with all those buttons.
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Response 156 of 1325: Karen (KarenR) * Fri, Mar 9, 2001 (10:02)