Topic 18 of 100: Dylan
Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (15:51) |
Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
Dylan
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Topic 18 of 100 [music]: Dylan
Response 1 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (15:52) * 1 lines
A place to talk about Bob Dylan.
Topic 18 of 100 [music]: Dylan
Response 2 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (02:00) * 1 lines
The Dylan topic.
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Response 3 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (02:09) * 13 lines
You know that Dylan line:
'Even the President of the United States sometimes must have to
stand naked.'"
Well, Paula Jones lawyers are quoting that. And the Republicans like
to play "The Times they are a changin'" every time they win an election.
Funny how the right has co-opted this.
Apparently, Paula Jones has described a certain piece of Clinton anatomy
in excruciating detail. And he may have to take a doctors test to see if
her description matches.
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Response 4 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (02:11) * 14 lines
And in a more serious note.
Bob Dylan is doing a series of nightclub dates across America in December,
and five shows with Van Morrison in New York City in January.
For the first time, a small number of tickets for each show will be
available via mail order.
Information is available at http://bobdylan.com/live/
You'll find the full set of confirmed dates, and detailed instructions
on how to order.
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Response 5 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (06:43) * 14 lines
Wow! Cannot imagine Dylan and Morrison together- what an increbible idea. Has anyone heard Morrison's take on "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue"? It was recorded in his Them days (Bang, I think?), and is really tremendous- Caledonian soul at it's finest.
Dylan used to boast that he "killed tin pan alley" (of course, as we all now know, it merely moved to Nashville)- but, when you consider it, he's done a fair impression in it's stead...
Top Ten Dylan Songs Made Hits By Other Artists (and, in the case of Cher, at least, this term is used loosely):
1. Blowin' in the Wind (Peter, Paul, and Mary)
2. It Ain't Me, Babe (the Turtles)
3. Quinn, the Eskimo (who in the hell did this song?- can't remember)
4. Mr. Tambourine Man (the Byrds)
5. All I Really Want to Do (Cher)
6. Forever Young (Rod Stewart)
7. Don't Think Twice (Peter, Paul, and Mary)
8. All Along the Watchtower (Jimi)
9. I Shall Be Released (the Band)
10.My Back Pages (the Byrds)
There are others, of course- no cover though probably as fine as Jimi's- with respect to the Band (whom I really love), the Byrds, Rod Stewart. Even Dylan has said Jimi's version of "Watchtower" was superior to his own, and Dylan actually altered the way he performed the song himself, to conform better to Jimi's vision of it...
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Response 6 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (09:34) * 4 lines
That Jimi Hendrix Watchtower rendition *is* awesome! Such
moving, exciting music.
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Response 7 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (01:17) * 1 lines
Anyone seen the magnificent D.A. Pennebaker film "Don't Look Back"? Released in 1967, it's a documentary of Dylan's '65 tour of England, and it is mesmerizing, beginning to end. Along with Scorcese's "The Last Waltz", the best rock and roll film made, probably...
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Response 8 of 45: Karl Stippick (Smiling) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (17:02) * 3 lines
Quinn the Eskimo was done by Manfred Mann and by Bruce Springsteen.. Manfred Mann made the pop charts...
Karl
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Response 9 of 45: Karl Stippick (Smiling) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (17:04) * 3 lines
Hmmmm. Manfred Mann's Earth Band... I couldn't remember that 2 minutes ago... *grin*
Karl
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Response 10 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (20:14) * 1 lines
Thanks- should have remembered that. Mann also covered a couple of Springsteen tunes, most notably, of course, "Blinded by the Light", and several more Dylan tunes. Are you certain, though, that Bruce covered "Quinn"? I have each of his records, and I don't remember that one...
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Response 11 of 45: Karl Stippick (Smiling) * Sat, Nov 15, 1997 (04:50) * 1 lines
I was thinking about this on the way home tonight and I was mistaken. Somehow I got the Springsteen cover confused in my mind with Quinn. I can't remember who else did Quinn but I do think somebody else did and it was at least a moderate hit...
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Response 12 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (13:50) * 7 lines
Got this off the net a few minutes ago- typically Dylan-esque exchange from an interview at Music Central:
Q: You've been hailed one of this century's greatest songwriters, yet you tend to accept the praise reluctantly. Why?
Dylan: I don't consider myself a songwriter in the sense of Townes Van Zandt, or Randy Newman. I'm not Paul Simon. I can't do that. My songs come out of folk music and early rock and roll. And that's it, no more. That's the foundation. I'm not a classical lyricist. I'm not a meticulous lyricist. I don't write melodies that are clever, or catchy. It's all very traditionally documented...
Not meaning to be disrespectful to the three artists Dylan mentioned (and I do like each of them), this is sort of like W.H. Auden saying, "No, I don't consider myself a real poet. Not in the sense of Rod McKuen, anyway." Simply amazing...
If you want to read the rest, it's at this url:
http://musiccentral.msn.com/weeklyfeatures/article/875/1
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Response 13 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (18:14) * 2 lines
Low self esteem?
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Response 14 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (19:01) * 1 lines
Typical Dylan weirdness, I guess- sort of the nature of many great artists, and iconoclastic thinkers in general, though (i.e., Marx, "I am not a Marxist", that kind of thing- when the iconoclast becomes the icon, perhaps his nature somehow compels him to trivialize himself, or at least that aspect of himself which caused him to become an icon. Then again, Dylan's always been pretty weird, hasn't he?).
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Response 15 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (10:55) * 2 lines
Any tour skeds available? Will he be in Austin?
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Response 16 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (01:49) * 1 lines
Nothing listed at his sight yet, beyond what you reported earlier...
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Response 17 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Sat, Nov 22, 1997 (03:31) * 2 lines
Just saw the most incredible thing, ending ABC's In Concert-
Dylan, Neil Young, Tom Petty, George Harrison, Eric Clapton, Steve Cropper, Duck Dunn, several others, too, jamming to Dylan's "My Back Pages"...Really sounded great, and Dylan sounded better than I've heard him in a long while...
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Response 18 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Nov 22, 1997 (04:49) * 2 lines
Sounds terrific. This show was on last night?
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Response 19 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Sat, Nov 22, 1997 (11:12) * 1 lines
Yeah, last night Dylan and Neil Young were featured...Didn't catch what the occasion was, though I believe I heard someone say it took place within last few days...
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Response 20 of 45: Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (12:53) * 1 lines
Bob Dylan is one of the worst singers I have ever heard. It therefore speaks volumes about the quality of his words and music that I listen to them every chance I get (which isn't often in Jamaica).
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Response 21 of 45: Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (12:55) * 1 lines
Bob Dylan reminds me of Peter Tosh. Neither of them sings well, both of them sing exactly what comes to their mind without trying to make it more lyrical or artistic, and both are (sorry, Peter was; he's dead) great musicians.
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Response 22 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (15:17) * 5 lines
sigh...
i know what you're saying, but don't think that stuff about dylan singing "badly" is accurate...
first, the voice you know as his is an affectation... it is a sound he purposely conveys, to give power, honesty to the lyric... if you've ever heard "lay, lady, lay" (in which he sings more in the traditional sense) you know that he can carry a tune, within the pre-dylan definition of the term...
and second, dylan's voice cuts me... can think of a very few artists possessing the emotive vocal ability of dylan... he really moves me, not just with the lyrics, but with the sound touching them...
also, it is my impression, too, that he is a perfunctory musician... often seems that the arrangement of the sound, too, is not a big priority to him... "lyric" and "art" are pretty much what he's about...
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Response 23 of 45: Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (18:11) * 3 lines
I'm sorry, but I have only one Dylan album, and the first song on it is "Rainy Day Women #12 & 35, where his singing is atrocious. His best singing on that album is in "Blowin' In The Wind" (and the singing on that one wasn't that good!)
BTW, that album, with a copyright of '65 or thereabout, has a rap piece in it called "Subterranean Homesick Blues"!
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Response 24 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (19:54) * 2 lines
perhaps it's a matter of expectation (and personal tastes, of course)...
it is a mistake to approach dylan as one might tony bennet, however... it was never his goal merely to please, or to entertain...
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Response 25 of 45: Sam Blob (Afor) * Sun, Dec 14, 1997 (09:31) * 5 lines
As I've said, I still listen to him (though his singing makes it a bit difficult!)
I'm not a Tony Bennett fan, more of a Simon & Garfunkel and Bob Marley fan. And as I said, I also like Peter Tosh, who is no great singer, although you can hear every word he says quite clearly.
But Dylan, like Marley & Tosh, sang about his time and his situation, which, sadly enough, hasn't changed, because it's also our time and our situation! S&G weren't so far out of it either!
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Response 26 of 45: Sam Blob (Afor) * Sun, Dec 14, 1997 (09:33) * 3 lines
I keep talking about Peter Tosh in the present tense. I don't know why; the man's been dead for about ten years!
BTW PLEASE do not confuse Peter Tosh (former Wailer) with Peter Tork (former Monkee). Apart from the first name, they have NOTHING in common!
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Response 27 of 45: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (01:34) * 2 lines
They both never had two arms and two legs?
Wow...
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Response 28 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (18:59) * 2 lines
you know, if i'm not mistaken, davy jones actually jammed with the wailers for awhile...
so, that'd be another connection (you know, beyond the arms/legs thing)...
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Response 29 of 45: Sam Blob (Afor) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (19:32) * 3 lines
The Wailers actually jammed with something as insipid as Davy Jones?
Then again, I prefer the Monkees' version of "Day Dream Believer" to Anne Murray's (I used to think that I liked only one Anne Murray song; then I foud out that it was not Anne Murray but Michael Jackson who sang "One Day In Your Life"!)
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Response 30 of 45: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (19:37) * 1 lines
BEN!
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Response 31 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (19:41) * 3 lines
actually, i was teasing you re: davy jones (you're getting harder to piss off, sam)...
Yeah, i agree that the monkee's version is "superior" (though do hate using that word in any monkees-context)...
and don't you agree that, music aside (even), anne murray is more of a man than michael jackson? she may even have fathered as many children...
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Response 32 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (19:43) * 1 lines
uhhhh... WILLARD(?)
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Response 33 of 45: Sam Blob (Afor) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (20:28) * 3 lines
Michael Jackson peaked at Thriller and has been downhill ever since.
Anne Murray and Michael Bolton should do a duet together, then it would be obvious to me what the worst single in the world is.
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Response 34 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (20:33) * 1 lines
my god, that's a bone-chilling thought...
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Response 35 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (03:59) * 27 lines
Dylan is touring with Van Morrison right now and they're
getting great reviews and jamming together some.
A recent Van Morrison playlist from a live gig where
he did a number with Dylan (see note):
1/21/98, MSG:
Burning Ground
Fire In The Belly
It Once Was My Live
Foreign Window
Raincheck
Who Can I Turn To?
Summertime in England
Love in the Afternoon
Vanlose Stairway
This Weight
Domino
Blue Suede Shoes (w/Dylan)
Sometimes We Cry
Cleaning Windows
Northern Muse(Solid Ground)
See Me Through/Soldier of Fortune/Thank you falettin, etc.
It's A Man's World
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Response 36 of 45: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Tue, Jan 27, 1998 (00:18) * 1 lines
christ, that sounds great...
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Response 37 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (23:46) * 5 lines
Bob Dylan Lyrics Search engine at
http://bobdylan.com/search/
Type in a word and see what happens.
Topic 18 of 100 [music]: Dylan
Response 38 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 8, 1998 (19:30) * 3 lines
Check out http://www.bobdylan.com, it's done by a wellbeing and it's
*great*; really good stuff for Dylan fans.
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Response 39 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (12:28) * 47 lines
Million Miles
You took a part of me that I really miss
I keep asking myself how long it can go on like this
You told yourself a lie
That alright mama, I told myself one too
Im trying to get closer but Im still a million miles from you
You took the silver you took the gold
You left me standing out in the cold
People ask about you
I didnt tell them everything I knew
Im trying to get closer but Im still a million miles from you
Im drifting in and out of dreamless sleep
Throwing out my memories in a ditch so deep
Been so many things I never did intend to do
Well Im trying to get closer but Im still a million miles from you
I need your love so bad turn your lamp down low
I need every bit of it for the places that I go
Sometimes I wonder just what its all coming too
Im trying to get closer but Im still a million miles from you
I don't dare close my eyes and I don't dare wink
Maybe in the next life Ill be able to hear myself think
Feel like talking to somebody but I just dont know who
Well Im trying to get closer but Im still a million miles from you
Yes, the last thing you said before you hit the street
Gonna find me a janitor to sweep me off my feet
I said thats alright mama you do what you gotta do
Well Im trying to get closer but Im still a million miles from you
Rock me pretty baby rock me all at once
Rock me for a little while rock for a couple of months
And Ill rock you too
Im trying to get closer but Im still a million miles from you
Well theres voices in the night trying to be heard
Im sitting here listening to every mind polluting word
I know plenty of people who would put me up for day or two
Yes, Im trying to get closer but Im still a million miles from you
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Response 40 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Sep 10, 1999 (08:16) * 2 lines
Dylan and Paul Simon are playing in Austin Sept 13, I may call to see what
tickets are going for today. At the Irwin Center, our biggest venue.
Topic 18 of 100 [music]: Dylan
Response 41 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (08:30) * 56 lines
Tickets for Dylan and Paul Simon go on sale at 10 am today. Call
512-471-7744 to order. I wonder what they'll for?
Here's the set they did July 23.
Set list for Friday night, July 23.
Paul Simon came out first. Nice, slick, polyrhythmic production. Songs
range from the recent Cape Man broadway play, on back.
Bridge over Troubled Waters
[unknown: "I can't run but I can walk much faster than this?"]
The Boy in the Bubble
[unknown: "ooh ahh ooh ahh do what you want?"]
Trailways Bus
Mrs. Robinson [nice bo diddley guitar lick inserted here!]
Me and Julio
Further to Fly
Graceland
Cool Cool River ? [I believe in the future I will live in my car?]
Slip Sliding Away
Diamonds in the soles of his shoes
Call Me Al
ENCORES:
[forget the name... "it was late in the evening ... first thing I
remember....]
Still Crazy after all these years
INTRODUCES DYLAN. Together:
Sounds of Silence
I Walk the Line
Blue Moon of Kentucky
Knocking on Heaven's Door
Intermission
DYLAN (pure rock and roll--damn, did he enjoy himself jamming with the
guys; voice, almost indecipherable):
Hand of the Lord [old country gospel?]
Mr. Tambourine Man
Desolation Row
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
Tangled Up In Blues
All Along the Watchtower
Lay Lady Lay
Memphis Blues Again
[unknown: It's not dark yet, but it's getting there]
Highway 61
ENCORE:
Rolling Stone
Blowing in the Wind
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Response 42 of 45: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (13:04) * 1 lines
Gosh, that sounds SOOOO cool! With all this counter-culture business the sixties just seems so exotic. I wish I could just see ONE of those artists perform live.
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Response 43 of 45: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Sep 15, 1999 (13:59) * 2 lines
You will baby ree. They'll come to your world sometime. Or you'll come
to ours.
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Response 44 of 45: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (03:33) * 1 lines
That's true. I'll just have to be patient and hope they don't all die off before I get to see them.
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Response 45 of 45: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (15:02) * 8 lines
Bo Diddley's still alive and busy.
Bo is the man who put the ROCK in Rock 'n' Roll... Makes ya wonder who got things to roll? OK, Bo wasn't counterculture, hes was just the guy who created the music all sixties rock acts started off from. EVERYBODY covered BO: The Who, The Yardbirds, Manfred Mann, and especially Iggy Pop, who's first single with his band The Iguanas in 1964 was a Diddley-cover. Bo rules! Riette, if you want to see what the Stones and the early Who, etc., were about, listen to the Diddley-Daddy himself!
Bob Dylan used to tour Europe until at least mid-Eighties. The Stones do it on every tour, but I wouldn't really bother... I saw Joan Baez in the Eighties.
For more on Bob Dylan, how he went from folk to rock and what it all meant then,
see "Invisible Republic : Bob Dylan's Basement Tapes" by Greil Marcus (publ. 1997).
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