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Topic 22 of 71: soccer

Fri, Sep 20, 1996 (23:39) | Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
Soccer. My theory is that this sport would be much more popular if a
goal counted more than one point. Most folks like *high* scoring games
like football and basketball. They made a soccer movie here in Austin
and the fields around Zilker Park are real active most of the time. Any
here play soccer or follow the sport?
164 responses total.

 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 1 of 164: Kennebec  (Kennebec) * Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (20:44) * 10 lines 
 
I live in the Northeast. Soccer is the predominate sport for high school
and children. It is very popular here because you can put so many kids
onto the field at once, the rules are basically very simple, and the equiptment
is quite inexpensive. When this sport is played well it can be very exciting.
My gut feeling is that this is the sport of the future. Sorry football fans!
I have relatives that live in Texas that swear by football and I am sure the game will continue to florish there for many years to come. In Maine we have
very limited resourses. In some school systems here they are desperately trying
to keep their football programs alive. The funding is just not there. Just
my opinion from another state and perspective.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 2 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (22:06) * 3 lines 
 
Soccer is very popular around Austin. In fact, they filmed a soccer movie with Robert Redford
here. Zilker Park is the place most folks play. I never developed an affinity for soccer as a sport
personally, because I grew up with football, basketball, and baseball and we never played it in school much.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 3 of 164: Kennebec  (Kennebec) * Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (22:09) * 8 lines 
 
I too grew up with football, basketball and baseball/softball. Soccer is
a recent phenomenon. I have really grown to appreciate the sport in the last
three or four years. I have three children of various ages who all are skilled
soccer players. I joke that I learned this sport through osmosis. Anyway,
I really think if you are a sports nut you will come to appreciate soccer.
We are very supportive of all our local sports teams from Pee Wee to
High School (and beyond actually) and although we coach, our playing days
(accept for quick pickup games)are pretty much over.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 4 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Dec  1, 1996 (23:15) * 1 lines 
 
What part of the country do you hail from now?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 5 of 164: Kennebec  (Kennebec) * Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (18:17) * 7 lines 
 
Midcoast Maine. We are in the middle of basketball playoffs for our Middle
School age son, so I havn't been around much on the Net. I have several
neices, nephews and a brother living in Texas.(Well, actually my brother
is a retired oil executive who drives around the country in a motor home.
But he spends at least 4-5 months in Texas visiting his four kids and grandchildren).




 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 6 of 164: Kennebec  (Kennebec) * Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (18:36) * 22 lines 
 
Midcoast Maine. We are in the middle of basketball playoffs for our Middle
School age son, so I havn't been around much on the Net. I have several
neices, nephews and a brother living in Texas.(Well, actually my brother
is a retired oil executive who drives around the country in a motor home.
But he spends at least 4-5 months in Texas visiting his four kids and grandchildren).
We live in a small town. Our local schools are generally combined with
other small towns, sometimes combined with small cities. Our high school
has only 300 students. We have an excellent soccer program that has
produced over 20 State Champion teams in 30 years. Our boys made the
final four this year but were eliminated at the quarter finals. They were
last years Maine State Champions in their league. Every year we are finding it
more and more difficult to compete because of our small size. While other school districts are growing, we are shrinking. We still seem to be producing
competitive kids though.
Our neighboring school district has a combined football team of basically any
kid in the county who wants to play. There are still a few from our town who
travel there to play. I know I have gone on a little too long about this but
here in grass root America, soccer seems to be taking over as the sport to play.
My question would be . . if soccer replaces (you know I don't REALLY mean replace) football in the local school systems where will all the future football
players for college and pro's come from? If soccer overtakes football in
popularity, and more young kids (girls and boys) play soccer what will happen to
the football of the future? Just curious.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 7 of 164: T. J. Cellery  (TJ) * Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (14:38) * 3 lines 
 
First of all I really don't think that "SOCCOR" will ever take over football, unless the owners and players screw it up like baseball did "the former all-american sport........I have watched football for many years and still follow some clubs like: Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspurs both in England, A.C. Milan in Italy and Celtic in Scotland as well as the Irish National Team in World Cup Play.........but like baseball or golf, you have to be a real fan to watch the game.....when you are not playing...
...American football seems to get everyone involved, man, women and children......i.e. American Football League in Europe with almost all sellouts in England, Spain, Germany and Scotland....How many sellouts for soccor here in the U.S. for the new league???????? Get realistic, american football is as much a show as a sport, and they will figure out a way to keep getting players even if some high schools drop the sport. And we are a capitalistic country.....money still talks and football has the money...
..


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 8 of 164: Ginger Coplan (ginger) * Sat, Jun 14, 1997 (21:54) * 1 lines 
 
Show me the money!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 9 of 164: alejandro romay  (romayrio) * Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (21:25) * 1 lines 
 
I live in mexico and soccer is very popular here, I think that mexico coud win a word cup. what do tou think?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 10 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (22:38) * 7 lines 
 
Tell us why you think that and who is Mexico's competition?

I would be very interested in your answer, from one more literate
in the world of soccer.

And then I have even more questions about soccer . . .



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 11 of 164: Boyce will be Boyce  (boyce2) * Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (16:25) * 8 lines 
 
Well, the U.S. qualified for the world cup last week, Mexico the week before,
and Jamaica a few minutes ago rounded out the contingent from the CONCACAF
(North, Central America and Carribian).

Mexico is clearly the leader of that group, but I don't think they're
even close in ability to the South American powerhouses, Brazil and Argentina.

But anything can happen. I just hope the U.S. can make the second round again.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 12 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (22:05) * 3 lines 
 
I assume you're pulling for the USA, who is your second pick if the US doesn't
get the cup. And where are the cup finals going to be played?



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 13 of 164: Boyce will be Boyce  (boyce2) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (10:34) * 4 lines 
 
I like Romania, but I wouldn't mind seeing Mexico go all the way.
Yes, I'm primarily a USA fan.

The cup's in France, all next summer.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 14 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (10:52) * 3 lines 
 
Summers a great time for this, no competition from
football and basketball.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 15 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jun 27, 1999 (18:47) * 8 lines 
 
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Korea USA gamein the 39th minute of the first half. Tied zip zip.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 16 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jun 27, 1999 (18:49) * 30 lines 
 
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 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 17 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul 28, 1999 (11:07) * 9 lines 
 
Cool interview with Michelle Akers:

http://espn.go.com/interact/chat/chatakers990604.html

which I found on

http://www.michelleakers.com/




 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 18 of 164: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 19, 2000 (17:36) * 19 lines 
 
20 Hurt in Fights Before Turin Derby
TURIN, Italy (Reuters) - Two soccer fans were recovering in hospitals and 18
people including nine policemen received first aid treatment after violence
before Sunday's derby match between Juventus and Torino, police said.
One fan fractured his foot while trying to climb over a gate at the Delle Alpi
stadium. The other suffered a head wound.
Police fired tear gas at a group of around 500 supporters who were throwing
bottles, stones and flag staves at one another outside the ground about an
hour before kick-off.
The trouble reportedly started when a small group of Juventus fans tried to
reach the ``Maratona'' end of the stadium reserved for Torino followers.
Order was restored before kick-off and the match, which Juventus won 3-2,
passed off without incident.
The derby match had been subject to a row over ticket allocation. Juventus
declined to make tickets available to Torino fans, arguing it would mean
having to move some of their season-ticket holders in the ``Maratona'' to
different seats.
The Interior Ministry intervened in favor of Torino and also moved the kick-off
time from 8:30 p.m. (1930 GMT) to 3:00 p.m. to help police control the fans.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 19 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Apr 12, 2002 (10:45) * 24 lines 
 
bbs.co.uk writes

BBC Sport Online chief football writer Phil McNulty insists history shows
Sven-Goran Eriksson should ignore sentiment and leave David Beckham out of
his World Cup squad unless he proves his full match fitness. David
Beckham is following in a rich tradition of England captains by carrying
an injury in his World Cup baggage.

It is a part of England's history - a history that tells us if Beckham has
not proved his full fitness he should get nowehere near the steps of the
plane to the Far East.

Sven-Goran Eriksson does not appear a man given to sentiment, and no
amount of scientists pointing at skeletons of the metatarsal bone, or
life-size front page pictures of a foot, should persuade him otherwise.

If Beckham is not in full working order on the day England need him to
prove his fitness, he should not travel.


Robson went into - and out of - the World Cup injured


He must not travel . . .


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 20 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sun, Apr 21, 2002 (16:45) * 1 lines 
 
I've been watching the events of soccer finals similar to the ones for collegiate basketball. That is exciting - I have been hoping Greece would make it into the finals. We'll see.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 21 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 29, 2002 (22:19) * 14 lines 
 
AEK Athens wins Greek soccer cup

28/04/2002 19:35:52

AEK Athens on Saturday night downed Olympiakos Piraeus 2-1, winning the
Greek soccer cup for the 12th time.

The victory came a week after Olympiakos beat AEK 4-3 in a key match
for the championship.

AEK last won the cup in 2000.

http://www.hri.org/news/greek/apeen/2002/02-04-28.apeen.html



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 22 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Mon, Jun 17, 2002 (14:42) * 5 lines 
 
I wonder when the USA will admit they have good soccer team they have reached the quarter finals of the WORLD CUP they have beat some of the best teams in the world.

A soccer < FOOTBALL > player has to be in the peak of fitness they have to be on the move for two 45 min halfs with no time out not like a few games that I can think of.

England for the CUP?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 23 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 17, 2002 (15:56) * 3 lines 
 
Me too! I as astounded to discover we were still in the pack! Happy me. I wish I was where they showed it. Alas, I am visiting and my control over the TV is limited to late night hours.

USA USA USA USA !!!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 24 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jun 17, 2002 (18:41) * 1 lines 
 
They have a fighting chance against Germany, I understand.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 25 of 164: Moon Dreams  (Moon) * Mon, Jun 17, 2002 (19:16) * 6 lines 
 
They have a fighting chance against Germany, I understand.
I believe they do too.

Keeping fingers crossed for Italy's match tomorrow. I just hope they don't cancel any of their goals. Forza Azzuri!

If they win tomorrow we will see Italy vs Spain next and that would be a great match.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 26 of 164: Moon Dreams  (Moon) * Tue, Jun 18, 2002 (10:30) * 14 lines 
 
Italy loses to Korea?!

It is a well known fact that FIFA wants to promote soccer in the East for monetary purposes. They wanted either Japan or Korea to advance. Have you noticed that every single team that has played Korea has had red cards against them, Portugal even two! You are blind if you don't see the blatant favoritism. Totti expelled???? Our goal annulled???? Korea getting a goal kick in the first 3 minutes????

You can't win if the referee is against you period.


Viva España!!!
But beware of the referee.
This really sucks. :-(

Italy has to put in a complaint to FIFA. We had 4 regular annulled in 4 games?
What ever happened to fairplay?



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 27 of 164: Moon Dreams  (Moon) * Tue, Jun 18, 2002 (10:31) * 2 lines 
 
That should be: We had 4 regular goals annulled in 4 games?



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 28 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Tue, Jun 18, 2002 (10:33) * 8 lines 
 
There are some Big Football countys knocked out of the World cup it only
shows how good the rest of the world is at catching up with us, and it
can only be for the good of FOOTBALL the real Football game.

England for the Cup

Will Tiger win the British open if not who will.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 29 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Tue, Jun 18, 2002 (10:40) * 5 lines 
 
Sound like sour grape's to me if your team loses and you moan about standarda
have a look at some of the dirty play? that is the reason for the bookings

PLAY THE BALL NOT THE MAN



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 30 of 164: Moon Dreams  (Moon) * Tue, Jun 18, 2002 (11:15) * 1 lines 
 
You obviously need glasses. Not commenting here anymore.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 31 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Tue, Jun 18, 2002 (17:14) * 10 lines 
 
Yes I use glasses but not shadded one's
now Italy has been knocked out sit back and
enjoy the rest of the games.

ps think of it the next world cup is in 4 years
time they may have a better team then and win the
World cup again?.

England for the cup.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 32 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (06:04) * 21 lines 
 
USA USA USA!

Go team.

S Korea wins and the country that held it as a colony from 1910-45 loses.

Soccer/football fans are anything but passive:

Rowdy Italian fans cause trouble in Australia

Melbourne, June 19. (Reuters): Italian fans in Australia kicked and spat at police after Italy's shock World Cup exit, Melbourne police said.

Police said today that they made several arrests after trouble broke out in the Carlton area of the city following the 2-1 golden goal defeat by South Korea late Yesterday.

``Unfortunately a rowdy bunch of about 300 to 400 fans went into the streets and caused trouble for the rest of the community,'' Victoria State police said in a statement.

``Disgruntled fans threw firecrackers, lit flares and started a fire on a shop awning during the disruption that police have labeled as a disgrace.

``(Police) were spat on and kicked by others in the mob,'' the statement said. One man was arrested for allegedly damaging a police car.




 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 33 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (06:14) * 258 lines 
 
espn.com:

In a 2002 World Cup of shocking upsets, South Korea may have pulled
off the biggest one of them all so far on Tuesday as it stunned
three-time champion Italy 2-1 in extra time to reach the
quarterfinals. The Azzurri were on the verge of victory, but Korea
equalized in the 88th minute. Then, with the match heading toward a
penalty shootout, Korea's Ahn Jung-hwan scored a 116th-minute golden
goal

Wednesday, June 19 ESPN2, 12:00 am ET WORLD CUP 2NIGHT


FIFA World Cup 2002 Schedule

Time Zone: EDT

GROUP A

Match Date Teams
Venue
5/31 07:30 FRANCE 0-1 SENEGAL
Seoul

6/01 05:00 URUGUAY 1-2 DENMARK
Ulsan

6/06 02:30 DENMARK 1-1 SENEGAL
Taegu

6/06 07:30 FRANCE 0-0 URUGUAY
Pusan

6/11 02:30 DENMARK 2-0 FRANCE
Inchon

6/11 02:30 SENEGAL 3-3 URUGUAY
Suwon

GROUP B

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/02 03:30 PARAGUAY 2-2 SOUTH AFRICA
Pusan

6/02 07:30 SPAIN 3-1 SLOVENIA
Kwangju

6/07 05:00 SPAIN 3-1 PARAGUAY
Chonju

6/08 02:30 SOUTH AFRICA 1-0 SLOVENIA
Taegu

6/12 07:30 SLOVENIA 1-3 PARAGUAY
Sogwipo

6/12 07:30 SOUTH AFRICA 2-3 SPAIN
Taejon

GROUP C

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/03 05:00 BRAZIL 2-1 TURKEY
Ulsan

6/04 02:30 CHINA 0-2 COSTA RICA
Kwangju

6/08 07:30 BRAZIL 4-0 CHINA
Sogwipo

6/09 05:00 COSTA RICA 1-1 TURKEY
Inchon

6/13 02:30 COSTA RICA 2-5 BRAZIL
Suwon

6/13 02:30 TURKEY 3-0 CHINA
Seoul

GROUP D

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/04 07:30 SOUTH KOREA 2-0 POLAND
Pusan

6/05 05:00 UNITED STATES 3-2 PORTUGAL
Suwon

6/10 02:30 SOUTH KOREA 1-1 UNITED STATES
Taegu

6/10 07:30 PORTUGAL 4-0 POLAND
Chonju

6/14 07:30 POLAND 3-1 UNITED STATES
Taejon

6/14 07:30 SOUTH KOREA 1-0 PORTUGAL
Inchon

GROUP E

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/01 02:30 IRELAND 1-1 CAMEROON
Niigata

6/01 07:30 GERMANY 8-0 SAUDI ARABIA
Sapporo

6/05 07:30 GERMANY 1-1 IRELAND
Ibaraki

6/06 05:00 CAMEROON 1-0 SAUDI ARABIA
Saitama

6/11 07:30 CAMEROON 0-2 GERMANY
Shizuoka

6/11 07:30 SAUDI ARABIA 0-3 IRELAND
Yokohama

GROUP F

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/02 01:30 ARGENTINA 1-0 NIGERIA
Ibaraki

6/02 05:30 ENGLAND 1-1 SWEDEN
Saitama

6/07 02:30 SWEDEN 2-1 NIGERIA
Kobe

6/07 07:30 ARGENTINA 0-1 ENGLAND
Sapporo

6/12 02:30 NIGERIA 0-0 ENGLAND
Osaka

6/12 02:30 SWEDEN 1-1 ARGENTINA
Miyaki

GROUP G

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/03 02:30 CROATIA 0-1 MEXICO
Niigata

6/03 07:30 ITALY 2-0 ECUADOR
Sapporo

6/08 05:00 ITALY 1-2 CROATIA
Ibaraki

6/09 02:30 MEXICO 2-1 ECUADOR
Miyaki

6/13 07:30 ECUADOR 1-0 CROATIA
Yokohama

6/13 07:30 MEXICO 1-1 ITALY
Oita

GROUP H

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/04 05:00 JAPAN 2-2 BELGIUM
Saitama

6/05 02:30 RUSSIA 2-0 TUNISIA
Kobe

6/09 07:30 JAPAN 1-0 RUSSIA
Yokohama

6/10 05:00 TUNISIA 1-1 BELGIUM
Oita

6/14 02:30 BELGIUM 3-2 RUSSIA
Shizuoka

6/14 02:30 JAPAN 2-0 TUNISIA
Osaka

ROUND OF 16

Match Date Teams
Venue I 6/15 02:30 GERMANY 1-0 PARAGUAY
Sogwipo

J 6/15 07:30 DENMARK 0-3 ENGLAND
Niigata

K 6/16 02:30 SWEDEN 1-2 SENEGAL
Oita

L 6/16 07:30 SPAIN 1-1 IRELAND
Suwon

M 6/17 02:30 MEXICO 0-2 UNITED STATES
Chonju

N 6/17 07:30 BRAZIL 2-0 BELGIUM
Kobe

O 6/18 02:30 JAPAN 0-1 TURKEY
Miyaki

P 6/18 07:30 SOUTH KOREA 2-1 ITALY
Taejon

QUARTERFINALS

Match Date Teams
Venue QF II 6/21 02:30 BRAZIL v ENGLAND
Shizuoka

QF I 6/21 07:30 GERMANY v UNITED STATES
Ulsan

QF IV 6/22 02:30 SOUTH KOREA v SPAIN
Kwangju

QF III 6/22 07:30 SENEGAL v TURKEY
Osaka

SEMIFINALS

Match Date Teams
Venue SF II 6/25 07:30 WINNER QF I v WINNER QF IV
Saitama

SF I 6/26 07:30 WINNER QF II v WINNER QF III
Seoul

THIRD PLACE

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/29 07:00 LOSER SF I v LOSER SF II
Taegu

FINAL

Match Date Teams
Venue
6/30 07:00 WINNER SF I v WINNER SF II
Yokohama



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 34 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (06:15) * 16 lines 
 
QUARTERFINALS

Match Date Teams
Venue
QF II 6/21 02:30 BRAZIL v ENGLAND
Shizuoka

QF I 6/21 07:30 GERMANY v UNITED STATES
Ulsan

QF IV 6/22 02:30 SOUTH KOREA v SPAIN
Kwangju

QF III 6/22 07:30 SENEGAL v TURKEY
Osaka



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 35 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (08:22) * 8 lines 
 
Yes it is a pitty that a small group of IQ-ZERO'S can spoil a good tournament
a County that gets to the finals has achieved something, and we should remember
what they have achieved and not the IQ-ZERO'S that courses trouble by fighting
etc.


England for the cup.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 36 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (11:37) * 16 lines 
 
Hi All
The Football world cup has shown the World how good the smaller teams have become and we all as members of the world should congatulate all who have
taken part in it.

But it is a pitty to see the bad side the unsporting part that some of the
fans portray ie RIOTING FIGHTING ETC. Now to make it worse a Chairman the
Italian football team PERUGIA has sacked the South Korian who scored the
winning goal against Italy < is this fair play > What he is saying throw
the game or your out to any player who plays for him.

the reason given was I will not employ a player who ruined Italin Football
surly this statment ruins the Image of Italian Football.

I am sure the genuine ITALIN People do not support his actions

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 37 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (12:50) * 3 lines 
 
It's a rough and tumble world out there. Isn't it Joe?

The US dominates in nearly every sport and in the Olympics. If soccer catches on here, watch out! We've got all the ingredients to become *the* dominant soccer team for decades to come if the resolve crystallizes.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 38 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (15:41) * 5 lines 
 
Hi Paul
FOOTBALL is a differant game to normal sport quite often the smaller
teams win. so no one dominates for long

England for the cup


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 39 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (20:40) * 3 lines 
 
It's simple, we will crush you Joe. It's the American way!

USA USA USA.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 40 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (03:55) * 3 lines 
 
Wishfull Thinking

England for the cup or the best team ie England


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 41 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (05:52) * 34 lines 
 
A great article about the ambience that Scotsmen and others find when they visit the venue where the world cup is being held.

http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/sport.cfm?id=671372002

South Korea is a hotbed of football and passion

ALAN PATTULLO


LOVE hotels they are apparently dubbed, but don’t be fooled. They go easy on the romantic touches: the roaring hearth fire, the chilled bottle of champagne in the ice bucket and Rimbaud, Shelley, Skakespeare on the cabinet next to the antique four-poster bed.


From the International Herald Tribune:

Despite the uproar over the work of some referees and linesmen at this World Cup, FIFA, soccer's international governing body has been standing behind its 72 much maligned employees. Mistakes happen, but overall, people are satisfied, said FIFA spokesman Keith Cooper. It is an extraordinary claim, given the list of countries outraged by referee decisions, which stretches from Portugal through Spain, Belgium, Italy and Turkey to Mexico and beyond. And the anger is justified.

http://www.iht.com/articles/61992.html

By Joe Havely
CNN Hong Kong

SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- As they turn their attention to Saturday's quarter-final showdown with Spain, South Korea's World Cup heroes are already reaping the rewards of their stunning success.

After knocking much-fancied Italy out of the tournament Tuesday the Korean giant-killers have earned themselves hefty bonuses, free flights and a stack of consumer goods from South Korean companies eager to associate themselves with the team's success.

On Monday, the government also announced that the team, having made it through the first round of the tournament, would be exempted from mandatory military service that may have hampered team preparations and qualifying for the 2006 World Cup in Germany.

Under Korean law all able-bodied men under 30 are obliged to complete
. . .

more at

http://europe.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/worldcup/06/20/korea.rewards/index.html



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 42 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (05:55) * 24 lines 
 
U.S. says it has nothing to lose
HISTORY AT STAKE, BUT PRESSURE GETS DEFLECTED TO GERMANS
Mercury News Wire Services

SEOUL, South Korea - Pressure? What pressure?

The United States was 48 hours from its biggest game in history -- Friday's World Cup quarterfinal against Germany at Ulsan, South Korea -- and Coach Bruce Arena was fielding questions with the same ease and confidence goalkeeper Brad Friedel has handled penalty kicks.

He even injected humor into some of his answers.

When asked how he would counter Germany's size, he replied: ``It's impossible to match their size unless we go back to the United States and bring over the L.A. Lakers.''

Arena flashed a Shaquille O'Neal-like grin. He looked downright relaxed. Is it possible he wasn't feeling any pressure heading into a game that could change the worldwide perception of American soccer?

``Pressure? I don't think so,'' Arena said. ``The team that's supposed to win is Germany, not us. If we lose, we're fine. We go home and everyone will be happy with us. I don't know how the German team would do if they lose to the United States. They might not be heading right back to Frankfurt after the game.''

Nils Kaben, a German television reporter, agreed.

``If you lose to the U.S. in the World Cup,'' he said, making a throat-slitting gesture, ``it is not accepted.''



http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/3508291.htm



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 43 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (05:56) * 21 lines 
 
A tradition began with Pele 32 years ago

BARRY WILNER, AP Sports Writer Thursday, June 20, 2002


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



(06-20) 02:36 PDT YOKOHAMA, Japan (AP) --

Every time Pele ponders the upcoming World Cup game between England and Brazil, memories of 1970 come flooding back.

It was 32 years ago that Pele led Brazil to its third championship in 12 years and began the postgame custom of swapping jerseys.

Pele wanted to honor England's Bobby Moore, so he whipped off his gold No. 10 jersey and handed it to Moore, who gave Pele his white shirt.




http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/06/20/sports0536EDT0200.DTL


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 44 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (05:57) * 31 lines 
 
And more, from the same source, from the great Pele:

He's not so sure there will be good memories after Friday's game in Shizuoka. Pele admits England has a stronger all-around team than Brazil, but his nation counters with more individual skill.

And that skill has not been fully displayed yet at this World Cup.

"Individually, Brazil has players who can make a difference," Pele said, mentioning the three Rs: Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho. "Ronaldo is not 100 percent and he is afraid to push it. Even then, he has made a difference. He is a very quick player. But he is not at his best."

That's a scary thought, considering Ronaldo has five goals, tied for the tournament lead.

"Six months ago, I saw him in Milan and then in Sao Paolo, and I told him exactly what would happen," Pele recalled. "In 1966, I was very upset, I got an injury and Brazil lost in the World Cup. Then, in 1970, I had my best World Cup."

Ronaldo was ill before the 1998 final and played poorly in Brazil's 3-0 loss to France. He's had two knee operations since, and has been plagued by self-doubt.

But, as Pele predicted, Ronaldo has rallied from those tough times to become the player every opponent must stop.

"Rivaldo has scored goals, but he has not played his game yet," Pele added. "But Ronaldinho, he will be a great star."

Pele likes what he has seen from England's defense and especially from midfielder Nicky Butt, who he rated the best player of the first two rounds. He said Moore, who died in 1993, would be proud of his country.

"England is a better team, better organized," he said. "Brazil has had a little problem with its formation. England does not.

"Each team has one or two players who are playing at that (high) level. David Beckham has been so-so. Butt has been unbelievable the way he has worked and supported."

Pele won't consider Brazil the top choice to win an unprecedented fifth championship. He's avoiding any predictions.

"Five months ago, Brazil, England and Germany were on the second level," he said. "Italy, France, Argentina and Portugal were on the No. 1 level, and they have all gone home.

"I still prefer not to put Brazil as the favorite," he added with a nervous laugh.




 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 45 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (06:45) * 10 lines 
 
S.Korean sport prodigies garner attention amid World Cup - 
Reuters
 - 37 minutes ago

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea's unexpectedly good progress in the World Cup finals
to reach the quarter-finals has thrown fresh light on some of the country's ...
Metsu accuses Turkey of denigrating Senegal more... - Yahoo! Headlines - 1 hour ago
OSAKA
World Cup: Owen Fit for England-Brazil Classic - Reuters - 39 minutes ago
YOKOHAMA
Arena: No pressure on USMiami Herald - 42 minutes ago
... United States was 48 hours from its biggest game in history -- Friday's World Cup
quarterfinal against Germany at Ulsan
US team's game plan: the faster the betterSan Francisco Chronicle - 1 hour ago

It's reality time for the US World Cup team
Sportscasting great Jack Buck had us by his throatSan Francisco Chronicle - 1 hour ago
... The South Korean player who scored the winning goal in Tuesday's shocking 2-1 World
Cup win over Italy
Playing favoritesBaltimore Sun - 41 minutes ago
There s something magical about watching a World Cup match. There are the rabid
fans with painted faces


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 46 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (06:48) * 6 lines 
 
sf gate:

The battle probably will be won and lost in midfield, which should be quite crowded because both teams favor a 3-5-2 formation. The U.S. is expected to field a starting lineup very similar to the one that defeated Mexico, with two possible exceptions.

Eddie Lewis probably will lose his place in left midfield because his main strength -- the ability to cross the ball into the box -- is negated by the prowess of German goalkeeper Oliver Kahn and the height and aerial strength of the German defensive trio of Christoph Metzelder, Carsten Ramelow and Thomas Linke.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 47 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (06:55) * 6 lines 
 
YOKOHAMA, Japan (Reuters) - The chances of the World Cup quarter-finals kicking off with a classic worthy of the occasion improved considerably Thursday with the news that England striker Michael Owen would be fit to face Brazil.

The 22-year-old Owen, scorer of 17 goals in 40 England matches, trained for the first time with his team Thursday after picking up a groin injury in the second round game with Denmark in which he scored his first goal of the tournament.

England manager Sven-Goran Eriksson said Owen, European Player of the Year last year, would lead the front line in the first quarter-final of the tournament against Brazil in Shizuoka at 0630 GMT



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 48 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (07:15) * 73 lines 
 
From the NY TImes sports pages today:
Ratings Wake Up Network Projections
By BILL CARTER

Despite being televised at what qualifies as the wee hours of the
morning in the East, the World Cup soccer matches from South Korea and
Japan have been viewed by audiences of up to seven million viewers,
greatly exceeding expectations for all three television networks that
have carried the games.

And with the United States team progressing further than it has in the
past 70 years, the World Cup is, against all odds, "generating a lot
of buzz," according to Mark Mandel, the spokesman for ABC Sports.

The network, which in a complicated arrangement with Major League
Soccer has first call on English-language telecasts of the game, even
considered pre-empting "Good Morning America" on Friday to carry the
United States-Germany quarterfinal match live, Mandel said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/19/sports/soccer/19RATI.html




And this http://www.azcentral.com/sports/azetc/0618ITALY.html :

Stunned Italians Say Death to Referee


Reuters
Jun. 18, 2002

ROME - Dismay, disbelief, anger and tears -- Italy took their World
Cup defeat against South Korea like a slap around the face on Tuesday
and blamed the Ecuadorian referee for their shock exit.


''Death to the referee,'' chanted hundreds of Italian supporters
gathered in the heart of Rome to watch the game on a giant television
screen.

Scuffles broke out in front of the capital's central train station as
Italians hurled water bottles and insults at a small group of South
Korean supporters who had gathered to celebrate their team's historic
victory.

''Thieves, thieves, you stole the game,'' the Italians yelled before
police moved in to restore order.




And this

:

Hairdresser Off to Rescue Beckham's Hair
Jun. 18, 2002 08:38

LONDON - One of Britain's top hairdressers is off to Japan on a
mission to re-style England captain David Beckham's trend-setting hair
in time for Friday's World Cup showdown with Brazil.


Beckham's wife Victoria called on Aidan Phelan, her husband's personal
hairdresser, after seeing the England captain's spiky Mohawk collapse
into a bedraggled mop during England's rain-soaked game with Denmark,
local media said.

``David has obviously been putting his football first ... It seems
that it needs a bit of a trim,'' said Phelan, Britain's 2000
hairdresser of the year, according to the Guardian newspaper.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 49 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (10:35) * 40 lines 
 
England Stood Still
Commerce Stops for England-Argentina World Cup Match

By Mark Stone



L O N D O N, June 8 — British offices, shops and banks stood deserted at mid-day Friday. And just days after throngs turned out to celebrate Queen Elizabeth's Golden Jubilee, the streets were nearly empty too.

The bars, however, were packed … for a game of soccer — or, as the British call it, football.
It wasn't just any game. It was England vs. Argentina at the Sapporo Dome in Japan, with both looking for a place in the second round of the 2002 World Cup.

It was a match not to be missed for football-crazy English fans. There was, however, one potential problem. Because of the eight-hour time difference, the kick-off was in the middle of the working day.

But nothing comes between English soccer fans and their football. An estimated four million people took the day off work — over a quarter of the working population. A further two million are estimated to have called in sick.

Huge Rivalry

Despite introducing the game to the South American nation more than a century ago, England has only beaten Argentina a handful of times.

Not since 1966 has England claimed victory over the Argentineans in a World Cup tournament. England was famously denied the victory both in 1986, when the referee missed Diego Maradona's hand ball into the goal, and in 1998 when David Beckham was sent off the field in questionable circumstances.

The rivalry is only heightened by the English victory in the Falklands War. Argentineans still insist the islands are rightfully theirs and that, one day, they will have them back.

Shock! Available Seats on the Trains

On the day of the big game, roads throughout Britain were unusually quiet, and rail commuters who went to work were, for once, all able get a seat for their journey. Two train companies had to cancel trains because of "driver shortages" and "short term sickness."

The Center for Economic Research in London estimated that the football fever could cost $1 billion in lost output.

For those who did turn up to work, many businesses organized for their employees to watch the game. Some people took extended lunch breaks, while others saw the game on TV at work with numerous employers providing giant TV screens and free food — an attempt to prevent lost revenues.

One supermarket chain put up television screens in all of its stores ensuring that its 120,000 staff could see the match, while in bars across the nation seven million more pints of beer were consumed than usual. Around the country, big screens were erected in squares and parks to accommodate the supporters.

Was it all worth it? It seemed so. England won 1-0 thanks to a David Beckham penalty in the 44th minute.

One can only imagine the hysteria should England make it to the fin

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/britain_argentina_worldcup020608.html



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 50 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (10:35) * 1 lines 
 
One can only imagine the hysteria should England make it to the final.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 51 of 164: Minkee  (maryw) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (10:45) * 1 lines 
 
On Aus tv tonight was a report on World Cup - Thai prison-style. 7000 prisoners - sufficient number of foreigners to make up several international teams (sad really!). In opening ceremony, flag carriers were prison cross-dressers dressed up in national costumes. France won the competition. Awarded with golden replica of WC trophy. How's that for promoting international relations?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 52 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (03:54) * 12 lines 
 
ENGLAND 1 BRAZIL 2

We where beat by the better team on the day congratulations to BRAZIL

We have a good team but on the day Brazil showed us the way home.

I am proud of the English team for getting as far as the did now we
must look forward to 2006 when WE WILL WIN THE WORLD CUP

ENGLAND FOR THE CUP IN 2006

JOE


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 53 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (05:35) * 3 lines 
 
My condolences, I was rooting for England to make it to the finals against the US. My tivo didn't record the match because ESPN switched from ESPN2 to ESPN at the last minute and it was too late for tivo to get the program change. What a dissappointment when I turned on the tv this morning to watch the match replay.

USA should be starting right about now and I'm looking to see if there's any live webcast of at least the audio.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 54 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (05:45) * 4 lines 
 
There actually is a webcast of sorts at

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/en/



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 55 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (06:10) * 5 lines 
 
Germany has just scored a goal and is up 1 zip.

The Philips MatchCast is a bust, I'm watching Charles Gibson commentary on ABC. The tv where I am doesn't get ESPN.

But there's still time.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 56 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (08:44) * 12 lines 
 
GERMANY 1 USA 0

The USA Played there hearts out they where good in defence, middle
and on the attack but missed out on luck in my mind the better team
lost but that is football at least the USA has a team to build on for
the future.

I still have a team to suport in the finals with my wife being GERMAN

GERMANY FOR THE CUP ?

JOE


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 57 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (09:23) * 1 lines 
 
Two heartbreakers, that's for sure. I'll have to cast my lot with Germany as well. Being half German, half Norwegian (now there's a country we'll never see in the world cup!)


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 58 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jun 30, 2002 (09:37) * 18 lines 
 
Brazil 2, Germany 0
Ronaldo scores goals that lead Brazil to unprecedented fifth World Cup title
By Barry Wilner

ASSOCIATED PRESS

Sunday, June 30, 2002

YOKOHAMA, Japan (AP) — Ronaldo, the world's greatest goal-scorer, capitalized on an error by the best goalkeeper, Oliver Kahn, then scored again to lift Brazil to an unprecedented fifth World Cup title Sunday night, 2-0 over Germany.

Ronaldo, the brilliant prodigy who battled injuries for nearly two years, recaptured all of his stardom and more with a superb tournament. He topped it off with the second goal on a wonderful passing play, becoming the first player in 32 years to get eight goals in one World Cup.

The Germans actually were controlling play, looking as adventurous as Brazil, until Ronaldo struck in the 67th minute. He stole the ball from Dietmar Hamann and fed his attacking partner, Rivaldo. His hard left-footed shot was stopped by Kahn, who was impenetrable nearly the entire month.

But the ball ricochted off Kahn's arms directly to Ronaldo, who touched it home with his right foot.

Ronaldo then put away Brazil's championship and tied Pele with 12 career World Cup goals on a low shot after Rivaldo cleverly allowed Kleberson's pass to roll through his legs to Ronaldo.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 59 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sun, Jun 30, 2002 (09:44) * 7 lines 
 
The Man of the Match was the ITALIAN REF he played a blinder he
is in no doubt the best REF in the world.

Also this FOOTBALL WORLD CUP has been a great ambassador for the game
world wide.

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 60 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 19, 2002 (15:15) * 3 lines 
 
Hmm reading this lively discussion it occurs to me that NO one can just play the ball and not the flag on any chosen contest. I know I could never convincingly root for a team playing against my alma mater. I just hope in all cases they win or lose with class. After all, it IS just a game. Whoever said that has never felt the adrenaline surge when the home team scores.

*sigh* so much for impartiality. Good show, Joe. Sorry about that, Moom. Who did win the World Cup? Can anyone remember?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 61 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Mon, Aug 19, 2002 (17:13) * 5 lines 
 
The Best Team won the world cup, looking forward to the next
world cup.

Newcastle United to win the English league.
Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 62 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (04:46) * 1 lines 
 
Why do you say Newcastle will win, Joe?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 63 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (16:58) * 1 lines 
 
I say Newcastle because I see into the future,the real reason I am a supporter of the TOON ie Newcastle also I beleive Manchester united is a spent force.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 64 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (22:03) * 4 lines 
 
I have also heard that about Manchester United. They had a long reign over the football leagues. It is time for others to take their places in the headlines.
Good luck to Newcastle. Please keep us informed as to their fortunes this season. It'll be interesting to watch the little we get in the US.

Premier League, is it?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 65 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (17:11) * 4 lines 
 
Yep Newcastle is in the Premier league and they have started well they won
there first game against West Ham 4-0, it is good to beat the Cockneys from
down South, with use being Geordies.
Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 66 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (23:08) * 1 lines 
 
Congrats to the lads from Newcastle. It has to be the water from the Tyne doing all the work. West Ham is as good a place to start winning as any place. The wee bit of Scots blood I have, rejoices!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 67 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (14:03) * 8 lines 
 
Well I am down in the dumps Newcastle lost I will
have to have a pint of Newcastle Browm ale to lift
me uo again, at least the Manager of the winning team
Kevin Kegan used to Manage the TOON ie Newcastle.

score Manchester City 1 Newcastle United 0

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 68 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (15:53) * 1 lines 
 
Manchester CITY (did not know Manchester had two teams) beat you? Must have been an off day! Have a pint for each of us - that should drown much in the sorrows department and cauae more problems for tomorrow morning!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 69 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (16:20) * 5 lines 
 
Yep Manchester has 2 teams Man united nearly as good as Newcastle lol
and Manchester city.

Joe from Geordie Land < Northumberland Englands Border County >.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 70 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (16:42) * 3 lines 
 
Know where Alsager is in the Midlands near Stoke-on-Trent is? That is where my grandfather was born. I think most of my relatives there are in the Crewe area now. Probably stiff-backed preachers who would definitly disapprove of me.

Do you know how to play the pipes? Play them for me and I will follow you anywhere!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 71 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (17:06) * 9 lines 
 
On a completely different tack:
Soccer diplomacy

The coach of Turkey’s national soccer squad was quoted yesterday as energetically backing a joint bid
by Greece and Turkey to host the 2008 European football championship. “We love you,” Senol Gunes
said in an address to the Greek people reported by Turkey’s Anatolian News Agency. “We want to think,
live and play with you.” Gunes added that Greece and Turkey are best suited to host the championship,
as they “have natural beauties, historical features and transportation facilities.”
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100018_24/08/2002_20099


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 72 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (17:37) * 7 lines 
 
I Know Stoke-on-trent as My wife has family in Staford also Stoke has
some beautiful water gardens there and fountains that dance to music
they also have a football team.

Joe
ps is it the BAG PIPES or the NORTHUMBRIAN PIPES you like?



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 73 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (23:41) * 5 lines 
 
OH YES!!! Big time fan of the pipes. As I said, play them for me and I will follow you anywhere! IK guess it is one of those things you either REALLY love or really hate. I am the former and have mind-blowing CDs to show for it. Still, there is nothing like listening to the lone piper on Edunburgh's battlements. Still and all, lowland pipes are fantastic and should not stand aside for anything the Highlanders have.

My ex's family came from the area of the River Liddle in Strathclyde, and despite being my "ex" he is a splendid man and a tribute to a family he calls "border raiders."

I am delighted to hear Stoke has a team. Now,if I become a fan that is a sure means to a dismal season. Perhaps I should become an advocate for their opposition?!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 74 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 25, 2002 (01:25) * 28 lines 
 
Does this happen to ALL soccer teams?

Waitresses replaced by men so they wouldn't distract footballers


The Greek national football coach demanded waitresses at the
team hotel in Romania be replaced by men so his players
wouldn't be distracted.

The Greek team was in Constanta to play a friendly against
Romania last night.

But Otto Rehhagel noticed the players were becoming too
interested in the waitresses serving lunch the day before.

He asked the hotel manager to swap them for waiters because
he was worried they would upset his team's focus and
performance.

He told the daily paper Pro Sport: "We didn't go there to
concentrate on Romanian girls but on beating the Romanian
team.

"The boys needed to concentrate solely on the match. And our
1-0 win shows I made a good decision."

The Greek players stayed in the resort of Mamaia.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_655431.html?menu=


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 75 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sun, Aug 25, 2002 (06:51) * 2 lines 
 
I Wonder what the waitresses were wearing to distract the players?.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 76 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 25, 2002 (17:41) * 2 lines 
 
*grin* I wonder if they were dining at Hooters or if they catered it? Perhaps it was what they were NOT wearing?! Service with more than a smile, I suspect.
Actually, it sounds like a coach who keeps a tight rein on his team. Where is the fun in that?!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 77 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 31, 2002 (20:29) * 56 lines 
 
Joe, this one's for you - from a different viewpoint:

Massive interested in Man. United game
By Soteris Charalambous

INTEREST in the Champions league match between Maccabi Haifa and
Manchester United, being staged at Nicosia's GSP on October 18, has been
"massive" according to Ronis Soteriades President of the Manchester United
Supporters Club in Cyprus and sources in Israel.

"Since the draw, there has been a great response," said Soteriades, "I've even
had calls from people who are not even football fans wishing to get tickets just
because it is Manchester United."

Sources in Israel have suggested that up to 15,000 Haifa fans could make their
way to the 25,000-capacity all-seater stadium in Nicosia. It is the first time an
Israeli club has made it to the group stages of the Champions League.

GSP officials yesterday discussed issues of ticket allocation, pricing
and security arrangements with club officials although no official statements were
released.

"No doubt all the matches will be a sell out, in addition to Manchester United's
appeal, Greek Champions Olympiakos will attract many Cypriots, as will last
year's runner's up Bayer Leverkusen," said Soteriades.

Speculation surrounded the question of ticket prices, with some
sources suggesting that ticket prices could be as high as '50. However, a
UEFA spokesman said, "Ticket prices for the away fans may not exceed the
price for the equivalent ticket paid by the home fans."

The spokesman also confirmed that all three matches would be held in
Cyprus, despite speculation in the media that one or even two of the matches
could yet be staged in Israel.

Israeli sources said that Haifa fans could be offered a travel/ticket package priced
at $100 that would include airfare, travel to and from the stadium and the cost of
entry.

FIFA regulations state that away supporters must be allocated tickets of no less
than five per cent of the total capacity of the stadium, approximately 1,000
tickets. Leaving a minimum of 8,000 available.

Speculation in Cyprus suggested that tickets remaining after allocation to both
'home' and away fans would be offered to the general public as a 'three-match
season ticket' in an effort to generate maximum income to cover the security
costs by cashing in on the appeal of Manchester United.

Sources in Israel also claim that the chance to play against Manchester United
had already lead to in-fighting amongst the Haifa players, with players arguing
over who had the right to swap shirts with David Beckham at the end of the game.

Olympiakos will be the first team to play a Champions League group match
in Cyprus on September 24, with the Leverkusen game taking place on October
1.
http://www.goGreece.com/news/headlines/story.html?id=7750


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 78 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sun, Sep  1, 2002 (09:21) * 11 lines 
 
Hi
Yes it is interesting the interest in MAN-U, the Champions League
is a league of the best teams from Countries in Europe that play
FOOTBALL ie The proper FOOTBAL it is played alongside the countrys
own League.

But I must say that my team < THE TOON > Newcastle United also are in
the Champions League will win it, also the English League.

Newcastle for the treble Joe



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 79 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sun, Sep  8, 2002 (00:34) * 3 lines 
 
I hear you. I just wondered if the Greek version of the MU game seemed anything other than "different."

Keep us posted. I bet all my cookie money on on your say-so!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 80 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (07:14) * 24 lines 
 
Lions sign ex-Fox

Sacked by Leicester, Wise joins Millwall
Posted: Friday September 20, 2002 6:47 AM



LONDON (AP) -- Two days after losing his appeal against his sacking by Leicester City, Dennis Wise was given a chance Friday to resume his career at Milllwall.

Millwall chairman Theo Paphitis said the division one club expected to complete the signing of the former England and Chelsea midfielder on Tuesday.

Wise had his Leicester contract terminated after breaking teammate Callum Davidson's cheekbone in a July 26 fight during the club's preseason tour of Finland.

Wise took the matter to the Football League's Football Disciplinary Commission, which ruled that Leicester could only fine the player and not fire him.

But City appealed to the League's Appeals Committee, which ruled in the club's favor Wednesday.

Paphitis said he met with Wise on Thursday to offer him the chance to join Millwall.

"As a result he agreed to do so," Paphitis said. "We shook hands and once he's sorted out a few legal formalities we expect him with us on Tuesday."

Paphitis said he had no qualms about signing the 35-year-old

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/2002/09/20/uk_rdp_ap/


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 81 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sat, Sep 28, 2002 (17:12) * 1 lines 
 
I think my cookie money is gone. Have they played and I missed it???


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 82 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Oct 12, 2002 (15:57) * 11 lines 
 
England 2 Slovakia 1
in the europian cup

pitty the game was spoiled bye 2 English fans
getting Shot which led to some fighting.

lets get back to putting the word sport back
into sport.

Joe England



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 83 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (05:23) * 5 lines 
 
How's Newcastle doing Joe?

And just who is Newcastle?

Is this your favorite team?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 84 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (13:25) * 12 lines 
 
Newcastle United is in the last 16 in the European league where the best
teams in the World play and just starting phase 2 in the League.

They are also in the English Premier League the best Football < SOCCER >
League in the World they started slow but climbing up to the top fast.

Newcastle is the Major City in the North east of England where the Geordie
comes from well known for Newcastle Brown Ale.

I have supported the TOON ie NEWCASTLE UNITED since I was knee high to a Grasshopper.

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 85 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (13:28) * 33 lines 
 
Robson 'excited' by Nou Camp return

By Ananova

Sir Bobby Robson has been handed a dream Champions League return to Barcelona as a reward for Newcastle's European heroics.

Robson will take his side back to the Nou Camp and a meeting with Louis van Gaal, the man who effectively replaced him there in 1997, after Newcastle were drawn in Group A with the Catalan giants, Inter Milan and Bayer Leverkusen.

And the 69-year-old, who won the European Cup Winners' Cup and Spanish Cup with Barca, admitted he can't wait to face them.

"These are very exciting times for Newcastle United and this is reflected in the draw," he said.

"All the 16 teams left in the draw are top quality sides, so it was not going to be easy whoever we were drawn against.

"The dream for me was going back to Barcelona having had two very enjoyable years there and, in particular, renewing my acquaintance with Louis Van Gaal."

The draw will also bring back memories for the United supporters who saw their side defeat van Gaal's side 3-2 in a Champions League first round clash back in September 1997.

However, a 1-0 defeat in the return match at the Nou Camp saw both teams knocked out of the competition at the first hurdle.

"There was no poor team in this round, but if there was, what's left now is the cream," Robson added.

"We'll just have to give it a go and see how good we are. I hope we don't start with three defeats," he joked.

Barcelona were the only team to win all of their six qualifying matches, finishing with an impressive 18 points from their six fixtures in group H.

Elsewhere, Manchester United will face Deportivo La Coruna, Juventus and Basle, while Arsenal take on Valencia, Roma and Ajax.

Copyright Ananova 2002 all rights reserved

15/11/02 13:50

Joe a TOON suporter


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 86 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (17:00) * 5 lines 
 
Newcastle United
Are also known as the MAGPIES due to the BLACK and WHITE Strip
They wear.

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 87 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Nov 15, 2002 (18:44) * 1 lines 
 
What was the deal with the Spice Girl kidnap attempt, what team does her boyfriend play for?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 88 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Nov 16, 2002 (10:47) * 7 lines 
 
From what I know it was a group of illegal immigrants that planed
to kidnap POSH SPICE and her kids she is Married to David Beckham
who is the Captain of Manchester United one of the best teams in
the country also David is Captain of England.

PS Newcastle United in my mind is the best lol
The MAGPIES < Toon > for the League


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 89 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Nov 16, 2002 (10:51) * 11 lines 
 
Man United kick off ITV live games



Manchester United's Champions League Group D match away to FC Basle will kick-off ITV1's live coverage of the second group stage on Tuesday, November 26.

The following night, Newcastle's match at home to Inter Milan will be shown live on ITV2.

Meanwhile, the ITV News Channel will broadcast live coverage of Arsenal's visit to Roma.

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 90 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Nov 16, 2002 (11:49) * 1 lines 
 
Will Newcastle be playing Machester United? What are the team mascots for these two teams and how do they compare?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 91 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Nov 16, 2002 (13:40) * 36 lines 
 
Newcastle United shook off a Champions League hangover to bank another three Premiership points by coming from behind to beat Southampton.

The Magpies' powers of recovery were tested to the limit in more than one sense as they put weary muscles and minds to the test once again and rescued victory from the jaws of defeat.

All thoughts of European glory were erased just 66 seconds into a hard-fought contest when James Beattie blasted home a superb volley, but Shola Ameobi's 41st-minute equaliser as Newcastle raised their game set the scene for full-back Aaron Hughe s to win it nine minutes into the second half.

Southampton's challenge eventually withered and died in the face of a United storm, although substitute Agustin Delgado set the alarm bells ringing with an 88th-minute turn and shot.

Beattie did little to help the United cause when, with just 66 seconds gone, he smashed an unstoppable volley past Shay Given and in off the post to give the visitors the lead.

Newcastle were guilty of squandering possession and not making the most of their opportunities to test the Saints defence in the face of a determined effort from the visitors, and it was not until Kieron Dyer started to pull the strings that they began to prosper.

And in the end, they could really have gone in at half-time with a lead.

Ameobi, who had earlier forced a fine save from keeper Antti Niemi, levelled four minutes before the break from close range, but it was the trickery of Dyer which created the chance as he ran on to Andy Griffin's pass and then turned Wayne Bridge deliciously before delivering a low cross towards the striker.

And it should really have been 2-1 within two minutes when Niemi slid into Shearer as he attempted to round him.

Shearer was furious when referee Clive Wilkes failed to point to the spot and received a booking - one of four in the first 45 minutes - for his pains, guaranteeing the official a noisy reception as he headed for the dressing room.

Hugo Viana, whether by design or not, was playing in a freer role and it was he who collected Gary Speed's pass to run at the heart of the Saints' defence.

The teenager's pass escaped Ameobi but fell for full-back Hughes, who prodded a close-range shot past Niemi to make it 2-1.

Dyer had the bit between his teeth and Viana was starting to turn on the style, but despite creating chances, Southampton stood firm.

Shearer had a goal disallowed for offside and Dyer saw two efforts blocked after mazy runs.

Niemi pulled off a good save to deny Shearer again with 75 minutes gone after Speed's quickly-taken free-kick, but their side received a wake-up call seconds later when Delgado looped a header over from Beattie's cross.

Shearer thought he had extended his side's lead 10 minutes from time when he powered in a header from Viana's corner, but Matt Oakley was in the right place at the right time to clear off the line with Niemi beaten.

But as fatigue began to take effect, Delgado went close to an equaliser two minutes from time after turning Caldwell and firing just wide.


Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 92 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Nov 16, 2002 (13:50) * 10 lines 
 
Newcastle play Manchester united twice in the Premier league
home and away they also could meet in the Chapians league if
they get into the next phase after this one which is the quarter
finals.

The mascot for Newcastle is a bird the MAGPIE as there strip is black and white

For MAN-U I do not know may be a big pay packet lol

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 93 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Fri, Nov 22, 2002 (18:22) * 15 lines 
 
NEWCASTLE UNITED V MANCHESTER UNITED
KICK OFF 12,15 UK TIME SAT 23/NOV

Newcastle wait on Bellamy


Sir Bobby Robson will make a late check on Craig Bellamy before deciding whether or not to play him at Manchester United.

Bellamy was pulled out of Wales' Euro 2004 qualifier in Azerbaijan in midweek to allow his recovery from a knee problem to continue.

Newcastle will be without Hugo Viana (knee), Laurent Robert (fractured cheekbone) and Titus Bramble (hamstring), while Steve Caldwell is suspended.

Andy O'Brien is fit, however, after missing the Republic of Ireland's friendly in Greece with a shin problem.

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 94 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Nov 22, 2002 (18:56) * 1 lines 
 
Are you going to the game?


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 95 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Nov 23, 2002 (08:54) * 4 lines 
 
No not today Man U is playing at home
so it is an away game for Newcastle

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 96 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Nov 23, 2002 (08:57) * 21 lines 
 
Man U 5 Newcastle 3
The best team on the day won < sob sob >

Ruud van Nistelrooy struck a hat-trick to clinch a 5-3 victory for Manchester United in a pulsating encounter.

The Dutchman scored twice before the break and completed his hat-trick after the interval to set up the win.

Newcastle, inspired by Alan Shearer who scored his 100th goal for the Magpies, fought until the end but the home side ran out worthy winners.

Paul Scholes put the home side in front, only for Olivier Bernard to level 10 minutes before the break when his cross caught Barthez out of position and sailed into the far corner.

United responded immediately and van Nistelrooy put them back ahead when he rose above Aaron Hughes at the far post before adding another in stoppage time by steering home Diego Forlan's mis-hit shot.

Newcastle needed a good start to the second period and got it when Shearer rocketed a shot beyond Barthez from 30 yards.

Yet again, United responded immediately, Forlan cutting his way past a couple of defenders to reach the by-line, where he crossed for van Nistelrooy to complete his hat-trick.

Solskjaer added a fifth for United before Bellamy gave the Magpies a little hope late on, heading in from close range.

Joe



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 97 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Nov 23, 2002 (16:50) * 39 lines 
 

News



Inter Battle Nov 23 2002




By The Evening Chronicle


United will have to play as well as they did against Juventus if we are to beat Inter Milan on Wednesday night.

That's the message from Sir Bobby Robson as Newcastle United prepare to start their Champions League second group stage against Inter Milan at St James's Park on Wednesday night.

Speaking before today's high noon shootout against Manchester United at Old Trafford, Sir Bobby told me : "Juventus was a massive result for us.

"Don't forget, they are the Italian champions, not Inter Milan. And Inter will be aware of that result we had at St James's Park over Juventus.

"As far as Wednesday night is concerned, it will be a similar match to that against Juventus and I believe one goal could win it again.

"And certainly we will have to play as well as we did against the Italians if we are to get our group phase programme off to a winning start."

Inter were involved in a derby match with AC Milan at the San Siro Stadium today - a game that was brought forward from tomorrow with the Italians' trip to Newcastle very much in mind.

And, of course, AC Milan entertain Spanish giants Real Madrid in a massive Champions League Group C clash at the San Siro on Tuesday night.

Added Robson: "Inter's derby match with AC Milan will be no harder than our game at Manchester United today.

"I see that their match is also being played today so I can only imagine it has been brought forward on purpose.

"I've sent our coach David Geddis across to look at that match in Italy. Our chief scout Charlie Woods watched Inter last week against Roma in a 2-2 draw and he was very impressed.

"We know they have very good players. They have Vieri and Crespo in attack plus players of the calibre of Cordoba, Zanetti and Matterazi who is a big, powerful lad at the back."





 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 98 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Tue, Nov 26, 2002 (17:15) * 23 lines 
 
Ferguson praises two-goal van Nistelrooy

By Ananova

Sir Alex Ferguson saluted Ruud van Nistelrooy after his two goals helped Manchester United to a 3-1 victory over Basle.

Van Nistelrooy's goals changed the face of the game as the Swiss champions got off to a breathtaking start.

They opened the scoring through Christian Jimenez in 31 seconds but Van Nistelrooy equalised in the 61st minute and then put United ahead with a brilliant individual effort.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer added a third as Basle wilted under the pressure.

Ferguson said: "Goals change games and Ruud certainly did that.

"His first goal changed the game while his second was a fantastic finish. He is a real match-winner.

"I see him in training every day and he is always fantastic. When you have someone like him in your side you are always a threat."

Ferguson added: "We made it difficult for ourselves. There was a lack of experience in our defending and we had to battle through.

"In an attacking sense we are always going to be a threat especially with Ruud. He had seen a gap for that second goal and what a finish it was."

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 99 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Wed, Nov 27, 2002 (17:50) * 29 lines 
 
Robson still proud of mauled Magpies

By Ananova

Sir Bobby Robson declared himself proud of his Newcastle side in spite of their 4-1 hammering at home to Inter Milan in the opening game of the Champions League second phase.

The writing was on the wall after just 66 seconds when Domenico Morfeo fired the visitors ahead and worse was to follow when Craig Bellamy was sent off after only five minutes for kicking out at Marco Materazzi.

Matias Almeyda and Hernan Crespo made it 3-0 at half-time and although Nolberto Solano pulled back a goal in the second half, substitute Alvaro Recoba scored with his second touch to compound Newcastle's misery.

But an upbeat Robson refused to criticise his players.

"It was a horrible, cruel, unforgettable, unforgivable night," said Robson.

"We got off to the worst possible start against a side full of intelligent, quick players but I can't complain and criticise players.

"It was a big result against us but in the second half I just through we were magnificent. We were very much in the game even though we were one man short.

"We struggled on without Bellamy and we were better than them in the second half.

"Anyone not at the game would have thought we would have had a bashing but we played very, very well and I am proud of the players."

The veteran Newcastle boss admitted he had not seen the incident which resulted in Bellamy being sent off but refused to defend the player and said the striker would be fined.

He added on ITV2: "From what I gather it was a correct decision by the referee.

"Craig has not behaved properly, he's been unprofessional and we will deal with it internally."

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 100 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sun, Dec  1, 2002 (15:13) * 27 lines 
 
The Newcastle 2 Everton 1

Robson thrilled as strike duo bounce back

By Ananova

Sir Bobby Robson hailed Alan Shearer and Craig Bellamy after they emerged from their Champions League misery to fire their side to a 2-1 victory over Everton.

The United captain, who was handed a two-game European ban for elbowing Inter Milan's Fabio Cannavaro, blasted home a stunning 86th-minute volley to cancel out Kevin Campbell's 17th-minute opener.

Bellamy - sent off for kicking Marco Materazzi on Wednesday - snatched victory at the death with a deflected shot.

Robson said: "Both lads have had a lot of publicity in the last three days and I think now it's their time to be praised.

"What happened on Wednesday is over, we've dealt with it. It wasn't very pleasant, but we've got over it, life has to continue and we've done that.

"It was never, ever in my mind that Craig or Alan should be left out of the side for what they did on Wednesday."

The quality of Shearer's strike, a blistering 25-yard volley from substitute Shola Ameobi's knockdown, was breathtaking, and almost left the 69-year-old lost for words.

"I don't think he's ever hit a better one in the past, and I don't think he'll ever hit a better one in the future."

United will decide on Monday whether or not to appeal against Shearer's European ban.

"I've spoken to Alan personally, I've had a minor meeting with the chairman (Freddy Shepherd) and Russell (Cushing, director of operations), and we'll come to a decision tomorrow."

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 101 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sun, Dec  1, 2002 (15:17) * 45 lines 
 
Newcastle 2 Everton 1
Alan Shearer and Craig Bellamy capped off a rollercoaster week by grabbing a goal apiece late on as Newcastle battled back to beat stubborn 10-man Everton 2-1.

Kevin Campbell put Everton ahead after 17 minutes, but Joseph Yobo was sent off four minutes later for pulling back Craig Bellamy as he bore down on goal.

Newcastle then had the lion's share of possession and created numerous chances but found Richard Wright a rock in the visitors' goal.

But Shearer equalised with four minutes to go with a super volley from 25 yards out.

Shearer - who was given a two-match European ban on Friday for an elbow on Fabio Cannavaro - set the stage for Bellamy, the red-card villain in United's 4-1 Champions League defeat at home to Inter Milan on Wednesday, to win it with a deflected s hot three minutes later.

Desperate to erase the memory of Wednesday night, United went for the jugular as Shearer, the impressive Kieron Dyer, Bellamy and Laurent Robert launched themselves at Everton.

With luck and a little more accuracy, they could have been home and dry by half-time as the visitors, hampered by the loss of central defender Yobo in the 22nd minute, were forced to endure a torrent.

That they withstood them was no surprise after a run of five successive 1-0 wins in the Premiership, Alan Stubbs and substitute David Weir, introduced at Lee Carsley's expense after Yobo's departure, in particular shining in another resolute defe nsive display.

To make matters worse for the home side, a seemingly endless wave of Newcastle attacks was punctuated by Campbell's customary goal at St James' Park as he escaped from defender Steve Caldwell to collect David Unsworth's long ball on his chest and poke a shot between the legs of the advancing Shay Given.

Newcastle's response was swift as Dyer, Robert and Nolberto Solano set about the task of stretching the 10 men but, although they found space and time to feed front men Shearer and Bellamy, they discovered, if they needed to be told, that Everton 's renowned stubbornness is no myth.

United might have been awarded a penalty after Bellamy appeared to be pushed by Stubbs and then tripped by Tony Hibbert before the goal, and the Welsh international - sent off against Inter Milan - saw a firm shot blocked by Richard Wright after Shearer had flicked a long ball on.

The Toffees keeper made up for a scuffed 20th-minute clearance to Dyer by saving well when the England midfielder returned the ball at pace, and then pulled off a superb stop to keep out Shearer's blistering header form a 34th-minute Robert corne r.

Dyer shot wide from 18 yards after being set up by Solano six minutes before the break and then Bellamy was inches away from getting a touch to Dyer's driven cross in first-half injury-time as Everton's resistance started to wane.

The second half unfolded in much the same fashion as the first as Newcastle hammered away at Everton but could not find a way past the massed ranks of blue.

Bellamy skipped past Thomas Gravesen on the edge of the box on 55 minutes and fired towards goal, where Stubbs hacked clear and then Gary Speed drove high over from 20 yards.

Olivier Bernard almost handed Tomasz Radzinski a chance with a weak header back to Given, but Andy Griffin went agonisingly close on the hour after Bellamy picked him out on the edge of the penalty area.

Wright blocked a firmly-struck effort from Solano and Robert whistled a shot wide, but the feeling that it was not going to be the Magpies' day grew on 69 minutes when Dyer crossed for Shearer at the near post and the ball hit his left leg and dr ibbled harmlessly wide.

The introduction of Wayne Rooney in place of Radzinski with 17 minutes remaining added further spice, but the emphasis was on defence as Newcastle made one final push.

Defender Andy O'Brien sent a header inches wide from Griffin's 81st-minute cross, and Robson made his final play seconds later as Caldwell and Speed made way for Shola Ameobi and Hugo Viana.

But little could a crowd of 51,607 have expected the game to end as it did.

There were only four minutes remaining when Ameobi headed down Robert's long ball for Shearer to send a volley screaming past the helpless Wright and into the net.

But there was more to come when Bellamy once again got on the wrong side of the Everton defence and, with the help of deflections from Li Tie and Wright, squeezed the ball inside the near post to complete a remarkable victory.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 102 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Dec  1, 2002 (17:13) * 1 lines 
 
Wow, exciting match!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 103 of 164: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec  3, 2002 (17:49) * 11 lines 
 
A rumor is floating around.

A guy I know has a pal in Liverpool has told him that the spin
around Fleet Street is that Posh has left Beckham.

He's been caught "nobbin' a bird." She has moved out and the News of the
World has the story ready to go but he's managed a temporary injunction
until friday but he has to prove it up. Evidently the bird he's nobbin'
is Owens sister.




 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 104 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Wed, Dec  4, 2002 (13:55) * 3 lines 
 
If it is True about Beckham nobbin a bird I am pleased it ain't
a MAGPIE bird < a MAGPIE is a mascot of NEWCASTLE UNITED>
Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 105 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Wed, Dec  4, 2002 (13:58) * 18 lines 
 
No further punishment for Shearer

By Ananova

Newcastle captain Alan Shearer has escaped further punishment after being handed a Champions League ban.

The 32-year-old decided not to appeal against the two-match suspension which will keep him out of his side's Group A trips to Barcelona next week and Bayer Leverkusen in February.

Shearer was punished by Uefa after disciplinary chiefs studied his clash with Inter Milan defender Fabio Cannavaro on video and ruled that he had elbowed the Italian.

Both the player and manager Sir Bobby Robson claimed that his actions had simply been those of a man trying to free himself from the Italian's bear hug, and although the panel took Cannavaro's provocation into account, they decided that the striker had to be punished.

Craig Bellamy, who was sent off just five minutes into the same game for kicking out at Marco Materazzi, was fined a maximum of two weeks' wages - an estimated £30,000 - by the club, but it is understood that Shearer will not face further action.

Chairman Freddy Shepherd indicated in announcing the player's decision not to appeal against his ban that the club would consider internally if they should act, but they have now decided that the suspension will suffice.

Bellamy will also miss the game at the Nou Camp after receiving an automatic one-match penalty for his red card, but will not discover until December 17 at the next meeting of the disciplinary panel whether he will face a longer ban.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 106 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Dec  7, 2002 (13:07) * 53 lines 
 
Shearer strikes to sink Villa
ASTON VILLA 0 NEWCASTLE 1

By Ananova

Alan Shearer headed a late winner for Newcastle at Aston Villa.

Shearer had worked tirelessly for little reward for the majority of the game but when his first chance presented itself, he made no mistake with a trademark close-range header.

It was his 12th goal of the campaign and earned Newcastle only their second Premiership away win.

Villa had scored 12 goals in their last three home matches but their previous failings in front of the posts returned in the opening 45 minutes.

Dion Dublin and Darius Vassell were guilty of squandering the type of chances that have to be taken at Premiership level, but in addition Magpies' goalkeeper Shay Given was in commanding form on his 200th appearance for the club.

Newcastle looked to have defensive problems that will need to be addressed before Tuesday's Champions League encounter in Barcelona.

But in the second half Sir Bobby Robson's side came more into the game as Laurent Robert woke from his slumbers and was a constant menace with his surges towards the Villa goal.

Villa were quickly into their stride and within 90 seconds Dublin got on the end of a cross from the recalled Ulises de la Cruz but sent his volley straight at Given.

The Newcastle keeper tipped over a swerving effort from Gareth Barry and spared Andy O'Brien's blushes when he raced out to thwart Darius Vassell who had seized onto a mis-hit back pass.

Vassell will feel he should have done better with a close range effort which he put wide after Newcastle had failed to clear a long throw from De la Cruz.

Given was again well positioned to cling onto a powerful low shot from Lee Hendrie which seemed destined for the corner of the net.

Newcastle briefly threatened and Villa keeper Peter Enckelman did well to turn away a left-footed attempt by Kieron Dyer after he had cut in to the box.

But he was relieved to see Craig Bellamy stab the ball wide with the goal at his mercy after he had failed to hold onto a straightforward looking cross from Nolberto Solano.

Villa were soon back into their stride and Thomas Hitzlsperger was inches wide from 25 yards out while Given again rescued his side after Dyer's back pass had only found Gareth Barry.

He saved at the feet of the England Under-21 skipper who shortly afterwards limped out of the action to be replaced by Mark Kinsella.

Villa continued to press forward and Dublin should have at least tested Given with a header from six yards out after he had flung himself forward to get onto the end of a right-wing cross from Oyvind Leonhardsen, but the ball looped wide.

The play followed a similar pattern after the break and Given had to hack clear at full stretch to deal with a back-pass from O'Brien after Dublin had flicked a header into the path of Hendrie.

Enckelman was called upon to make a rare save away to his right to cling onto an attempt from Jermaine Jenas but it was comfortable enough for the Villa 'keeper to deal with.

But Robert failed to hit the target after dispossessing Oyvind Leonhardsen and his shot drifted wide.

Villa were soon back on the offensive and Given managed to grab onto a rising shot from Vassell at the second attempt just as Dublin was about to pounce.

But Robert was starting to make his presence felt and Enckelman was twice called upon to thwart his powerful strikes.

Villa defender Ronny Johnsen became the first player to be yellow-carded after 68 minutes for a challenge on Bellamy.

Graham Taylor brought on Juan Pablo Angel for Dublin and he almost made an instant impact with a header which thudded against the bar from a Hendrie header.

But then with eight minutes left Mark Kinsella failed to prevent Andy Griffin from getting in his cross - and Shearer rose above De La Cruz to head home.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 107 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Wed, Dec 11, 2002 (17:41) * 42 lines 
 
Robson warning for Barca

By Ananova

Newcastle boss Sir Bobby Robson left former club Barcelona with a warning that he would be ready for the when they head for Tyneside in March.

The 69-year-old saw his side battle bravely at the Nou Camp but ultimately go down 3-1.

Newcastle lie bottom of Group A after defeats by Barca and Inter Milan - but Robson has not given up hope just yet.

"I've had a great time," he said.

"I've had a warm return to Barcelona, I've enjoyed my stay here.

"I'm disappointed about the result. I knew that we had a difficult task - it amazes me that Barcelona are not getting good results in the league. It's very mystifying.

"But they have to come back to Newcastle, and that's something that I will enjoy, and something that I will look forward to, and I hope that I can reverse that result."

United yet again got off to a bad start when Dani fired the home side in front with just seven minutes gone, but the hugely impressive Shola Ameobi equalised 17 minutes later only for Patrick Kluivert and Thiago Motta to clinch the points.

However, on another night, Ameobi could have completed a hat-trick, and although Barca had more than enough chances to win even more handsomely, Robson admitted that Motta's 58th-minute strike was the killer.

"We never gave it up," he said.

"At 1-1, it was anybody's game. Kluivert took a good chance, but we made it too easy for him.

"But possibly what lost us the match tonight really was the third goal because, at 2-1, the game was very open.

"Shola had chances to score with two good headers. One just went wide, one was saved on the goal line.

"He then got in again and hit a very good shot and Roberto Bonano made a very, very good save. We were very much in the game and we could have gone to 2-2. But what killed the match for us was the third goal."

A second successive defeat has left Newcastle with a monumental task to proceed any further in the competition, but Robson was refusing to admit that the dream was rapidly approaching its conclusion.

"You would have to say that Barca and Inter Milan are the favourites, but there are four games to go and in football, you never know," he said.

"We will not give it up, and you never know. There are four games to go and anything can happen."

Despite their defeat, Robson's players were warmly applauded by those travelling supporters who had decided to spend another 24 hours in the city following last night's postponement because of a waterlogged pitch, and the manager was full of prai se for the backing they gave.

"I'd like to thank them very much for sticking with us," he said.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 108 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 11, 2002 (19:41) * 1 lines 
 
I sat next to a former professional Rugby player on part of my flight to California. He spoke and sang to me in Welsh to my delight. He now lives in California, too, so he did not opine on world cup soccer. I would have loved to pick his brains about it.


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 109 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Thu, Dec 12, 2002 (07:31) * 7 lines 
 
Hi Marcial

Soccer is the most exciting game in the world
it brings tears when you win and it brings tears
when you lose

Joe


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 110 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Dec 14, 2002 (17:03) * 38 lines 
 
Saints and Newcastle rue missed chances

By Ananova

Southampton and Newcastle shared the points after a thrilling 1-1 draw at St Mary's Stadium.

After a first half overloaded with missed chances, Craig Bellamy made up for earlier profligacy by curling home a 20-yarder on 49 minutes.

But two minutes later, Chris Marsden poked home the equaliser and then went on to miss two guilt edged chances to win the game.

Indeed, it was Newcastle defender Andy O'Brien who came closest to scoring again, albeit into his own net as he thudded a header against his own crossbar in the final minute.

After Marsden, Rory Delap and Brett Ormerod had all tried their luck early on, Southampton had a considerable let-off when a free-kick was deflected into the path of Shearer on the edge of the six-yard box.

He was off balance but still nudged the ball goalwards and when Paul Jones parried his effort, Bellamy was left with a clear chance only to head wastefully wide.

Beattie attempted an ambitious 30-yard dead-ball effort of his own, which was also blocked, and when the loose ball fell to Ormerod, he was just as wasteful as Bellamy had been earlier in a similar position.

Back came Newcastle, with Kieron Dyer bursting clear and rounding Jones only to find that he could not shake off the persistent Claus Lundekvam, who foiled him when he attempted to shoot from a tight angle.

Gary Speed was also denied by Jones's acrobatic leap to tip his looping header over the bar before Fabrice Fernandes twice tested out Shay Given, who also had to hastily recover his ground to tip over Ormerod's speculative effort from the right f lank.

Jones was in similarly commanding form, diving at full stretch to tip a curling effort by Dyer around the post just before the break.

However, he was unable to stop Bellamy's 20-yard curling effort four minutes after the restart as, after a patient build-up, the striker was allowed the space to jink inside before taking aim.

It was soon almost 2-0 as Bellamy broke clear again before squaring the ball to Jermaine Jenas, but he got the ball caught up underneath his feet and Jones was able to intercept his mis-hit shot.

It was a costly miss as, with 52 minutes gone, Southampton were level. Fernandes provided the cutting edge down the right flank and when Newcastle's defence were unable to cut out his low cross, Marsden slid in to convert the ball from close rang e at the far post.

The Southampton midfielder should have scored again just over 10 minutes later, however, when he dived full length to meet Fernandes' cross and somehow placed his close-range header wide.

Marsden's mixed afternoon took a turn for the worse when he was left unmarked to meet a corner, only to place his header well over the bar, in what resembled a defensive clearance more than an attempt on goal.

Shearer did no better, however, when he spun onto a loose ball at the other end before Newcastle had an amazing escape in the final minute.

Tessem knocked over a hopeful cross and O'Brien, under little pressure, somehow sent a header which, for one heart-stopping moment, looked bound for his own net until it crashed against his own bar.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 111 of 164: NittanyLion   (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 14, 2002 (17:22) * 1 lines 
 
I hope you did not bet the farm on the outcome of that match! Wow!


 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 112 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Dec 21, 2002 (12:31) * 28 lines 
 
Solano turns on the style

By Ananova

Alan Shearer missed a 48th minute penalty but Newcastle beat 10-man Fulham 2-0.

Nolberto Solano capitalised on a mistake by keeper Edwin van der Sar to give the Magpies an eighth-minute lead.

Pierre Wome was dismissed for a bad challenge on Andy Griffin and Craig Bellamy struck 20 minutes from time to cement the victory.

The Magpies always looked the more likely to make the most of their possession, but they were grateful for a helping hand from keeper Edwin van der Sar.

He served up a series of mis-hit clearances to black and white shirts, one of which provided Solano with his opportunity to mark his return to action in style.

As the visitors regained their composure, they started to put the home defence under greater pressure, although neither Steve Marlet nor Steed Malbranque enjoyed any real service.

Robson's side continued to pose the greater threat and van der Sar's afternoon almost got a lot worse with 21 minutes gone when he again misdirected a clearance to Solano and had to rely on Andy Melville to get him out of trouble with a goal-line clearance.

Shearer missed a penalty in spectacular style just three minutes after the restart after Davis was harshly penalised for a tug on Dyer's shirt.

But undaunted, the United skipper lured van der Sar into an ill-advised challenge which cost him a booking and ultimately ended his afternoon through injury a few minutes later.

The Dutchman kept out a low Shearer drive from the resulting free-kick before making way for Maik Taylor on 62 minutes, but he can hardly have settled himself into the bath before he was joined by Wome, who was dismissed for a dreadful challenge on Andy Griffin three minutes later.

United were dominating, but it was not until the 70th-minute that they made the pressure tell, Dyer robbing Davis before feeding Bellamy, who showed Melville a clean pair of heels before firing home.

The Welshman could have doubled his tally within three minutes, but was this time denied by Taylor. Robert should have wrapped it up in style in injury-time after being played in by substitute Shola Ameobi.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 113 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Jan 11, 2003 (13:10) * 28 lines 
 
FT: West Ham 2 Newcastle 2

By Ananova

Jermaine Jenas stole a 2-2 draw for Newcastle at West Ham.

Newcastle scored first, the goal coming as the Magpies put together a flowing move down the right which exposed West Ham's defensive frailties.

Shola Ameobi did the good work on the flank, his low cross was helped on by Kieron Dyer to Craig Bellamy who turned and placed his shot past David James.

Joe Cole fired West Ham level after 13 minutes.

A throw-in from the right was headed on inside his own box by Gary Caldwell and Cole did well to hold off the challenge of Andy Griffin before picking his spot with a shot which beat Shay Given inside his right hand post.

Upton Park again erupted in celebration as Jermain Defoe scored a goal a minute before the break.

Steve Lomas - making his 300th club career start - did well down the right to get in a low cross which Defoe held up with his back to goal.

He turned one way, then another, and drilled an angled shot past Given.

The Irons were relieved to have James come to the rescue with a spectacular point-blank save in first-half injury time.

The ball fell perfectly for Clarence Acuna inside the six-yard box and his shot was true, but James - who has come in for criticism in recent weeks - stuck out a hand to somehow keep the ball out.

The second half became a more scrappy affair and it all went wrong for West Ham with 10 minutes remaining.

The ball fell invitingly for Jenas on the edge of the box and he hit a rising drive which flew into the top corner.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 114 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Jan 18, 2003 (13:23) * 26 lines 
 
FT: Newcastle United 2 Manchester City 0

By Ananova

Newcastle climbed to third in the table with a 2-0 win over Manchester City at St James' Park.

Alan Shearer, on his return from a one-match ban, needed just 10.5 seconds to remind his side just how important he is to them.

He charged down Carlo Nash's clearance and fired into the empty net to get his side off to the perfect start.

Nash was later to redeem himself with two saves each from Craig Bellamy, who wrapped up the points with a 64th-minute second, and Laurent Robert.

From the kick-off, the ball was rolled back to Steve Howey, who in turn played it on for Nash. The keeper's first touch was not the best, but when he looked up and prepared to clear, he saw the whites of Shearer's eyes as the 32-year-old scampere d across the newly-laid turf to block and then slot into the empty net.

Shaun Goater could have levelled within seven minutes but failed to control in front of goal from Aaron Hughes' misplaced header, but Nash had to redeem himself three minutes later after Shearer played Bellamy in, the keeper getting down well to block the Welshman's shot.

Marc-Vivien Foe's late runs into the box were causing the home side problems, as was the pace of Nicolas Anelka and Ali Benarbia's probing passes, and it was the Algerian who went closest to levelling with 24 minutes gone when he collected Niclas Jensen's pass inside the box but saw his shot come back off the post.

Newcastle had a good chance to extend their lead within 19 seconds of the restart, but Dyer failed to capitalise on good work by Hughes, Shearer and Bellamy, and the Welshman himself forced another good save from Nash on 52 minutes after being pu t in on goal by Nolberto Solano.

But City rallied and should have been level with 59 minutes gone after Anelka finally found time and space.

He raced on to Benarbia's through-ball and although Shay Given did well to get a hand to the ball as the Frenchman tried to round him, Foe passed up an opportunity to score when he missed his kick in front of goal and then Goater drove his shot s traight at the recovering keeper.

Newcastle made them pay five minutes later to go 2-0 up. Jenas delivered a superb pass into Robert's run down the left, and he teed up the ball perfectly for Bellamy to slide in at the far post and dispatch it beyond Nash.



 Topic 22 of 71 [sports]: soccer
 Response 115 of 164: JOE  (g7hvp) * Sat, Jan 18, 2003 (13:25) * 22 lines 
 
Keegan: Shearer's simply the best

By Ananova

Kevin Keegan described Newcastle skipper Alan Shearer as a "bargain" after watching him condemn Manchester City to defeat on his return to St James' Park.

Keegan, who pai