Topic 16 of 40: newsgroups
Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (15:17) |
Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
Newsgroups. Thousands of 'em. How do you get news? What newsgroups
do you frequent? How could news be better? Do you user the .forsale
newsgroups to shop for bargains? Do you use tin or trn? Or Netscape News or
Explorer News? Or another program? Is commercialism getting out of hand?
Should local groups be for locals only? What is property newsgroup netiquette?
27 responses total.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 1 of 27: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (15:17) * 20 lines
Q: How many USENET users does it take to change a light bulb?
A: 435,235
1 to change the bulb
4 to tell him he should have done it differently
365 to point out spelling/grammar errors in first 5 posts
1834 to flame the spell checkers
4598 to correct spelling in spelling flames
6785 to say please move to alt.spelling.lite.bulb
15,467 to say stop cross posting to soc.women
and alt.rape.all.men.are.scum, alt.adoption, and s.a.a.(m)
23,456 to endlessly debate which method is superior
236,789 to concatenate all articles to date, then quote
them, only to say, "Me Too"
106,345 to quote the "Me Toos" to say, "Me Three"
1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup
89,345 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion
was meant for, leave it here
10,584 votes for alt.lite.bulb
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 2 of 27: Ted Chong (tedchong) * Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (22:41) * 15 lines
I think people read newsgroups for their own interests, like me, I
tend to read my local (Singapore related) newsgroups first, like
sg.marketplace and soc.culture.singapore. But I also read computer
related newsgroups like linux, windows95 and unix groups.
I like tin because it is fast, clean and easy to use. I tried Agent
but I don't like it, when you read many newsgroups (like 100) the
hard disk space drops very fast...
Also the problem with usenet news is very hard to find a fast,
reliable and good NNTP server.
just my .2 cent
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 3 of 27: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (23:23) * 3 lines
What are they talking about on singapore.general these days. Which topic has the
most responses? What's the Internet scene like in Singapore in general?
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 4 of 27: Ted Chong (tedchong) * Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (04:13) * 22 lines
The most talk about tropic was the General Election 1997, which was
ended on Jan 2nd. The US even said some comments on Singapore Election
which the ruling party (People Action Party, PAP) links voting to
upgrading of public housing, ie vote buying and money politic. To bas
bad the oppositions only managed to win only 2 seats out of 83 seats
and PAP has absolute majority for the next 5 years. Here everything
is owned and controlled by the government (PAP) including the Internet,
they force all users to use the gaint proxy farm to block access to
political and prono sites on the Internet, they can do this because
they controll all the ISPs here.
Just for your info Singapore pays its ministers very well because
the government is PAP, a cabinet minister is paid US$1 million a
year before bonuses or perks. The Prime Minister is getting US$ 1.5
millions a years. Things in Singapore are also the most expensive
in the world, a new 1,600cc Japanese sedan car is US$70,000 on
the road, a 1,000 sq.ft public house (99-year lease, high rise) is
US$250,000 and unlimited Internet access is about US$120 a month.
Well, Singapore is definitely not for the poor... sad.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 5 of 27: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (09:38) * 5 lines
But are wages correspondingly high?
Ted, would you mind creating a Singapore topic in our
travel conference and invite some of your fellow Singaporeans (?)
to join it?
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 6 of 27: Ted Chong (tedchong) * Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (18:35) * 8 lines
Wages for most people are not high, still lag behind Hongkong, US and
Japan. Average computer engineer with 3 years experience earns about
$35000 a year.
Okay I will create a Singapore tropic in the travel tropic soon.
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Response 7 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (17:09) * 1 lines
Did he? I use NewsAgent. Very good with a jillion options for subscription - a lot of which you would not want your mother to know about - or your children!
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 8 of 27: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (19:51) * 5 lines
I use tin, which we have on our system. Ted Chong uses the spring for
newsgroups only and is the master of tin. tedchong@spring.net can tell
you about our newsgroup server, which is really ddc's.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 9 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (20:44) * 1 lines
Thanks...I shall contact him at the first chance and see what he thinks. I appreciate your answering my cry in the wilderness for advice.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 10 of 27: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (04:28) * 3 lines
dejanews.com is now deja.com I believe.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 11 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (11:55) * 1 lines
I have noticed that most of the users use dejanews though I have the one I do because it was the one my son uses...are they all more or less the same?
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 12 of 27: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (10:16) * 3 lines
Pretty much. Stroud has a bunch of newsgroup readers on his site.
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Response 13 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Nov 5, 1999 (15:12) * 1 lines
I noticed. They borrow freely one from another, it appears!
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Response 14 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 13, 2000 (00:32) * 1 lines
Since ddc is no more for Spring (amen!) who is the official newsgroup now?
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 15 of 27: (sprin5) * Sun, Feb 13, 2000 (08:09) * 1 lines
Good question. I'm not even sure if the new location has newsgroups. Ted would be able to tell you if there other free newsgroup servers out there, there must be umpteen of them. Maybe you could do a net search on free newsgroup servers and let us know what it turns up, perhaps?
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 16 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 13, 2000 (13:28) * 1 lines
I shall do that for you. Did the one I use cost me? I don't remember. I'll certainly check ASAP.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 17 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 13, 2000 (19:49) * 7 lines
http://www.freenntp.com/ has lots of things free, including his own stuff. It is also part of the Public News Servers Web Ring.
http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=nntp;list lists the sites on this ring. There are lots of them there suggesting that it might be easier for those involved in actually choosing this item to check it out, whereas if I do it, you are going to have to take my word for it, or something. Not sure you want to do that!
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 18 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 13, 2000 (19:54) * 10 lines
http://serverwatch.internet.com/newsservers.html has a list of free news servers none of which I have ever heard of (no big thing, that!) and download links to them as well as to Outlook, Agent, and Express.
This list of server links:
Cassandra
DNEWS News Server
INN News Server
NetRoad NewsServer
Netscape Collabra Server
NewsChannel
Newstand
nDaemon
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 19 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 15, 2000 (22:34) * 4 lines
If I bother to go through all of the news servers and write the pros and cons and present them here, will that benefit anyone
other than me? Will anyone be interested in what there is out there? I make new topics and post interesting things all over
Spring, but maybe they are only interesting to me, Alexander said. So, if I am using up this conference space with all of the
free news servers and you don't need that, please advise. It would be nice to talk to someone other than to myself.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 20 of 27: (sprin5) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (06:50) * 1 lines
Do some of these carry austin.general and austin.forsale?
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 21 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (11:55) * 4 lines
Let me check and get back to you. I am loading Agent at the moment; then i will check through the urls above to hunt for others which might. I also have access to usenet through telnet on Hawaii on Line. I'll also check there for you. I am always happy to be of help
On Agent I found 16 with Austin in the title. austin.food, austin.forsale, austin.jobs, and austin.general among them.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 22 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (14:05) * 19 lines
These are the ones I found on Usenet on Hawaii-on-Line
N 11 K austin.announce ??? (Moderated)
N 11 K austin.autos Care and (mis)use of automobi
N 11 K austin.flame Flamefesting followup for Aus
N 11 K austin.food Eating, cooking, and culinary
N 11 K austin.forsale Items for sale in Austin, TX.
N 11 K austin.gardening Austin and USDA Zone 8 garden
N 11 K austin.general Items of general interest in
N 11 K austin.internet Discussion of Internet issues
N 11 K austin.jobs Jobs available, wanted, and d
N 11 K austin.music Music around Austin, TX.
N 11 K austin.org.sca The Society for Creative Anac
N 11 K austin.politics Political issues in Austin, T
N 11 K austin.talk Talk in Austin, TX.
N 11 K austin.test Usenet testing in Austin, TX.
N 11 K austin.usenet.config No description.
N 11 K austin.usenet.stats No description.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 23 of 27: (sprin5) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (17:42) * 1 lines
Those are the good ones.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 24 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (17:56) * 1 lines
It appears that most of the big newsgroups have those Austin topics. It just takes forever to get through the alt.binary stuff (talk about educational?!)to get to them.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 25 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 16, 2000 (23:19) * 1 lines
Shall I check out specific places to download these Free newsgroups using the Austin criteria as a gauge of worthiness for Spring? Or, is there something else you would rather have me doing?
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 26 of 27: (sprin5) * Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (07:22) * 1 lines
Maybe post some pointers to the spring on some newsgroups, subtly of course.
Topic 16 of 40 [internet]: newsgroups
Response 27 of 27: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 18, 2000 (12:19) * 2 lines
Hmmm...Of course, Subtly. To http://tvnight.org or to /public/main?
Next is to wade through 30,000+ groups to see which ones might attract the right sort of people...A daunting job at best! I'll do it!
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