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Topic 51 of 69: Harry Potter

Thu, Nov 8, 2001 (20:21) | Wolfie Bert (wolf)
ok, what's the big deal with this phenom?
37 responses total.

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 Response 1 of 37: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Nov  9, 2001 (07:56) * 2 lines 
 
Don't know. I have to admit I haven
't read any of the books. Have you?


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 Response 2 of 37: Charlotte  (Charlotte) * Fri, Nov  9, 2001 (10:56) * 1 lines 
 
I have read all the books. They are captivating. The phenom is that they can magically appeal to both children AND adults, without pandering to either. The characters are vividly drawn and while the setting is a fantasy realm, the situations are those that most people can relate to (bullies in school, winning the big game, studying for exams, etc.). I was skeptical, too. All you need do is read the first book. Or even the first chapter of the first book.


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 Response 3 of 37: Wolfie Bert  (wolf) * Fri, Nov  9, 2001 (17:22) * 1 lines 
 
i haven't read any of it yet.


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 Response 4 of 37: Wolfie Bert  (wolf) * Fri, Nov  9, 2001 (17:33) * 1 lines 
 
did i mention the sister topic in books?


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 Response 5 of 37: Karen Rosenberg  (KarenR) * Sun, Nov 11, 2001 (09:12) * 3 lines 
 
The movie was reviewed last night on Ebert & Roeper and they gave it a huge endorsement. What struck me particularly about their comments was Roeper (I think) saying it was the "Wizard of Oz" of our times and Ebert agreeing (or the other way around) and that it succeeded mainly because of two things: (1) being totally faithful to the book and (2) the child actors.

Makes me wonder how many more book adaptations would fare better if they were "faithful" to their books. ;-)


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 Response 6 of 37: Evelyn Boake  (lafn) * Sun, Nov 11, 2001 (12:11) * 4 lines 
 
(Karen)Makes me wonder how many more book adaptations would fare better if they were "faithful" to their books. ;-)
In HP's case, it was at the insistence of the author, JK Rowling...ie part of the contract.
In fact she had held off signing a film contract until Warner Bros consented to her wishes.
I suppose any author could do the same.


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 Response 7 of 37: Donna DL  (fitzwd) * Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (13:38) * 2 lines 
 
London Times reviewer didn't care for the film. "Fans will be delighted to see a living, breathing, walking, talking, flying Harry on the big screen, and without suffering Americanisations or new characters or preposterous warping of the plot. It’s all there from the page. But it’s what’s not there that makes me pause." Will wait for someone to translate Americanisations for me.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,9013-2001392761,00.html


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 Response 8 of 37: Charlotte  (Charlotte) * Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (18:55) * 1 lines 
 
"what's not there". I guess the reviewer would have preferred a 7-hour film.


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 Response 9 of 37: Karen  (KarenR) * Sat, Nov 17, 2001 (08:22) * 0 lines 
 


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 Response 10 of 37: Karen  (KarenR) * Sat, Nov 17, 2001 (08:24) * 9 lines 
 
Comment originally posted by Andie

(Evelyn)Know who you mean....last name "Black"?
Spot on! You can read my mind.

(Evelyn)That picture...yup, he's audtioning for Sirius Black
Oh, how I wish!!
But Jeremy Irons?? Isn't he a bit, er, too old for the part? Remember seeing him in Brideshead Revisted years n years ago (was admiring Aloysius, Anthony Andrew's teddy bear). Besides, Sirius has been described as 'handsome' in his pre-prison days. Can't see how JI will fit in. Hope he doesn't get his way...he'll be better off playing Barty Crouch (sorry if I sound too mean, in
case there are any JI fans around)


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 Response 11 of 37: Evelyn Boake  (lafn) * Sat, Nov 17, 2001 (09:04) * 5 lines 
 
(Donna)Will wait for someone to translate Americanisations
for me.

Me too. I read that the Director,took great pains to make sure the script sounded British.
Oh well, I knew the London Times would trash HP for something.
Have my tickets for Monday:-))


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 Response 12 of 37: Evelyn Boake  (lafn) * Sat, Nov 17, 2001 (13:47) * 27 lines 
 
In the "You Can't Win Dept":

NY Times doesn't like it either.LOL. Says the film followed the book too closely!!

"The most highly awaited movie of the
year has a dreary, literal-minded competence, following the
letter of the law as laid down by the author. The movie
comes across as a covers act by an extremely competent
tribute band -- not the real thing but an incredible
simulation -- and there's an audience for this sort of
thing. But watching 'Harry Potter' is like seeing
'Beatlemania' staged in the Hollywood Bowl, where the cheers
and screams will drown out whatever's unfolding onstage.

"A lack of imagination pervades the movie," says Mitchell,
"because it so slavishly follows the book. The filmmakers,
the producers and the studio seem panicked by anything that
might feel like a departure from the book -- which already
feels film-ready -- so 'Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's
Stone' never takes on a life of its own. Someone has cast a
sleepwalker's spell over the proceedings, and at nearly two
and a half hours you may go under, too."

http://nyt.com/2001/11/16/movies/16POTT.html?rd=hcmcp?p=041VMi041VNd3N5s012000mZiKjZgfh

Other cheap shots.
"At a time when London is filled with faces of color, the fleeting appearances by minority kids is scarier than Voldemort. (Harry's gorgeous owl, snow white with sunken dark eyes and feather tails dappled with black, gets more screen time than they do.) "


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 Response 13 of 37: Mari Fulginiti  (mari) * Sat, Nov 17, 2001 (20:11) * 1 lines 
 
I saw HP today and liked it very much. It really does transport you into Harry's world. The Hogwarts sets are fabulous, very much like the way you see them in your mind from the books. The chess match was especially good. The humor is definitely intact, with the early scenes at the Dursleys a real hoot. I thought the kids were very good, especially the two boys; it's their movie all the way. I did think it was a bit too long; it dragged a bit about 2/3 of the way through, but the kids in the audience didn't seem to mind. BTW, Alan Rickman looks like Adam Sandler's Operaman character with that black pageboy wig.


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 Response 14 of 37: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Nov 17, 2001 (20:59) * 1 lines 
 
I came late to Lord of the Rings. Now, my new daughter-in-law adores Harry Potter. Guess I will come late to him, too. Books first, as always. If I love them too much I don't dare see the movie. I was one of the few who absolutely hated Ben Hur.


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 Response 15 of 37: Mari Fulginiti  (mari) * Sun, Nov 18, 2001 (14:13) * 32 lines 
 
By Dean Goodman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - All hail Harry!

``Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone,'' a hugely hyped fantasy about an English boy wizard, bewitched moviegoers of all ages in North America and Britain over the weekend, smashing industry records in the process.

According to studio estimates issued on Sunday, the film grossed $93.5 million in the United States and Canada in its first three days of release. It surpassed the three-day record of $72.1 million set four years ago by Steven Spielberg's ``The Lost World: Jurassic Park.''

In Britain, where it also opened on Friday and is called ''Harry Potter (news - web sites) and the Philosopher's Stone,'' the film conjured up $23 million (including previews), beating the record of $14.7 million attained by George Lucas' ``Star Wars: Episode I -- The Phantom Menace'' in 1999.

``To be up there with Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, what an honor,'' said ``Harry Potter'' producer David Heyman, adding that he was smiling from ``ear to ear.'' Based on the best-selling children's books by English author J.K. Rowling (news - web sites), ``Harry Potter'' follows the exploits of a bespectacled orphan with magical powers who attends the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. Newcomer Daniel Radcliffe played the title character.

The box office data were provided by executives at Warner Bros. Pictures, a unit of AOL Time Warner Inc. . Rival studios said the North American estimate appeared generous, with their own tallies averaging about $89 million. One studio reportedly put the opening as low as $83 million. Final figures will be released on Monday.

Either way, the film dominated the box office. Walt Disney Co.'s animated ``Monsters, Inc.'' slipped to No. 2 with $23.0 million, followed by Twentieth Century Fox comedy ``Shallow Hal'' with $12.7 million. The top 12 films grossed $157.1 million, up 35 percent from last weekend and up seven percent from the year-ago period, when ``Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas'' opened at No. 1.

HARRY A ``WIN-WIN''

``Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone,'' which reportedly cost Warner Bros. $125 million to produce and an additional $40 million to market in North America alone, played on more than 8,200 screens at a record 3,672 theaters.

Warner Bros. distribution president Dan Fellman said exit polls were ``spectacular'' and the film played broadly to both parents and children, readers and nonreaders.

``It's just a win-win all the way around for us,'' Fellman said.

The film's Saturday haul of $32.9 million becomes the highest single-day gross in movie history, beating the opening day of ``Phantom Menace'' ($28.5 million). Its respective Friday and Sunday tallies of $31.6 million and $29 million also set new records for those particular days.

The only major record that hangs in the balance is the race to $100 million. ``Phantom Menace'' took five days, and Fellman hoped ``Harry Potter'' could get there on Monday, in four days. He expected business to remain very strong over the week, boosted by the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday on Thursday.

Heyman said principal photography on the sequel, ``Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets,'' will begin on Monday. Director Chris Columbus will return to shoot the film.

Warner Bros. hopes that Harry Potter will become a huge franchise along the lines of the ``Star Wars'' and James Bond films, and its corporate parent is using the muscle of its other businesses, such as its America Online flagship, to get the word out.



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 Response 16 of 37: Evelyn Boake  (lafn) * Tue, Nov 20, 2001 (10:00) * 2 lines 
 
No adult should be allowed to review HP. It is written and filmed for a child's mindset, IMO. I saw it yesterday and yes part of it lagged . But I had two little people with me who sat transfixed for the whole time.
One commented as the credits roled.."I wish the second one was starting right now."


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 Response 17 of 37: Karen  (KarenR) * Tue, Nov 20, 2001 (10:04) * 1 lines 
 
But they are saying it is equally entertaining for adults. Will let you know how I like it once the timeframe is over when the studios get like 100% of the receipts and the poor, near-bankrupt theatre owners get a crumb. Sorry, but I'm not going to support WB's slash-and-burn rollout this time around.


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 Response 18 of 37: Moon Dreams  (Moon) * Tue, Nov 20, 2001 (17:30) * 3 lines 
 
You have a good point, Karen.

I liked it, but found it very slow at times. The kids were great!


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 Response 19 of 37: MarianneC  (MarianneC) * Tue, Oct 29, 2002 (12:29) * 11 lines 
 
I can see no one's posted in close to a year ... but I just had to get on the HP bandwagon and let you know that DR, RG & EW will on today's Oprah (saw the wildfeed). Here are the highlights:
1) Introduction, a CoS viewing party, CoS trailer (the 2nd year) and the dueling scene, followed by Oprah introducing Daniel Radcliffe
2) Clip of the Harry & Ron in the flying Ford Anglia, reviews from the CoS viewing party, DR's comments that he "loved the dueling scene," very brief shots of the spiders, Lockhart & Dobby, and clip of Lockhart trying to repair Harry's broken arm (the special effects have greatly improved!)
3) Introduction of Rupert Grint and Emma Watson, clips of the Whomping Willow, Eat Slugs!, and Dobby (Oprah loves Dobby)
4) Clip of Harry and Dobby, special guest Matty (sorry can't remember his surname) who is presented with an invitation to Hogwarts and a wand by Daniel (can I just say, that DR is such a sweetie ... polite, courteous, and his parents are doing a wonderful job in raising him)
5) Clip of the Rogue Bludger scene
6) skip ... preview for the next Oprah show
7) Clips of the Cornish pixies and drinking the polyjuice potion, and brief interview with David Heyman (in the audience) about meeting DR and how he got the role
8) Oprah thanking the guests and audience and to check out the follow-up on the Oxygen network (which I unfortunately, do not get)




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 Response 20 of 37: Sam Blob  (AlFor) * Tue, Oct 29, 2002 (17:47) * 1 lines 
 
First "Harry Potter", then "The Fellowship Of The Ring"... Wake me up when they bring out the movie version of "The Chronicles of Narnia Part 1: The Magician's Nephew".


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 Response 21 of 37: MarianneC  (MarianneC) * Sun, Nov 17, 2002 (19:47) * 11 lines 
 
This is not a review (well sort of) of the CoS … just wanted to mention that I attended the BAFTA/LA screening of HP & CoS, and spoke to the film’s producer, David Heyman, about the film and the upcoming PoA:

What were they thinking when they had Lucius begin to say Avada to Harry or Dobby (take your pick). My reading of Lucius just wouldn’t do that, he’s too conscientious of how it would look, after all didn’t he chastise Draco for not being prudent about his jealousy of Harry, and that they’re at Hogwarts w/ Dumbledore nearby.
DH: Dumbledore is not there to witness it, and JKR okayed it.

I very politely asked if Remus Lupin & Sirius Black had been cast yet … no, according to him. I then asked if I could suggest 2 actors that I have in mind for the roles: JN for Sirius & CF for Lupin. Fortunately, he didn’t ask who they were & what they’ve done before … oh and I heard some sighs when I mentioned both their names.

Lastly, I asked him if Christian Coulson (Tom Riddle) is as handsome in real life as he is in the film. Yes, very.

One other thing, DH asked what my name was a couple of times, so I may find myself banned from future BAFTA screenings, and/or he’ll be informing JI, JN, CF & CC to watch out for this crazed fan.



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 Response 22 of 37: moonstar  (moonstar) * Tue, Nov 19, 2002 (16:17) * 23 lines 
 
Marianne, thanks for putting in a good word for JN & CF for PoA. I had heard that CF had been mentioned as a casting possibility for Ludo Bagman on some fan sites, and I was not pleased. I mean, really, does CF look like a Beater who has gone to seed? I think not :)

I don't know if we are supposed to be posting any reviews or whatnot here, but I will give my likes & dislikes of the film:

The good:
--Production design--Wow! The production designer (whose name unfortunately escapes me right now) really did a fantastic job. They took everything from SS and used that as a base, adding layer upon layer of detail. The new stuff was fantastic, as well; I especially liked the Burrow.
--Daniel Radcliffe--has greatly improved; not nearly as wooden as he was in the first film
--Quidditch--a vast improvement from the first film; not nearly as video game looking
--Dobby--the anti-Jar Jar
--The special effects in general were greatly improved from the first film; I believe that I had heard that CC had given the effects people more time to complete their work, and it really showed.

The Bad:
--The ending--sheesh, how schmaltzy can you get?! Ugh! Why were the students fawning all over Hagrid? He was stuck in Azkaban for most of the movie!
--Lucius Malfoy's thwarted AK spell--This made no sense whatsoever! They are at Hogwart's, practically right outside Dumbledore's office, and LM tries to kill Harry? No, no, no, no.
--Turning Ron into nothing more than comic relief--very vexing; even stole some of his good lines to give to Hermione
--Mrs. Weasley--what happened with Julie Waters? She's done good work (Billy Elliot comes to mind), but seemed to be overacting terribly.

The Odd:
--When Draco & Harry are under the stands during the Quidditch game, going round & round, why did it sound just like the pod race from Star Wars, Episode 1?
--Did anyone else get a very brother/sister vibe from Harry & Hermione? I did, and I hope they aren't going there; it would be very Star Wars (again) of them
--This was the strangest, but the dh saw it too: I got the distinct impression at one point that Draco has a thing for Hermione. I never once got this from the books, so this might be something unintended. Or, it might just be me & the dh seeing this, though; we can be a little strange at times :)

Well, those are just a few things off the top of my head. Hope this thread picks up a bit...


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 Response 23 of 37: MarianneC  (MarianneC) * Tue, Nov 19, 2002 (23:17) * 7 lines 
 
moonstar: Did anyone else get a very brother/sister vibe from Harry & Hermione?
No.
This was the strangest, but the dh saw it too: I got the distinct impression at one point that Draco has a thing for Hermione.
I saw it too.

I haven't quite made up my mind on who I want Hermione to end up with. I could see her w/ Harry (they need each other) ... and I could also see her Draco (opposites attract, and I want him to be redeemed).



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 Response 24 of 37: Dorine  (gomezdo) * Tue, Nov 19, 2002 (23:34) * 6 lines 
 
(Marianne) I could also see her Draco (opposites attract)
Noticed that a flash of interest in her, too, despite the insults. This scenario would be more interesting. Very Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Spike it would be.

(Moonstar) Did anyone else get a very brother/sister vibe from Harry & Hermione?
Not at all.



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 Response 25 of 37: moonstar  (moonstar) * Wed, Nov 20, 2002 (07:51) * 1 lines 
 
LOL! I thought the sibling-esque relationship that I saw was obvious, & the Draco/Hermione thing was something that only my convoluted mind could see. Oh well, that shows how messed up I am :)


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 Response 26 of 37: Karen  (KarenR) * Thu, Dec 12, 2002 (13:41) * 10 lines 
 
Ada's message moved

Response 319 of 319: AdaVW (shdwmoon) * Thu, Dec 12, 2002 (14:24)

This probably belongs on the Harry Potter conference but I saw this and wanted to let you all know.

On the official HP website, in their dialogue center,(lots of young kids posting) they were nominating people for certain roles in the next movie..anyway, someone nominated ODB for Sirius Black. That wasn't so important as the answer back to that, which was; "Colin Firth's too CHUBBY for the role of Sirius Black"! It struck me as hilarious, especially with some of us saying that
he was looking too skinny and gaunt in the WAGW trailer, so I just had to share.

But if anyone wants to ask about casting for the next HP movie, I did get an address to request for information. If anyone wants it, just let me know.


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 Response 27 of 37: MarianneC  (MarianneC) * Sun, Sep  7, 2003 (01:20) * 5 lines 
 
Just testing ...

CoS NY Premiere




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 Response 28 of 37: MarianneC  (MarianneC) * Mon, Sep  8, 2003 (00:09) * 7 lines 
 
still testing ... from TLC

Draco

HermioneMalfoy




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testing






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 Response 32 of 37: MarianneC  (MarianneC) * Wed, Sep 24, 2003 (16:43) * 2 lines 
 
TF-UK site



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 Response 33 of 37: Sam Blob  (AlFor) * Sat, Sep 27, 2003 (15:54) * 5 lines 
 
Dear JK Rowling:

Perhaps you could introduce a new character into Hogwarts? Tim of Auuuggh, second-generation Hogwarts student and distant descentant of the Tim the Sorcerer of Auuuggh who assisted King Arthur in his quest for the Holy Grail...

The descendants of the ancient, fabled Tim the Sorcerer of Auuuggh would have a special dispensation to have a rabbit instead of an owl, a cat or a toad.


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 Response 34 of 37: MarianneC  (MarianneC) * Thu, Oct  9, 2003 (23:54) * 2 lines 
 
http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif



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 Response 36 of 37: Wolfie Bert  (wolf) * Fri, Oct 10, 2003 (19:43) * 1 lines 
 
luv that smiley, marianne!


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