Topic 28 of 100: greatest drummer of all time
Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (12:16) |
Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
Who's the greatest drummer of all time? Ringo? Keltner? or? or?
35 responses total.
Topic 28 of 100 [music]: greatest drummer of all time
Response 1 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (12:18) * 8 lines
Some names come to mind. Mick Fleetwood. Mickey Hart.
Ringo Starr. The above mentioned Jim Keltner. Who was
the drummer for Ginger Baker and Traffic?
What about Mike Shrieve. Damn, this is interesting and
challenging to figure out.
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Response 2 of 35: jonathan ovalle (drummerboy) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (19:47) * 2 lines
I think it is very difficult to choose ONE drummer who is absolutely the best simply because it is very difficult to compare drummers in different styles. I think if your comparing what kind of historical impact a drummer made on the music he/she played, you can more accurately assess who is at the top. As an example, it is very difficult to compare Ringo Starr to Elvin Jones to someone like Dave Weckl or Steve Gadd. They are all completely different drummers. In my opinion Ringo Starr can even carry Elvi
's stick bag, but he has a place in history too. It's hard to single out one who is the best, though we can choose our "favorites".
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Response 3 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (20:01) * 1 lines
What groups did Elvin Jones play with?
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Response 4 of 35: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (01:36) * 2 lines
Traffic's drummer was Jim Capaldi. Ginger drummed for Cream, of course- whom else, I don't know (but he and Jack Bruce are playing together again- reconstituted Cream, sans Eric- and from what I've heard on the radio, they sound terrific. Bruce's voice hasn't changed a bit). Don't know much about the technical aspects of music, but as a fan, my favorite drummer would have to be Keith Moon. Would think John Bonham merits mention, as well.
Ringo was a great personality, and served the Beatles well. Only proficient, it is my understanding, as a drummer, though (McCartney was actually known to overdub Ringo's drum playing, from time to time. Ever the perfectionist, he was actually a better drummer than Ringo).
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Response 5 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (11:27) * 3 lines
McCartney is a good drummer, wow. I knew that sometimes he play many
many instruments on his albums.
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Response 6 of 35: Reid Harward (soundscape) * Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (11:06) * 2 lines
Ravi Shankar is pretty good on the tabla.
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Response 7 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (11:08) * 2 lines
Pretty good? He's awesome.
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Response 8 of 35: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (12:48) * 1 lines
Woo Woo! One I know and one I agree with!
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Response 9 of 35: Karl Stippick (Smiling) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (16:29) * 4 lines
Rock and Roll drummer?
Mitch Mitchell from The Jimi Hendrix Experience gets my vote. Followed closely by Keith Moon of the Who. Both were explosive and completely capable of playing lead especially Mitchell. Give a listen to "Fire" someday. Hendrix wakes up every few measures to hit a guitar lick and everything else is Mitch... *smile*
Karl
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Response 10 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (22:17) * 6 lines
I can hardly argue with these two. I'll have to put a mention
in for Bill Kruetzman and Mickey Hart of the Grateful Dead.
Mickey wrote a great book on drumming around the world.
Anyone know of drummers webs sites that are worthwhile?
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Response 11 of 35: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (23:34) * 2 lines
Can't believe I forgot Mitch Mitchell- and you're right, I was listening to "Fire" just the other day, and he was electrifying...If I remember correctly, he was replaced by Buddy Guy (sort of a mediocre talent, in comparison)- do you have any idea why? Have a hazy (purple, of course) recollection of Mitchell dying...
Don't know, as I said, enough about the technical aspects of music to discern if Mitchell was a greater drummer than Moon- but you have to admit that if you needed a great drummer AND someone to destroy a hotel room, Keith would have to be your guy...
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Response 12 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (10:55) * 2 lines
What do y'all think of Santana's drummer?
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Response 13 of 35: Karl Stippick (Smiling) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (10:57) * 3 lines
I read or heard that Mitch Mitchell and Noel Redding found out they had been "replaced" from someone in the press. UGH! I don't know if Mitchell is still alive or not...
As for Moon.... Hehehe what an animal! Pete Townsend gives him much credit for making the Who the band they were. He says he would be playing and of a sudden, things would just explode behind him. Keith Moon banging away like B52 dropping bombs.
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Response 14 of 35: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (12:15) * 2 lines
Really blows (what happened to Mitch Williams)- and hard to believe Jimi would go along with something like that...
Santana's drummer was the guy you mentioned before, Mike Shrieve, right? Have to rewatch their Woodstock set, because I don't remember him, though he must have been excellant (to drum for Carlos)...
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Response 15 of 35: Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (13:11) * 5 lines
Mitch Mitchell was not replaced. The Experience broke up and Jimi Hendrix formed a new band called the Band Of Gypsys with Billy Cox on bass and Buddy Miles (writer & original performer of "Them Changes") on drums.
Band of Gypsys didn't last too long, and the next group was the new Experience, or, as I call it, the Gypsy Experience, since it had Billy Cox on bass and Mitch Mitchell on drums. That's how thw band was when Jimi died.
And forget "Fire". You want the greatness of Mitch? Listen to "Manic Depression"!
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Response 16 of 35: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (09:17) * 1 lines
A couple of years ago I went to a Billy Joel concert - the guy who played drums was excellent. What is his name?
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Response 17 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (09:59) * 2 lines
Hmmm, no idea.
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Response 18 of 35: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (10:44) * 1 lines
A question to which you have no answer? How amazing - and reassuring.
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Response 19 of 35: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (16:49) * 2 lines
The greatest drummer of all time, of all time, is Reni from the Stone Roses. he really is the best, I promise you, the absolute most talented, skilful, rhythmical drummer ever ever ever. i've never heard anything like it.
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Response 20 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (17:04) * 2 lines
Examples?
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Response 21 of 35: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (17:06) * 2 lines
anything off of the first Stone Roses album. Umm..anything off of the second Stone Roses album. if you have a good record store anywhere near you, you *owe* it to yourselves to go out and buy a copy of either, preferably both, albums. They're called "Stone Roses" (first album) and "Second Coming" (second album). the first album is the the best album i own, and the best i ever will own. it is the only collection of music that i have heard for the first time and instantly loved all of it. nothing, not
even any of the beethoven which i own, comes close. it is, quite simply, god's perfect music.
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Response 22 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (23:40) * 1 lines
What year were these released?
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Response 23 of 35: Riette Walton (riette) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (00:51) * 1 lines
Do they sing rock music, or what? Because I don't listen to heavy metal - gives me a headache.
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Response 24 of 35: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (04:03) * 3 lines
the first album is the most perfect form of pop music ever ever produced, and coming from me that's some compliment, since I'm the most hyper-critical of all musicians anywhere ever. the second album is a lot more funky, and takes more getting in to than the first, but it's still very good.
the first album was released in 1989, by Silvertone Records, and the second in 1994 on Geffen Records (part of MCA). Track them down...maybe at www.musicboulevard.com (i think that's the url)
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Response 25 of 35: Riette Walton (riette) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (05:07) * 1 lines
I'll go have a look in Jecklin.
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Response 26 of 35: Bobby Laman (Bobster911) * Sat, Jun 16, 2001 (23:08) * 2 lines
Some of the responses have been good so far, but some have been from obvious non-drummers. For one thing, Ringo Starr is a terrible drummer in retrospect. There are many great rock drummers that have been mentioned but I am blown away by the lack of jazz drummers mentioned so far, except the 2nd response that mentioned Elvin Jones (Coltrane and McCoy Tyner's drummer), Dave Weckl and Steve Gadd. In response to the question about Billy Joel's drummer, it is Liberty Devita. My top 2 drummers would have to be Tony Williams, known best for his work with Miles Davis in the 60's. Probably the most inovative, musical drummer who ever lived. He is the drummer's drummer, ask any great musician. Jack DeJohnette is also the cream of the crop, starting with Miles and going on to do great work with Herbie Hancock, Pat Metheny, etc. His musicality is strongly influenced by Tony Williams and he has the best technique of any drummer I've heard (even better than Dennis Chambers) Some other greats I think are Elvin J
nes, Roy Haynes, Buddy Rich, Carter Beauford, Alex Acuna, and John Bonham, whom no rock fans have mentioned yet. I was dissapointed by the list so far but hopefully some of the names I have brought to light will stimulate some new comments on the truly great drummers of our time
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Response 27 of 35: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 17, 2001 (01:03) * 1 lines
I think Rock ha s not encouraged the fine art of drumming. But, let me ask my buddy who is up on these things for his list. Will see what John Burnett thinks . He is pretty knowledgable and does this sort of thing for a living. brb as soon as John responds to your comments. Welcome and Aloha!
Topic 28 of 100 [music]: greatest drummer of all time
Response 28 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jun 17, 2001 (10:17) * 1 lines
Who was the drummer on the Wings bands of the 70s, Bobby (or maybe that should be plural) and how do you rate him? What about Fleetwood Mac's drumming? I'lll put your comments on a poster and put it up on all the bulletin boards around time and see if we get any response from teh music community, if that's ok with you. Brilliant insights, you know drumming! Are you a drummer yourself?
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Response 29 of 35: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 17, 2001 (16:23) * 6 lines
With his persmission in a very hectic writing and promoting schedual, John offers the following:
John Burnett (Mr. Chips)
Hey Bobster: Every one of those drummers you have named are worthy and I wouldn't argue about them. I would add a few names to your list: Airto Moreira, Max Roach, and three guys who played drums in Doc Severinsen's Tonight Show band: Louis Bellson (who was married to Pearl Bailey), Ed Shaughnessy and Bobby Rosengarden. Among more contemporary jazz guys, DeJohnette is king, but there are some princes out there, such as Gadd, Harvey Mason and former Seawind drummer/composer Bob Wilson, now leader of the CA Christian Band. Multi-instrumentalist Daniel Ho (formerly of Kilauea) is better known as a keyboard player, but he was a drummer first and is fabulous. As far as rock drummers and percussionists go "Bonzo" Bonham was a great pick. Carl Palmer (Emerson Lake & Palmer) immediately comes to mind, as does "Mr. E.," Pete Escobido (Sheila E's dad) and Anton Figg of Paul Shaffer's band on David Letterman. Reggae drummer Sly Dunbar, who played with Bob Marley and countless others, also has incredible technique and
oul, as well.
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Response 30 of 35: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 17, 2001 (19:47) * 3 lines
Terry, John responded to your reply:
I think the drummer Terry was thinking for with Wings was Denny Seiwell, a fine pop and rock drummer. Mick Fleetwood is an excellent drummer. Although Fleetwood Mac put out better music in their blues phase than before they became pop megamonsters, you can hear just how good a drummer Mick is in the song "Second Hand News." That's not a song that singer-guitarist Lindsey Buckingham could have slogged through with a mediocre drummer. Also, the band arrangement and especially the drums charts he came up with for the USC marching band with "Tusk," was first-rate.
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Response 31 of 35: Dorian Orsted (dorian19) * Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (00:27) * 1 lines
The best drummer of all time is Neil Peart from the band RUSH. He is definately worth checking out if you haven't already. A few years back the band put out an album with a track called "Drum Solo". This was a 4 minute track of Neil playing the drums as well as a variety of other percussion instruments that surrounded him. Neil is one of the rare drummers that can carry a band. Rush is good in there own right, but Neil definately could have gone on to bigger and better things. Check him out.
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Response 32 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Sep 17, 2001 (06:46) * 1 lines
I will. Thanks for the pointer.
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Response 33 of 35: Sam Blob (AlFor) * Sun, Apr 14, 2002 (10:43) * 5 lines
My three choices for great rock drummers (know little about jazz, etc. ...):
#3 - Roger Taylor (Queen)
#2 - Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Experience)
#1 - John Bonham (Led Zeppelin)
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Response 34 of 35: Steve Gill (Bonzo75) * Sat, May 18, 2002 (23:30) * 1 lines
I think the Best drummers, Being One Myself, Are #3 Neil Peart(Rush), #2 Buddy Rich, #1 John Bonham(Zeppelin). I was wondering if someone could help me. I was wondering who the drummer from Santana Was when they played Woodstock. I got F-ed One night and seen Soul Sacrifice, And nobody knows who he Is.
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Response 35 of 35: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May 19, 2002 (05:49) * 1 lines
I'd have to see a picture of the drummer. What did he look like Steve?
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