Topic 67 of 100: Record Collecting
Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (13:28) |
Alexander Schuth (aschuth)
Some people say "8 track",
and some might say "huh?
Some might say vinyls,
and some do say "duh".
What are you after?
Recorded fake laughter,
on shellac or wax,
or other knick knacks?
- Alexander Schuth, late 20th Century.-
126 responses total.
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Response 1 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (17:18) * 1 lines
you oughta sneak on over to poetry! thanks for stopping by.....
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Response 2 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Mar 1, 1999 (14:04) * 2 lines
Well, Wolf,
jus hadda acute strain of show-off in me. Anyway, DO YOU collect records? What periods/labels/artists or styles? See my comment in musics introduction-topic; I go for 78s a long way. There's really good fun in there...
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Response 3 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 1, 1999 (14:14) * 1 lines
not sure I've even seen a 78...
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Response 4 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Mon, Mar 1, 1999 (17:48) * 1 lines
the lp's that i have are from my childhood. don't own a phonograph so can't listen to them. i don't collect them in any sense even though i have a box full!
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Response 5 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar 1, 1999 (21:59) * 1 lines
my parents have some 78's...
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Response 6 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Mar 2, 1999 (12:48) * 10 lines
Yo, Kitchen, you happy happy cat! I hope they are good ones, too - what are they? People, realise that 78s were made into the 1960ies (up to then, every Elvis-single was released on vinyl- 45s (aka 7'') as well as 78s (10'' size). And earliest are from 1880ies - so you can find quite some variety here!
Two days ago, I found some american WWII-troop-entertainment-records here in a small antiques shop in Germany. Great swing, folks! Really hot jazzy things, plus a white-labelled beauty with inkwriting on it announcing a song called "Schicklegrüber". Ok, it's been misspelled, but they were making big time fun of Hitler! What a song!
Wolf, you don't need a phonograph for your vinyls! Phonographs are for wax cylinders (genuine vintage Edison-tech!!), LPs are played on record players. And! lotsa very fine music has never been released on CD. Ever thought about that? But then, maybe not everybody has this virus... Just let me say, some people like to play a Les Paul (famous guitar by Gibson), I like to listen to Les Paul (famous guitar player, of whom I got some 78s). Wolf, next time you happen to stand around bored on a fleamarket (wel
, you can't really get bored on fleamarkets, but still...) - next time, check some old vinyl. Maybe you find a very fine soul record of the sixties? Let's say, Joe Tex. Or old country-stuff. Take it home, ask around where to listen to it. Do it.
Stacey, 78s are basically like vinyl records, because they are the medium vinyls derived from. The material (shellac) is very brittle, so they break easy and chip on the edges (that's why pre-war gramophone cabinets could be locked, so nobody - kids or servants - could play music and accidentally break 'em!). They don't play at 33 1/3 rpm like LPs or 45 rpm like Singles (which were introduced around 1949, I think), but at - tadah! - 78 rpm. Try to read the label while playing one, and you're big time dizz
soon (no hangover, though!). Oh, and they are mono, as were all records before late 1950ies. These are the media our grandparents and parents grew up with, listening to Bing Crosby or Louis Armstrong, or other things. Of course, there's always some noise from scratches and the like, sound is not as crystal clear as on a CD. But that's not what I'm after - I want this musical heritage we're denied because of switches in media!
Enough for today. If you still bear with me, I'll all call you to arms and rebellion against the media conspiracy tomorrow! I hope by that time I come up with a cool idea on what I'm talking about, anyway... ;=} )
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Response 7 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Mar 2, 1999 (13:23) * 4 lines
So 78s are indeed what my mother stores in the bottom of the broken victrola?
(speed control is all wonky!)
Then I have listened to them.
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Response 8 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Tue, Mar 2, 1999 (18:08) * 1 lines
yeah, alexander, i knew lps are listened to on record players. i look for stuffed steifs at flea markets rather than vinyl, but maybe i'll take a listen. what part of germany are you in? i'm from stuttgart.
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Response 9 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Mar 3, 1999 (03:32) * 4 lines
Hallo Wolf,
Ich bin aus Rhein-Main. Steiff-Tiere sind klasse, da habe ich auch so 1,2 stk, ;=}
Record players: as you are from Germany, too, you should be able to get a nice Thorens record player. Make sure, it also spins 78 rpm and ask the sales folks what needle (diamond/saphire) you'd need for 78s. Yes, for those you'd use a different needle, as they have wider grooves that modern vinyls (who have microgrooves).
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Response 10 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Mar 3, 1999 (10:11) * 5 lines
Translation of Alexander's German courtesy of Tranexp.com...
"I am outfield rhine-[Main]. stiff-animals are class, there property self also so 1,2 [stk], "
ja.
????
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Response 11 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Mar 3, 1999 (16:49) * 1 lines
and away we go...
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Response 12 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Wed, Mar 3, 1999 (17:37) * 3 lines
no worries, i got the gist of what he said. alex, i'm no longer in germany. last time i was there was about 14 years ago. still communicate with oma and opa (whom i love dearly) (for those non-german folks, oma=grandma opa=grandpa)
i haven't found steiff here in Louisiana. i picked up a cat that looked like steiff but had no button in the ear or any tags.
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Response 13 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Mar 4, 1999 (13:42) * 5 lines
Wolf, watch your step over there. German emigrants have become an endangered species statesside, I've been told.
Stacey, your trrranslatorrr thingus rrrocks!
Ok, I just told Wolf whthat I'm from the Rhein-Main area (a circle of about 60 kilometers or 40 miles around Frankfurt). He collects stuffed animals by the german manufacturer Steiff (those with a button in the ear...) - I have some of them, too.
IF you look for something nice to bring home for some kids, check them out. New ones in any toy store, old ones on toy cons/markets (much sought after!). Always a good thing to find on a fleamarket, if inexpensive (but mostly, they're overpriced). These are quality-products that may (if properly treated) serve several generations...
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Response 14 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Mar 4, 1999 (13:47) * 6 lines
Hey, what's that! Is this a Stuffed Animals collecting topic, or what!!
Wer, what 78s do your parents have?
Stacey, have I told you that there are people who think very well of Victrola as a brand? Even repair some...
Still, for playing, I prefer a nice record player that does 78 rpm with a proper needle (because wider groove that 33 and 45 rpm records!). That's much easier that steel needles and changing them after playing 2 records (shellac is so hard, that the needles get blunt - if that's the proper word).
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Response 15 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 4, 1999 (14:37) * 1 lines
not sure...I'll ask next time I talk to them...
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Response 16 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Thu, Mar 4, 1999 (17:29) * 1 lines
oh, and alex, i'm the alpha female around here *grin* (and steiff do age well even with lots of lovings)
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Response 17 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (07:17) * 8 lines
So, what does that mean for me, besides the obvious. *charming blush*
Do I now have to ask you first before replying to Stacey?
Anyway, I think you're safe, Wolf.
They only bump off the male of the species, as far as I can tell from here. Still, as in german it's "Der Wolf" for the male, and "Die Wölfin" for the female, you maybe ought to change that to She-Wolf - maybe they've hired a guest worker, who knows german, too. You never know.
My, now I get really concerned, too. Be careful. And stay out of Florida and Arizona, for good measure.
I would like to ask Stacey, what's wrong with the Victrola. May I?
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Response 18 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (15:42) * 6 lines
speed control Herr Schuth...
speed control...
it's all wound up tight and then BANG, unwinds to quickly
( STOP laughing WER!!! I'm talking bout the Victrola! )
*smile*
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Response 19 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (17:37) * 1 lines
no one has to ask me permission to speak, you had just referred to me as a "he" at no fault of your own, so i thought i'd correct the social blunder *heehee*
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Response 20 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (17:43) * 3 lines
awww... WOlfie... there you go again...
taking all the fun and social blunders outta everything.
*pout*
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Response 21 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (17:47) * 1 lines
*sorry*
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Response 22 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (17:47) * 1 lines
(i was just kidding)
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Response 23 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (17:49) * 3 lines
so was i *heehee*
how are you doing stacey?
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Response 24 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (17:50) * 3 lines
purty good...
got some groovy medicine making my owwie parts stop hurting...
actually, the collecting conference is appropriate for how I've been collecting illness lately!
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Response 25 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (17:57) * 1 lines
i think the crud is hitting all over. a lot of folks around here have come down with it. glad the meds are working for ya and hope you feel better soon!
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Response 26 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (17:58) * 2 lines
danke schon (dunno how to make a umlaut in telnet...)
how are you doing??
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Response 27 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (18:07) * 1 lines
stressed =o (work has been a bummer lately)
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Response 28 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (18:07) * 1 lines
how come??
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Response 29 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (18:10) * 1 lines
reorg'ing and i get a bulk of crud to take care of. part of the job. just stressful.
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Response 30 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (18:12) * 5 lines
what do you do to relieve stress (outta curiousity)
I'd lose it without exercise...
and screaming...
how do you make it okay so that you don't take it all and dump it on those around you?
(and I'm sorry you're having a rough time)
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Response 31 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (18:13) * 1 lines
i just deal with it and talk about it. i also use a lot of positive self-talkm (and chocolate-that helps), and prayer.
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Response 32 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 5, 1999 (18:14) * 6 lines
ummm...
positive self-talkm...
I'm gonna try that!
*grin*
*hug*
hope it gets better!
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Response 33 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, Mar 6, 1999 (14:36) * 6 lines
Oh, and there are always them silly newbies who's ears you can pull and the like, Wolf. Then they look like this Steiff bunny I got...
If you're stressed, try music NOW. (after all, this is a record collecting topic...) I'll play Ol' Man River from Show Boat right away (my original 78), and dedicate it to Wolf. And I'll chuckle to the lyrics, as I sometimes do (especially with this song).
And for Stacey, I'd like to play a song from Disney's Jungle Book. It helped one of Superstar's authors when he was ill, and he wrote this down for us all to read in his column. "I want to be like you" (not meant literally) and fish stix are what saved him. Stacey, how good is your german? Should I post it (in the Superstar topic)? Get well. You got a long trip ahead of you, you want to enjoy it. Ever been over here?
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Response 34 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 8, 1999 (14:44) * 6 lines
I LOVE that song!!!
My German isn't so good but my attitude ain't so bad...
You could post it if you like but make sure it's more of a gibberish feature than cohesive German prose...
Thanks, I will (I feel tons better now actually)
Nope, never been.
But the anticipation has been going on for years!
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Response 35 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Mar 8, 1999 (17:01) * 7 lines
Your will be done!
Please click here: http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/read/music/59
Get well, you don't want to have jetlag mixed with flu or something. Are you coming for fun or is it a business thing with tight schedule?
AND you've picked some good places. I loved Berlin all my life (especially in the 70ies, when it was very much a decaying place - quite different now). Never been to Prague yet, but whoever goes, sings it's praise. Does your family come from there? Vura sounds so czech to me...
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Response 36 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 8, 1999 (18:04) * 5 lines
Brandon is going for business... I am taggin along!
Pure vacation bliss (I hope!)
The name is Americanized Hungarian... of which I am not strangely enough...
my greatgrandfather (born in Italy of Italian descent, was adopted by a Hungarian couple and obviously given their name!!!
I have seen slides of the 'original' homestead in Italy but I doubt we will make it so far south to calabria...
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Response 37 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (09:00) * 1 lines
Ah, Italian Hungarian Style! That explains the fire!
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Response 38 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (11:43) * 1 lines
fire, eh?
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Response 39 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (12:54) * 1 lines
Well, sure. Lemme just get me ole bucket, and I'll fix that!
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Response 40 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar 12, 1999 (23:21) * 1 lines
that better be one damn big bucket...
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Response 41 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, Mar 13, 1999 (08:54) * 2 lines
Oh, Kitchen, you'd love it - it's a aprox. 15 l bucket of zinc-galvanized steel, complete with wooden handle on the handle-thing. It's doesn't melt, even if you get real close! Profeesional quality, that's what I call it!
But I just checked concerning the get-close-thing (Sunday morning) - Stacey, I won't make it. Shame on me, I'm really sorry about that. So, this spares you (and any given innocent bystanders) for this time. :=[
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Response 42 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Sat, Mar 13, 1999 (10:38) * 1 lines
and once again, the world is safe...
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Response 43 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sun, Mar 14, 1999 (03:56) * 1 lines
Oh, Wer, if you want to rub it in, please do so in http://tvnight.org/yapp-bin/restricted/read/screwed/157/All . I might not comment on this issue further in this topic.- Anyway, I keep the bucket around, you never know...
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Response 44 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (00:25) * 1 lines
that's true...around here, one never knows...
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Response 45 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (07:34) * 2 lines
Wer, what is the most-loved recording you own (any medium)?
What do you think Wolf loves the most?
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Response 46 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar 15, 1999 (22:07) * 2 lines
gotta contemplate on the first one,
and as to the second, Wolf?
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Response 47 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (09:14) * 1 lines
dunno....
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Response 48 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (09:47) * 1 lines
Please, Wolf, there must be some canned compositions that for some wicked reason you love, and that never fail to make you happy or smug or sad or laugh or cry or dance with joy or a complete fool or a wise Wolf or gives you strength when you're weak, and spend light to you when all is dark?
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Response 49 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Tue, Mar 16, 1999 (11:20) * 1 lines
well, one of my favorite songs is don henley's boys of summer. does it for me everytime. don't have it on record though.
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Response 50 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Mar 17, 1999 (06:51) * 1 lines
Wolf, what do you think Wer will name as his favorite? "Bella Napoli"?
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Response 51 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Mar 17, 1999 (23:24) * 3 lines
no...it's hard to think of a song I like better than
"On Suday" by Shoulders, although "Offerings" by them
ranks right up there...
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Response 52 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (10:33) * 1 lines
Shoulders? Not in my Discography, tell me more...
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Response 53 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 18, 1999 (23:30) * 1 lines
an Austin band...not quite sure what else to say...
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Response 54 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Apr 7, 1999 (11:19) * 1 lines
Close call never woulda happened anyway Alexander... our flight from Chicago was cancelled and we flew in the next day on American Airlines! Only 18 hours late!
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Response 55 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Apr 7, 1999 (11:20) * 3 lines
I promise I'll stay on topic now...
*grin*
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Response 56 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Apr 7, 1999 (18:26) * 1 lines
Glad to have you onboard again, Ma'm. Bought any records lately, perhapy ever-delicious vinyl or tasty shellac?
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Response 57 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Apr 7, 1999 (18:49) * 2 lines
not in the last ten (or 15!) years...
I was a big cassette and 8-track girl!
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Response 58 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (13:05) * 1 lines
OOOooooooooh! Tell us all about it! I've seen only two 8tracks machines in my life... Do you still have them? What recordings did you love the most?
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Response 59 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (13:47) * 2 lines
i killed a couple Eagles 8-tacks (overplaying of course) and I still have all my Queen ones... Olivia Newton John... Alabama...
(man this is embarassing!)
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Response 60 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (13:49) * 1 lines
Any RARE stuff, something not a household name?
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Response 61 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr 8, 1999 (14:52) * 1 lines
nope
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Response 62 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (22:51) * 3 lines
I know it doesn't really go here, but...
http://www.vintagesynth.com/
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Response 63 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Apr 21, 1999 (03:18) * 3 lines
Thank you for this link! Please post it also in Music (MIDI topic perhaps? Or new one: Vintage Equipment) and maybe in Dead Media.
This site is great - full of information on legendary synthesizers, discussion forum (Interface), technical tips, etc. Unfortunately, the Classifieds section doesn't seem to work yet.
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Response 64 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Apr 21, 1999 (03:22) * 1 lines
Excuse me. The Classifieds work, just opens a new browser window, and I didn't see it. Looks great - if you ever need something, like e.g. a drum machine, this is the place to look!
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Response 65 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, Apr 30, 1999 (06:06) * 4 lines
Hey, y'all! THIS IS GREAT!
Got a parcel today, from a musician + buddy who writes for superstar. He's just been to the States (where - besides his own professional interests - he did an interview for us...), and when he came back, he sent me this parcel!
You won't believe this! A BIG stack of 78s, actually perhaps like 6 pounds. A note: "Something I picked up in the States for you"...
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Response 66 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Apr 30, 1999 (09:43) * 1 lines
how kind of him!! i bet you're on cloud nine (ok, maybe cloud 78!!)
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Response 67 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sat, May 1, 1999 (03:44) * 1 lines
Yeah, and spi nn iii nnn ''' ! !! ! !
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Response 68 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sun, May 9, 1999 (12:11) * 3 lines
Serious Drama: What if you split up and have to divide the records and CDs between your ex-partner-to-be and yourself?
How to handle that? Ever seen this happen? Or had to live through this yourself?
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Response 69 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, May 10, 1999 (01:12) * 1 lines
not yet...
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Response 70 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, May 10, 1999 (11:21) * 1 lines
is that foreboding or just keeping your options open?!
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Response 71 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, May 10, 1999 (12:11) * 3 lines
good question!
I dunno...
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Response 72 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (12:36) * 3 lines
Well, seems nobody here ever divorced... (or maybe didn't have a record collection?)! How exceptional - but some of you must have split up with somebody in the past, and had to suffer worse because of that special CD or the beloved LP? Come on, tell us your grief!
(Meanwhile, the hardcore collectors will like this link: http://www.shellac.org/ and especially "Toasting a CD" at http://www.shellac.org/slumber/stech01.html , just what I want to start when I got the gear together...)
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Response 73 of 126: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 5, 1999 (08:46) * 1 lines
I hate it when that happens! Why do people have to take one's favourite cd's when they don't like you anymore??
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Response 74 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Aug 5, 1999 (10:53) * 1 lines
...okeh, I listen - what happened? And what CDs?
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Response 75 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 6, 1999 (00:45) * 1 lines
Alexander, are you fond enough of Classical Music to be interested in my fairly large and old collection of LP's No cost. Just need to figure out how to get them from Hawaii to Germany.
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Response 76 of 126: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Aug 6, 1999 (06:29) * 8 lines
I like classical music . . . but don't have an LP player. Do alot of people still keep them?
ha-ha, No! Nothing serious there, Alexander! Just a guy I was supposed to marry (convention thing more or less); he seemed decent enough to begin with, but then he turned out to be REALLY needy, and I decided to flee the country instead. But the break-off had to be faced, and the best way he could think of in paying me back for the hurt ego was by refusing to return some cd's I once lent him. Can't even remember which ones, but if he thought THAT was the best revenge, he was so damned right!!! I cri
d myself to sleep over those cd's!
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Response 77 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, Aug 6, 1999 (14:57) * 1 lines
Well, see if you remember and tell us!
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Response 78 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Aug 6, 1999 (15:25) * 1 lines
How many records, Marcia?
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Response 79 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 6, 1999 (15:32) * 1 lines
lots...while I was in California the house-ape moved or tried to move them and put them elsewhere. The entire cabinet fell apart. They occupied a space about 4 feet in length (1.2M)standing on edge. HAve some old 78's too from the lower Manhattan record district which got the money I did not spend of second hand books.
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Response 80 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Sat, Aug 7, 1999 (21:25) * 1 lines
i've got some lps too and don't have a player. ree, they still sell phonographs and some stereo systems come with them.
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Response 81 of 126: Autumn (autumn) * Sun, Aug 8, 1999 (23:00) * 1 lines
I have a turntable but seldom use it. My girlfriend has one (a Nutone) that folds into her kitchen wall. How 70's!
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Response 82 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (04:17) * 15 lines
Wow! I'd love to have THAT kitchen appliance!
Riette, nice record players are e.g. Thorens (a swiss maker?) or Technics (what the DJs use... No 78 rpm...). Ofter, Hi-Fi- studios have used drives in good condition to offer... (that's where the nice Marantz amp I use is from... 60ies or early 70ies model).
Marcia, I hope the 78s did not break... Shellac is much more brittle than vinyl, as the proprietor of a second hand records stand of the fleamarket had to discover, when I asked him how much he wanted for a 78 by Bill Haley; made in Germany, though. The guy said 50 marks, and I pointed out to him that inside that plastic sleeve were shards you could puzzle with, but no record... I gave him 5 marks (like USD 3), because I wanted to have at least the label.
78s are to me audible ethnology into the world of our parents and great parents, archeological searches into styles and artists long forgotten. And it can be very romantic, too... Much music from that time has never been rereleased on vinyl (LP and 7''), much less on CD (though there are occasionally projects dragging such treasures together and reissuing them...).
Even many great LPs were never reissued on CD - and people who have no record players are completely cut off from even having a chance to hear that stuff. Their favorite children's stories, the family's christmas record, what one's parents loved (Dances! Parties! Romance!).
Thanks, music industry, for creating new products and new markets every few decades! Thanks for already planning the next big thing after the next big thing after the CD, DVD! Thanks for forcing serious hardware costs down our wallets every ten years - yes, the pace picks up!-, and thanks for letting so much of our cultural heritage go to waste and be forgotten...
But then, perhaps it's fortunate for people like me - some of the nicest records I find right now come from people who sell cheaply or give away ALL THEIR VINYL RECORDS, because they don't have a player... Or from people who sell stuff of some deceased grandparent...
Some treasure I hunted up lately - all early Stereo recordings (1958-1960): 2 LPs by Martin Denny (exotica, jungle sounds - weird stereo stuff tiki style), Julie London, Senor Tito Rodriguez (Cuban Big Band!), "Big Hits by Prado" - Mambo and other Latin goods (released in RCA Victor's "Living Stereo"-Series, which is much sought after by audiophiles...), "Li'l Abner" - the movie songs,...
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Response 83 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (04:44) * 1 lines
Marcia, just saw post 75. Hold on to that. I'm not much into classical music, but perhaps somebody else is... How 'bout your son, whenever he gets settled?
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Response 84 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (11:26) * 3 lines
BTW, it's a shame people don't part as easy from their Super-8 (or Normal 8) movies as from their records...
I keep being amazed at seeing how many folks sell projectors and cameras at fleamarkets, but the films they did? Or some bought movies or cartoons? Tough luck!
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Response 85 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (11:59) * 1 lines
Alexander, I think most of the 8 and Super 8 and even the 16mm film which my Dad used to document our family are in the family archives awaiting processing onto video tape. It is family history, after all, and may be the only pictures they have of elderly relatives, now long gone. Don't think son is into music at all. He has short wave and multiple scanners as does his mother for aural input.
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Response 86 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (12:41) * 6 lines
Yes, I see about this "converting to" side, but most people back down from it. I have over 40 reels Super 8, each about 20-30 minutes - that's ONLY the family movies! About 24 h materiel, and copying is something like (one price quoted to me last summer) DM 3 (approx USD 1.80) PER MINUTE!
I'm happy to play any films for other people - after all, I have 16mm, Normal 8 and Super 8-facilities. But there are many movies people bought - SciFi, Monster or Western stuff, all from way before VCRs. And these wares hardly ever show up.
BTW, my friends love watching the old family-stuff, which really astonished me. Pick some nice music to match (Hammond-organ records are great!), and open a window to the past... Cars, hair-dos, clothes, buildings, cities - all looked so different!
Perhaps I should do a Monster-HomeMovie-Marathon - show all films nonstop, and have some DJs do fitting music, stuff from those years... Haven't I been in a nice cinema lately, where the owner asked me about some cooperation ideas?
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Response 87 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 9, 1999 (13:09) * 2 lines
Yes, Alexandeer...have Terry run them on SpringCam and watch the hits soar as word gets around. It just might be the only chance we get to see what Alexander auf Hessen really looks like! I'd watch!!! I know of only one family who did conversions. One of the group paid to have it done, the rest made copies and shared the overall cost. We have hundreds of 16 mm spliced onto big reels. We even have the Hindenburg burning and the Coronation of George VI and Streamboat Willie, plus inumerable Betty Boop
nd Popeye reels.
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Response 88 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (08:51) * 3 lines
OOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!
But Dad didn't film that himself, did he? Let's move this discussion into the Film topic here in Collecting, ok?
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Response 89 of 126: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (12:26) * 1 lines
Sure!
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Response 90 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (13:24) * 1 lines
...to be continued in film....
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Response 91 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (05:18) * 1 lines
Bought some strange mix - Junior Guitar Watson, Barry White (early 70ies, when he WAS brilliant - as I only now find out!), Dean Martin, Elvis P.-Christmas album, singles by Malcom McLaren (Bufalo Gals), Amanda Lear (some Munich-disco stuff... 'twas the cover I need for an article...).
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Response 92 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (15:21) * 1 lines
...more Barry White (actually, one was a "Love Unlimited"-lp). Some nice funk singles from the Atlantic label. Some obscure spanish singles...
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Response 93 of 126: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Aug 25, 1999 (16:09) * 4 lines
i love Bary White...
baby.. baby... baby...
seems amusing to me that it took a prime time tv show to make him popular again...
(how's the mag coming?)
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Response 94 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (16:57) * 7 lines
(hard work, but ok, thank you! we worked on the cover today... sellin' ads - gotta sell more -, edit stuff, keep people happy...)
And all day I hum "I'm under the influence of love and I know that I can't live without it..."
Gotta hafta do with this wedding I attended two weeks ago...
(Guess that goes to show this here COUNTRY BOY - THE EDITOR FROM HELL has a mortal soul after all...)
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Response 95 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (17:14) * 1 lines
*smile* We knew it all along!
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Response 96 of 126: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (13:07) * 1 lines
OH!
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Response 97 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (15:56) * 1 lines
(Just a mortal one, don't be scared, it's nothing indecent. It'll even pass away once I embraced decay decisively!)
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Response 98 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (18:58) * 2 lines
Please do not plan to do that for a very long time. We need you...or, at
least, I do! *hugs*
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Response 99 of 126: Riette Walton (riette) * Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (03:23) * 1 lines
Nothing indecent? Darn it!
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Response 100 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 28, 1999 (13:47) * 1 lines
Ree, we can always hope. Soon, this magazine will be put to bed and his creative mind will be able to think of other things. (Pulling out my blanket and snacks) Have some cheese and fruit while I cut the baguette...!
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Response 101 of 126: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (00:57) * 1 lines
Imagining what those things may be might be a stretch though ...
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Response 102 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (01:24) * 1 lines
It might even be scary...or the hoped-for indecent?!
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Response 103 of 126: Alexander Schuth (aschuth) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (06:54) * 4 lines
Bet it'll involve fleamarkets, more records and Super-8-films... all of which will have to keep waiting for me a few weeks longer than planned.
# 14 is postponed for two weeks.
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Response 104 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (11:12) * 1 lines
We're prolonging the agony, are we? Sounds like birthing anything. False labot and all. Reward yourself when it is all put to bed properly...anything taking this much of Alexander deserves that.
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Response 105 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (11:13) * 1 lines
That should read 'labor'... and I am sure there is nothing false about it!
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Response 106 of 126: Isabel (Isabel) * Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (11:25) * 1 lines
Hi! Anybody have an idea were to get record collector prices on the web? Got some old records and wonder what it might be worth. I don't want to sell it, just want to know if I have to talk with my insurance company...(haha) I sometimes wonder if that old stuff could really be worth loads of money?
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Response 107 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (13:00) * 1 lines
check ebay and see how much they're going for there. alex? you're the record man, what do you think?
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Response 108 of 126: Isabel (Isabel) * Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (16:26) * 1 lines
But if I go to an auction place, I have to tell them my name, no? And I really don't want to sell my things, but I'm nosy if I got some treasures between my rubbish...
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Response 109 of 126: Alexander (aschuth) * Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (17:10) * 3 lines
Perhaps some of your items are already listed there... Maybe even in like condition, so you could see what other folks ask for them.
Besides Ebay, there is ricardo.de in Germany and www.andsold.de , I think. But there should be more specific record collector's resources, like record traders specialized in second hand and special recordings who offer their wares on the web.
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Response 110 of 126: Wolf (wolf) * Mon, Oct 11, 1999 (18:29) * 1 lines
we can do some searching for you, isabel, i'm already registered at ebay, so i can go there for you. let me know what you have and i'll get to work on it!
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Response 111 of 126: Alexander (aschuth) * Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (02:57) * 4 lines
A german record collector's site: http://www.sammler.com lists dates for collectors conventions, shows the grading system and offers the chance to post questions (hey, some folks even offer 78s!). It's regularly updated - doesn't look too fancy, but well maintained.
Their page http://www.sammler.com/sp/sp_links.htm shows links to online-record trading markets, a bootleg shop, etc.
Enjoy!
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Response 112 of 126: Alexander (aschuth) * Tue, Oct 12, 1999 (03:06) * 3 lines
Find records on offer at http://www.music-market.de/ , where you could also advertise (if you wanted to sell something).
And if you'd want a printed catalog to browse, check http://www.motor-presse-stuttgart.de/mps/mgz/mgz.asp - there's one for Rock&Pop LPs and one for Rock&Pop singles. Something for classic and jazz, too (wonder if my jazz 78s are in there - e.g. my two Mezz Mezzrows...).
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Response 113 of 126: Isabel (Isabel) * Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (07:57) * 2 lines
°sigh° Ehem, thank you! Those web-sites look interesting and maybe I would find what I'm searching if they weren't so difficult to survey...
I bought the first Bob Dylan LP in mint condition and the dealer said that it's worth a lot and now I wanted to know if this might be true or not...
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Response 114 of 126: Alexander (aschuth) * Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (12:09) * 3 lines
Check out http://www.jerryosborne.com/ - they have a price guide for American records for $26, perhaps available via Amazon, too.
And! You can sell and buy collectibles there, And! they appraise your records for ONLY US$ 3,- per item! All chargeable via plastic money.
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Response 115 of 126: Isabel (Isabel) * Tue, Oct 19, 1999 (11:39) * 1 lines
Looked up some book on vinyl collector prices lately, it said that's its not much worth - about 25 english pounds....Hoped it was more...
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Response 116 of 126: Annette Mercer (Laughingsky) * Wed, Mar 8, 2000 (09:21) * 1 lines
Old LPs?? Alexander, which ones are you looking for? Old Motown? Old rock? Classical? My other half used to do flea markets, and, Holy Moly, Batman! There's a million of them out in the garage!! He's debating on selling some on eBay, having a garage sell, doing another flea market, etc. I have found so many LPs that I had forgotten about, well, I started having flashbacks! LOL!
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Response 117 of 126: Alexander (aschuth) * Wed, Mar 8, 2000 (15:16) * 6 lines
Next step: Play 'em! Go and check which you still can bear, and which are just to far behind.
Right now, there's lots of soul in this household. Some Barry White, much Curtis Mayfield. Besides that, I listen to the monks a lot right now (see the monks-topic, and check out their website; they are the REAL thing!).
I like many things in music, on LPs, 10'', 7'' and 78s.
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Response 118 of 126: Annette Mercer (Laughingsky) * Mon, Mar 13, 2000 (09:15) * 1 lines
I have definitely been listening to many of them. I haven't even broken the "iceberg", yet! I have given strict instructions on which ones are keepers, though...there's quite a huge pile of those tucked away in the corner!
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Response 119 of 126: Alexander (aschuth) * Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (04:46) * 9 lines
Hmh, I wonder if we could use a topic on Hi-Fi gear, or maybe a whole AudioPhiles Conference, like e.g. the Radio one. That's different from the Music Conf - as this guy once said to me "Now you got the software, lemme get you fixed onto the hardware, too!"
There's not a lot serious audio geeks want to talk about more than their high end amps 'n' stuff.
Comments, please.
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Response 120 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (12:08) * 1 lines
Just did...Aloha, Alexander!
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Response 121 of 126: Maggie (sociolingo) * Tue, Apr 4, 2000 (07:54) * 1 lines
I did some work for a guy once and he paid me in antique records - caruso and stuff. I really regret now that I gave them away when we sold everything up.
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Response 122 of 126: Alexander (aschuth) * Tue, Apr 4, 2000 (14:48) * 14 lines
Caruso - he was the first highbrow artist to record. See, until that moment (and for quite some time after that) "serious" artists and ensembles would not record, or if, then only pseudonymous, because they were very much aware of the low quality in reproduction if compared to life performance.
They thought they would tarnish their reputations if they allowed less than satifying reproduction of their work. Also, they were worried that their market value as performers would drop if their work were readily available on media.
Caruso did away with that. If the result was only half as good as live, but if he reached much more listeners and made them happy - molto bene! And so he became the first international recording superstar, creating access for record labels to top-notch artists, and helping artists to become more widely known - even in places where they'd never perform live.
When I started collecting 78s, I bought three boxes with about 30 records each, plus an approx. 20 records Linguaphon English language course ("The Englishman is very found of smoking tobacco." "The doctor is a great friend of humanity."). One record in the boxes was Caruso. Nice thang.
And then there were wax cylinders, too (well, I don't have any yet) - did I ever post this link: http://www.tinfoil.com/ ? Y'all check it out, that's really neat - and you can listen to some wax cylinder recordings.
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Response 123 of 126: Alexander (aschuth) * Tue, Apr 4, 2000 (14:57) * 3 lines
And there is also Tim Gracyk's place: http://www.garlic.com/~tgracyk/
This is more for early 78 (or shellacs) fans. Very good articles on media history, technology, restauration of gramophones, etc.
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Response 124 of 126: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 4, 2000 (15:12) * 1 lines
Thanks for Tim's link. My ersatz son-in-law collects old gramophones. I will forward it to him. Oh, and I have no idea what happened to my dad's collection of wax cylinders, but there were a lot of them and I recall the peculiar sound of them...far better than nothing, but nothing compared with what is available today. He later bought a Scully Lathe and recorded us all for posterity on shellac. Wonder where those are, as well...*sigh*
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Response 125 of 126: Maggie (sociolingo) * Wed, Apr 5, 2000 (04:13) * 5 lines
We always had loads of 78s when I was growing up. We had our own wind up gramaphone with a big horn. don't know what happened to it. My favourite was 'in a monastery garden'. It was a tiny little record. I have a box of records in the loft, I wonder if I kept that?
I had a Gallicurchi record too (well, that's how its said, but the spelling doesn't look right). She was a fantastic soprano around the same time as Caruso I think. I always wanted a Kathleen Ferrier recording (later I know). Her 'blow the wind southerly' still gets me every time.
I hate giving things away - but we're into that again now and it hurts.
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Response 126 of 126: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Oct 3, 2004 (17:04) * 16 lines
The Austin Record Convention is the largest sale of recorded music in the USA. There is more music and related emorabilia availible here, at one time, than anywhere else. Ranging from the 78's of the 1930s to the latest compact discs of today, over one million 78s, 45s, LPs, CDs, cassettes, posters and collectibles (probably even a few 8-track tapes!) are in the auditorium. Over 300 different dealers from all over the USA and Europe are spread out over 30,000 square feet of floor space. The show is so big that to see everything takes most of the weekend, so if you're in a hurry we have search announcements at 12, 2, and 4 o'clock from the concession area to help in locating specific items.
The show brings together collectors and dealers from all over the world for a weekend of activity in Austin. The event started in 1981 and has been held twice a year, in the spring and fall, ever since. It has grown steadily over the years and now uses all available floor space in the auditorium. The location in Austin, "Live Music Capital of the World", is a beautiful city that is great fun to visit has aided in the popularity of the event. If you attend the show be sure to save some energy for an evening visit to any of the many clubs around town and check out the live music scene for which Austin is world famous.
A Show Directory is printed and given away at the event. It lists each dealer attending the show, where they are from, a map with their location in the building and a brief description of their speciality. Larger ad space is availible in the Directory, anyone interested in ads please contact Discoveries magazine for space and rate information. The show directory is also inserted in each issue of Discoveries magazine that comes out the month of the show.
If you have records to sell and you can't come to the show, please contact us. (email: doug@austinrecords.com )
Customer Hours: 10am-6pm Saturday and Sunday
Admission is $4 and is good for both days.
Early shopper admission is $25
(good for all three days-Friday, Saturday, and Sunday) and starts at 10:00 AM Friday, 7:00 AM Saturday and 8:30 AM Sunday.
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