Topic 23 of 55: Eroticism in Art
Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (10:53) |
Riette Walton (riette)
Which paintings do you find most erotic?
61 responses total.
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Response 1 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (23:53) * 1 lines
We can start with the aforementioned Persephone.
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Response 2 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (01:12) * 1 lines
My thoughts exactly.
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Response 3 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (12:15) * 3 lines
Given the information on the Greek myth, how do you view this painting
now? Is it erotic in a sense? What other examples come to your mind,
Riette.
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Response 4 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (13:19) * 4 lines
Could you post the picture again here, so people will know what we're talking about, please Terry? Also I need to be able to look at it while making comments - I have it in my memory, but I find that it is often the small things that one doesn't see straight away in a painting, that give the best clues to the interpretation.
A painting that I find erotic and very moving, is Hero and Leander (painted in 1849) by William Etty. It is based on a myth in which Leander would swim across a stretch of sea to meet his lover Hero, a priestess of Aphrodite. She would guide him by holding up a lighted torch. One night, during a storm, Leander drowned. The grief-stricken Hero threw herself from a tower. In the painting the two dead lovers are shown in their tragic, final embrace. Do you have a photo to post? Again, I can post you
ine to put in if you like.
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Response 5 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (16:46) * 4 lines
OK, you asked to have the Persephone painting by Benton, so here it is
again in all it's glory, rich with mythology.
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Response 6 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (10:23) * 4 lines
Yes, I do find the painting both erotic and exciting, Terry. The way Hades creeps up on Persephone is scary, but also exciting - he knows he should not be there, but that is the most erotic part: his obvious, almost akward desire - we all know that he is going to get her, but he doesn't look as if he knows. The thing that 'bothered' me (in a very pleasant way) about this painting is that Persephone herself doesn't look completely unaware of Hades behind the tree. She is not quite as innocent as one mi
ht think at first glance. Lying there, pretending to be asleep in that inviting position, naked, she is defenitely waiting for SOMEONE. The beautiful flowers which she came to pick lie in her basket, quite forgotten. She has very different things on her mind - she is thoroughly enjoying this abduction! So in a slightly narrowed context, I think this is about desire, and desiring what we can't/musn't have. But desiring nevertheless.
In a broader context, this painting could also be a symbol of seasons, I think. I read up on the myth, and it seems to me that the 'underworld' is a symbol for winter. It says that every time Persephone returned from the underworld, she brought spring with her, and when she went back to Hades all the flowers and other plants withered. Which means that she comes from winter (and which makes Hades the god/king of winter) to bring spring, and when she goes, autumn and finally winter set in again.
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Response 7 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (10:51) * 7 lines
Here is a favourite of mine:
THE BATH
Alfred Stevens
1867
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Response 8 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (10:56) * 1 lines
Sorry, it's not working. Terry, how can one know whether an image is going to work or not? I tested this one in the tester topic as well just now, but it didn't work. Is it simply to big to post? And with those big pictures, is there any way one can get them smaller? because it's no fun if there are just a bunch of black blocks all over the topics.
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Response 9 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (11:23) * 1 lines
Enclose the url in QUOTES. And it will work.
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Response 10 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (12:55) * 7 lines
Okay, so here goes:
THE BATH
Alfred Stevens
1867
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Response 11 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (12:55) * 1 lines
Damn it!
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Response 12 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (14:03) * 1 lines
That's a url not an image.
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Response 13 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (03:40) * 1 lines
I did click on the image!!!
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Response 14 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (13:36) * 9 lines
Well, I'm afraid 'The Bath' can't be posted.
But here is something else:
Paul Gaughin
'Spirit of the Dead Watching'
Okay, I know it's got a bit of a sinister undercurrent, but I find almost all his paintings of Polynesian women very erotic. The colours are so warm and intense, and its almost as if he transforms them into goddess figures - obeying only the rules of his imagination..
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Response 15 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (17:49) * 3 lines
why can't you post the bath? is it too revealing or something? this one leaves
a sense of creepiness as well as eroticism. who hasn't wondered if the dead
watch us....
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Response 16 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (01:38) * 1 lines
The bath is a stunning painting, and NOTHING's too revealing, but the silly bugger who posted it into the web did not do it in a way that one can post it - tested it several times. But I'll scan my own picture of it through to Wer, so in time we will have it here. And in a version where one can see all of it at once.
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Response 17 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (06:18) * 9 lines
And if this isn't erotic, I don't know what is...
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres
'Turkish Bath'
1862
1,10m x 1,10m
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Response 18 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (07:59) * 1 lines
What's the url of the website ? (senses a challenge).
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Response 19 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (09:38) * 1 lines
The full painting is at http://www.sappho.com/lart/ingres.htm, and if you click on the image, you get this detailed view of part of it.
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Response 20 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (22:27) * 1 lines
i think it depicts the closeness of women. is this a bath or a harem?
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Response 21 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Tue, Aug 18, 1998 (22:29) * 2 lines
i went to the site and it's definately a bath. i believe bath for them and bath
for us is two different things. isn't a bath a place to relax, kinda like a spa?
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Response 22 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (01:22) * 1 lines
Yes, exactly. I love the way they're gossiping away, probably complaining and laughing about husbands and children. It's as if someone was peeping through a little hole in the floor, and saw them when they were in an utterly natural state of being. It's great.
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Response 23 of 61: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Wed, Aug 19, 1998 (14:32) * 1 lines
I wonder what our society would be like if we were that uninhibited today?
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Response 24 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (11:46) * 2 lines
In Germany they are taking great pains to become that uninhibited again. There is a big trend to do things naked - sports, shopping, socializing, eating out. But it's too forced, and there's nothing innocent about it - it just looks totally silly. Especially on people who do parachuting...
I think we know to much - therefore we will never be uninihibited again.
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Response 25 of 61: Gi (patas) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (17:48) * 1 lines
Apparently Muslim women, who in some countries are still secluded and protected from male eyes, feel alright taking their bath together naked - just the women and children though.
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Response 26 of 61: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (18:34) * 1 lines
Ah, a modern-day example! I guess the Western world has gone too far in other directions.
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Response 27 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (21:50) * 2 lines
well nowadays if you bathe with other women you're either lesbian, participating
in a team sport, or a jail resident!
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Response 28 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (02:16) * 1 lines
ha-ha!!!
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Response 29 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (09:38) * 1 lines
Or, at one of Jim O'Briens potlucks taking a sauna.
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Response 30 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (13:09) * 3 lines
ha-ha!!!
Here in Switzerland they have only mixed saunas, so I never go. I could never sit there naked, sweating my ar$e off with a bunch of guys.
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Response 31 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (18:21) * 2 lines
well to me a lot of women that would go to saunas over here are all stuck up
and superficial. i would feel like my flabby self was being judged.
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Response 32 of 61: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (14:15) * 1 lines
Only ever been in the hotel ones, with my family.
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Response 33 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (19:21) * 1 lines
i just flat out don't go in the saunas or jacuzzi's -- even the one in the gym!
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Response 34 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (01:12) * 2 lines
Wolf, I NEVER used to wear a bikini, even before I became a mother, because I have one of those made-and-left bodies. Beautifully made, just not arranged properly. Twice in my life, I've had a guy and two midwives stare so deep up my backside they could probably see out my nostrils at the other end, and they didn't scream nearly as loud as I did. And so I figure: I don't care about what people think of the way I speak - why the he££ should I care anymore about the way I look to them? I'm married, I
don't have to catch some guy, I don't have to show off, because some of those pretty pretty gals around me will sleep alone tonight, fancy legs or not. And me, badly arranged as I am - I'll have someone to sleep AND bump pelvisses with tonight. So I just refuse to be self-conscious.
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Response 35 of 61: Gi (patas) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (04:22) * 1 lines
God, Autumn, do you think that being aware of one's body and trying to get it into better shape is only a single person's concern? Putting aside all the exaggerations of our century, I believe one tries to look good for oneself primarily, but one's partner's good opinion is also to be desired.
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Response 36 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (06:55) * 5 lines
Speaking of which: here's something by an artist who didn't mind HOW badly he arranged female body parts on paper or canvas...
This drawing is supposedly an unknown masterpiece by Picasso.
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Response 37 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (11:20) * 8 lines
i wear a bikini in my backyard! and i, too, know the feeling of being examined
like a holstein cow in the throes of terrible calving labor. my husband doesn't
care about the road map stretchmarks i've acquired as a result of birthing two
big babies. he just wants me to be happy with my body and to feel good about
myself. so to all of us not-so-perfect gals, *hugs* who'd want a cookie cutter
model off of vogue anyway? (ok, besides wer).....i go to the gym for myself but
am not comfortable in any speedo type apparatus (who wants to keep pulling the
thong outta their arse anyway)!!
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Response 38 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (15:17) * 3 lines
°curling up with laughter!!!!°
I've never seen the inside of a gym, so I can only imagine what this piece of apparatus must look like!! That's so unbearable funny!
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Response 39 of 61: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (22:04) * 3 lines
Gi: God, Autumn, do you think that being aware of one's body and trying to get it into better shape is only a single person's concern?
Me: What in the heck are you talking about???
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Response 40 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (01:48) * 1 lines
The weather?
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Response 41 of 61: superficial and shallow (KitchenManager) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (23:13) * 1 lines
and what's that you were saying, Wolf?
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Response 42 of 61: 
Francois Boucher'Visit of Venus to Vulcan'1754I find this a wonderful painting, and really quite erotic for tits time.Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (15:18) * 7 lines
François Boucher
'Visit of Venus to Vulcan'
1754
I find this painting absolutely gorgeous and pretty erotic too. I'd luv for Boucher's Vulcan to be my blacksmith!
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Response 43 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (15:19) * 1 lines
Holy $hit, how the hell did I manage that, Terry?!?!?!
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Response 44 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (16:51) * 4 lines
You can tell Vulcan is getting off by this impromptu visitor. Smooching
her tit and all!
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Response 45 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (18:16) * 1 lines
well, she is touching his, anyway. i like this one....
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Response 46 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (00:49) * 4 lines
Smooching her tit?!?!
You've got me hysterical at 7:49 in the morning - you sure know the language of art!! HA-HAAAAAAA!!!! $hit, now I can't stop!!
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Response 47 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (17:06) * 2 lines
Ah yes, the language of art just comes naturally when you're edgy and cool.
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Response 48 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (01:34) * 1 lines
OOH, Terry, you're just turning into such a stud nowadays!
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Response 49 of 61: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (15:53) * 1 lines
I think he's just looking up at her and her breast is juxtaposed behind his face.
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Response 50 of 61: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (16:39) * 2 lines
OK spoil our fun.
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Response 51 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (01:21) * 1 lines
Poor Terry - so much for your tit smooching theory.
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Response 52 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (12:50) * 7 lines
BUT to cheer you up:
Frédéric Bazille
'La Toilette'
1870
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Response 53 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (12:50) * 1 lines
ha-ha!!!! That didn't exactly work, did it??!?! I'll try again!
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Response 54 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (12:53) * 5 lines
Frédéric Bazille
'La Toilette'
1870
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Response 55 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (12:55) * 7 lines
Damn - sorry.
Frédéric Bazille
'La Toilette'
1870
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Response 56 of 61: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Thu, Sep 3, 1998 (22:42) * 1 lines
Can you even imagine someone dressing you every day? My kids won't even let me put their shoes on them.
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Response 57 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Sep 4, 1998 (01:09) * 1 lines
I would LOVE to be dressed by somebody else every day! I hate getting dressed!
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Response 58 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Sat, Sep 5, 1998 (09:45) * 2 lines
i like the idea, but the actuality? can you imagine? i guess i'm to shy to let
someone else dress me (and too independent)
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Response 59 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (02:17) * 1 lines
True. I could make my sister dress me though! I'll put some cellotape over her gob so she won't make silly remarks!
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Response 60 of 61: Wolf (wolf) * Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (12:10) * 2 lines
i suppose i could get my husband to dress me but i don't think i'd ever get
anything on!
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Response 61 of 61: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Sep 6, 1998 (14:26) * 1 lines
ha-ha! Quite!
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